Support for dropping the nap part 12

[MasynSpencerElliotte]

Omg we are about 15 min away from E's first 12 hr night in forever. And she sttn without even a peep! Her internal clock is set for an 8 pm bedtime, has been since birth, so even on nnd's she will not go to bed any sooner...but if she sleeps until 8 that is fine too (well except on daycare days she has to get up by 7:40 or so, but I literally dress her and run out the door!).

[LovelyLilyandJack]

Yay!  Sounds like your LOs are doing well, Tink & Heidi   J had an almost 12 hour night last week - that was his longest ever too!

We've reverted to naps slightly as we've been away and J always EWs away from home, so we eventually let him nap on the third day on our way home.  Got another EW at home to thank for it so today we're back to no nap.  Hopefully we'll get back on track soon.  This boy is phenomenal - he's had a 13.5 hour day today at nursery, and was so perky at bedtime we were questioning whether nursery let him nap and forgot to tell us!  He'd better sleep well tonight....

[MasynSpencerElliotte]

Did a 30 min nap today...we are still stuck indoors and we needed a break from her! She must have needed it though because she only resisted for a minute to get her diaper and sleep sack on.

[Skadiver13]

Hi all, it's been a while since I posted here . My job (school counselor) is done for the summer lucky me. BUT I think we might be running into a little 1-0 nap thing. Liam was an awful sleeper for the good first year if anyone remembers all my posts before I became a moderator for a while. BUT this is new territory. We were on a roll for a good year beyond little things here and there. Our schedule changes a bit day to day when I'm working which I know throws him off. Some days he wakes early 6am with me so I can drop him off at babysitters at 630 so I can get to work. Others DH is home so he can sleep in. But typically he was doing a 6am 1.5hr nap to 7/7:30pm. He can pull a no nap day as long as I get him to bed early and he'll pull a 12hr fnight.

BUT lately he's been doing things like only napping 45min at home still not going to bed till 8 (flaffing around at BT in his crib for 45min). Usually only getting about 11.5hrs a day now including night sleep and naps.  Or doing an 1hr50 min nap at day care and going to bed just fine? Maybe an OT/UT loop? We are going camping this weekend so can't do anything right now as he Always EW's on a trip ugh help me. But wondering when I get back how to see if he's in an OT/UT Loop or just try and work through it by cutting his naps?

[MasynSpencerElliotte]

Well that 30 min nap backfired...almost 9 pm and she is still not settling down. Ugh.

[oliversmommy]

Hello, just checking in to see how everyone is doing w/ this lovely transition. . .

I'm trying to roll with things here.  Figured out that DS needs about 11 hrs sleep in a 24 hr period, and he's been waking up around 7 am, so on NNDs he's in bed by 8 pm (and falls asleep quickly which is wonderful!).  If we are out and about in the afternoons he falls asleep in the car, so I try to keep those naps short (30 min) and push BT back to 8:30.  If we have plans and will be out later than usual, then I've let him nap longer and put him to bed later.  In the past I've been pretty strict w/ sleep routines, however I'm actually enjoying the flexibility of being able to adjust BT when needed.

He's in preschool two days/week and still naps there; those days he takes MUCH longer to fall asleep (around 9:45 pm or so).  Since it's only 2 days and it's summer and I'm not working, it's manageable, however he'll start attending 5 days/week in August when I go back to work, so I'm planning to request that they cap his naps to 30 min then. 

So a couple of questions - any chance he'll just stop napping on his own (in the car and at preschool)?  We've been going through this transition for 10 mos now (since his 3rd birthday) so I'm afraid we'll have to force NNDs to get him to completely drop the nap.  Not sure how I'm going to do that though - can't force him to stay awake in the car (and can't stay home in the afternoons, every afternoon) - and his preschool requires 30 min "rest time" on a cot in the dark so it's impossible to prevent the little ones from falling asleep.

Also, DS has been NWing for at least a couple of months now.  The NWs are very brief - he comes into our bedroom and we walk him back to bed and he immediately falls back asleep (he's been in a toddler bed for just over 3 mos) - anywhere from 0-3 times a night.  Developmental?  Routine?  Habit?  Any ideas? 

Would love to hear how everyone else is doing!

[rachsk8]

Can't speak for Pre-School, but my DS hasn't napped in the car in over 6 months now. Maybe if we were on a really long drive he might, although he still zones out and gets a bit sleepy and yawns in the car 99% of the time, but that is it.  Could you play music that he might sing along to or give him something exciting to play with just in the car, if you really don't want him to sleep in there?

I would hope preschool might keep him up too, if you requested it?  Or quiet time with books etc, instead of in a darkened room?

