Support for dropping the nap part 12

[LovelyLilyandJack]

Jack refused his nap in the end yesterday and we got a night very similar to yours, haribo - also our best night in a week. I think jack might be further through this transition than I'd realised...

I also realised yesterday that although jack will generally take a nap, it's always after a fight during wd.  I thought that cos he'd always nap once in his cot he must need it, but now I wonder if him fighting during wd is his way of resisting the nap, and cos I've been firm then, by the time he's in his cot he's already given up fighting.  Kind of like sleep training before he's in bed...! I asked my husband if jack fights during wd on Wednesdays, after his 2 NNDs at nursery and apparently he doesn't, so maybe I need to pay more attention to the fight before the nap as a way of taking his lead on this. Otherwise he'll nap every day at home and then EW every morning, which of course means he's then more likely to nap the next day....

Anyone else had anything like that before?

[rachsk8]

Just came on to see how everyone is getting on. Hoping no news is good news??

[LovelyLilyandJack]

We're quite suddenly much further through the 1-0 since I stopped offering a nap every day. He generally does much better on NNDs, though after 2 in a row he starts getting a bit clumsy in the afternoon, so he's obviously getting tired by then.  But generally he handles it fine. 30 minutes is the max he can nap now.  In fact, we've had a few EWs from even that lately, so I suspect I should be capping to 20 minutes really.

My only issue now is that he was up being sick last night for a long time so will be tired today and I have no idea how long to let him nap. If he's been ill in the past I haven't capped, but a 4am WU tomorrow isn't going to help him recover either, and that's what we're risking with an uncapped nap....

[rachsk8]

Ugh, illness is such a difficult one isn't it? I still have this same issue, or even knowing what kind of Bt to give him when he's not well. I try to read his signs at that point... My DS definitely has higher sleep needs when sick and mostly will do a long night even with a nap when unwell... hope your little guy gets better quickly. X

[jessmum46]

Just popping in but unless *very* unwell I tended to err on the side of normal nap but with an earlier than usual bedtime if needed x

[Truly Blessed]

I used to go by how Sam was doing, if the mood is dreadful and they're really struggling I tended to allow a longer nap, but not uncapped. Then again observe in the PM and try and make a good call WRT BT. It's always a gamble Honey, but LO's do need to sleep themselves better. Good Luck.x.

[Haribo2012]

Hope LO better soon we had sickness last week and we had 20 min nap every day and EBT with a good 11 hour night and one 12 hour night which is unheard of here. Sun he napped for 1 hour and still had reasonable BT and 6.45wu so I'd go with a nap and judge the mood. x

[LovelyLilyandJack]

Thanks everyone  He's been with my husband all day and apparently fell asleep on the sofa at some point this morning and has dozed on and off til 1ish. Lily was home from 3.30 so no sleep this afternoon. At least I now know he'll just pass out if he really needs it, which is good to know 

[Haribo2012]

Bless him hope he has a good night x

[Truly Blessed]

He's been with my husband all day and apparently fell asleep on the sofa at some point this morning and has dozed on and off til 1ish.

This is great Hun, he is sleeping himself better. I hope he does the same at night, and doesn't have NW! Sending get well vibes.x.

[LovelyLilyandJack]

Thank you He's been fine all day today though didn't nap and then had a temperature at bedtime.  I'm hoping he has a good catch up tonight. I'll force a nap tomorrow, whatever happens!

[Haribo2012]

2 hour NW oh yuk I thought those were in the past! Even if I try for EBT he still stays awake till 6.45/7pm doesn't often nap at all. I asked why he woke up in the night and he said I just wanted you mummy lol!! Lovely but 2 hours of me 

[rachsk8]

So hard.    Even though I kind of think we're out the other side of the 1-0, we still get weird and unexplained things go on sometimes. I guess I need to try not to over-think it!!  We have NW's from bad dreams sometimes (last night for instance) and periods where DS's sleep needs seem to be higher or lower than 'usual' or he seems particulaly tired.  Trying to keep to a SBT, but if he does have a catch-up night I move BT out by maybe 15-20 mins, as I don't want to get into the long night/short night loop again.... Argh who knows, these kiddos are a confusing bunch!  Lucky they are cute huh?   

[Haribo2012]

Honestly think I'm getting it all wrong even cried myself this morning as feel so rubbish!! EBT doesn't seem to work earliest I've managed is 6.45 as he just won't drop off before then! Offered naps but doesn't really drop off anymore unless longish car journey, WU yesterday 5.30 and today 5 am, I laid on his floor with him waiting for sun clock at 6am for gods sake!! He will be shattered by 5pm pick up from nursery then manic happy or meltdown!! Give up!! We are off to Florida in 4 weeks so that will either right it or ruin it 
Sorry just a rant lol and yes good job they're cute and I got covered in kisses by DS x

[Truly Blessed]

Honestly think I'm getting it all wrong even cried myself this morning as feel so rubbish!!

Oh Zoe, bless you Darling. This is an incredibly hard transition for many LO's, Sam struggled really badly too, and I did hit rock bottom. I think you must bear in mind that you can only offer sleep, you can't MAKE him sleep. Please try and take a step back. You know the things you can try, just continue to try them but realise it is essentially beyond your control if they don't work, you need to this for your own self preservation. And that goes for all of you ladies. And remember when lacking sleep yourself, everything seems so much worse  .

Maybe you could take another look over this to see if there is anything you have forgotten that may help:

The 1-0 transition...Advice and Tips to help you through.

((HUGS)) for you all and your LO's.

THIS TOO SHALL PASS! x.