My DS also still NW's most nights, (sigh!) but it's more developmental with him I think... dreaming, afraid of dark, etc. He's 4 in October.  So not much help there, but you're not alone!  :-)

[babybarr]

I'm assuming we're ended up here soon...sigh. My boys are taking forever to go to sleep esp j but then h is waking at 5am screaming and wakes j so consequently j is exhausted and randomly falls asleep. I can't take 5am much longer. Their routine is typically 5am wake 12.30 nap capped at an hr asleep by 7 for h and 7.15 for j. I know they need an early night to try and sync them into being less ot and getting more sleep at night but dh is of the mind they'll wake earlier which despite all my explanations he doesn't wanna do it! However I'm off work now so will get up if they wake early and then hopefully he'll agree.

[TB9]

I think dd2 is almost through dropping this nap!  I have set bedtime at 7pm on no nap days, she wakes anywhere from 6:30am to 8am, so shes regulating herself it seems.  She does need a 40min nap every 7-10days or so, but at least we are headed in the right direction.  Having a full day with a 4.5yo and 2.5yo is pretty overwhelming and exhausting, but I have to admit, I LOVE the 7pm bedtime 

[lolsyb1982]

Ugh this transition is a long one... We were down to a 15/20 min nap each day which was fine as still getting an 11hr night but the past week the night has shortened to 10/10.5 so I know it needs to go completely some days now.
We just can't get many nnd as guaranteed she will fall asleep in the car or buggy. The only way to get a nnd is to either stay home (not a fan of) or literally be out and home before 11.30ish as anytime after that means she'll nod off in the car  which also really limits things.

I'm also not a fan of these new 5/5.30 am wu times 

[nona]

ugh so not looking forward to this but here am i at 1115 at night and my DD is still awake and acting like a maniac crying & not wanting to go to bed.  this is the first time we have had this happen to this extent. DH and I went out to tonight and kids had a sitter. she must have been awake when we got home and heard us talking (despite having a 2 story my house is VERY LOUD and she is now insisting on keeping the door open to her room.  so i was going the calm but firm approach and saying "time for bed" with minimal talking but her crying kept escalating. somehow my 8 year old slept thru this. i asked my DH to tell her time for bed and he just yelled at her (she does not respond to yelling it just makes her even more upset) PS i am not perfect i just rarely yell at her bc i know it doesn't work PPS not advocating yelling when it does work but YKWIM!!

i was hoping to at least make it through the summer....but we are almost there. It just was not goign to work having a 7pm bedtiem or earlier while on vacation with my 8 yo so i needed her to cont with naps even if meant later bedtime.  yesterday she came downstairs after "napping" for an hour (no sleep) and she was asleep by 730 (woke around 830). i am just concerned about her getting OT after several days of no nap? she will start school in a couple of weeks (T/TH) and she will have a short rest time (doubtful she will rest). So do you think if she is skipping nap 2-3x a week she may need a nap on the other days?

she was in a crib (with a crib tent) until mid july. she asked for a BGB and things have not been as good since the switch lol. she rarely wakes in the MOTN. it is mainly harder bedtimes and getting up MUCH earlier. our schedule this summer has been nuts with lots of vacations, etc though.

she has been HSN until recently.

what time are you putting your LOs to bed? (she is late sleeper but during the school year i'll need a 730 wake up).

ugh dreading no nap bc i can literally get nothing done with her. she is my kid that is into everything. do your kids still do quiet time in their rooms? she usually can play independently pretty well....so i would like her to have rest time and I have a (toddler) clock i can use with a timer.

[MasynSpencerElliotte]

At her age Heather I would not be really worried about ot if she does decent nights. My older two were more average sleepers and although it was an adjustment we just went cold.turkey to no nap. I totally hear you on getting nothing done, Elliotte stopped napping before summer break, so now I either have a sidekick or I do stuff in the evenings or when DH is home.

[TB9]

Yeah, my house is a mess!  Can't get much done with two spirited non-napping kiddos under 5yo hanging around the house...

[nona]

well she went to bed after 11pm and woke up at 730ish :/.  i just put her in her bed for rest time (at 2pm) and i don't really care if she sleeps and just told her she needed to rest could play with toys in her bed and look at books.  it is weird, she asks to go to bed and be tucked in, etc but then she is crying for me like 5 minutes later begging for one more rock or kiss (which im kinda mean i refuse).  i have too many things to do this afternoon and i can't with her bc she does stuff like takes out every single craft item or mixes all the games together KWIM?

im hoping once her preschool starts (T/TH) and DS is in school (next week) the schedule will work itself out.

[Mandy.kamal]

Hi ladies! I'm just reading through some posts and trying to get some tips. I think we are farther in the 1-0 than I wanted to admit and caused some UT/OT mess.

Our days have become 14 hours....yeah. And nights are 9.5/10 hours recently. Before this blip we've been 13 hour day max with 11 hour night like clockwork.

We are stuck in this 14 hour day loop and struggling to get out now that he's began EW a bit. I know it's all a process with the 1-0 but I was curious for those of you can remember the beginning of it and if you began having too long of days and how you fixed it.

Thank you! Xx