Support for dropping the nap part 12

[LovelyLilyandJack]

Oh good I think we're in a funny place where inevitably he does end up in the car around nap time every few days, and now it's causing problems, so hopefully if we pretty much go cold turkey to no nap now we'll get to the point where the occasional nap is ok again. We let him have over an hour in the car yesterday cos he fell asleep early in the day  (by his standards) and he's had a cold. But then we paid for it with a new of over an hour,  and then nws every hour after that So we're not doing that again!

[MasynSpencerElliotte]

We just started the 1-0 last weekend so I will join you ladies to commiserate! She had such a good night last friday that we purposely skipped her nap as we had plans and she did awesome, then she refused her nap sunday...was up in the night that night but we also have 4 canines coming and a language explosion. Have done our normal 45 min naps since but now have had two 5:00/5:30 wakes but today she won't resettle (it is 6:30 am now). I'm not sure I can handle a nnd being up since 5 am...but that is what comes back to bite us.

[Sarah - Enfys' Mum]

Hi Heidi, I was hoping I'd find you here, as I was wondering what you were doing with E's sleep these days. She seems to be similar to Medi but a few weeks earlier.
We've had a few nnd here too, mainly because we've had stuff on nap time and she is getting a bit harder to put to bed at night. Nap is one hour max now but I can see it getting shorter soon.

[TB9]

I think I'm going to have to push for more no naps days with dd2...she had a 30/35min nap yesterday and fought 1hr at bed.  Worst part is, she's not letting me leave the room    I finally just told her that I needed to get a drink of water, and asked if that was ok, she said yes so I left, she stayed calm finally...then I just didnt go back in 

I think dd1 was the same age (about 27/28months old) when we had to make the final push for dropping her nap too, no doubt dd2 will be nap free soon!

[MasynSpencerElliotte]

Hi Sarah! Yes they are quite similar aren't they? We had nnd's last wed/thu/fri - daycare staff are now not to give her a nap unless I request it or she is absolutely in need of one. We had a weekend away so she napped those days as night sleep was down to 9 hours, but otherwise I think we will do a nap every 3-4 days as needed and nights are 8pm-7am or so. Only thing is MIL has them for a lot of days in July to help ease our daycare costs and I have a feeling she will disregard my requests.

[Sarah - Enfys' Mum]

What is it about grandparents!?!  I find it very hard to tell mil what to do - we couldn't manage without her help and I don't want to rock the boat

[MasynSpencerElliotte]

Oh I have no trouble telling her...she just thinks she knows better I think (and really, most people look at me sideways when I tell them my 22 month old doesn't need a nap anymore). I think someone at daycare goofed and gave her a nap monday, but not tuesday and she has now hit 11 hrs overnight sleep with one brief cry out at 6 am (when DH gets up so she seems to wake then!). MIL has her today so fx she listens as she seems to think she will have quiet time in bed and not fall asleep.

[TB9]

DD had 2 no nap days in a row.  They went pretty, besides the obvious grumpiness by the end ofthe day.  She was tired enough that I could put her in bed for bedtime, and she would try to get me to stay in her room, but really couldnt put up much of a fuss about it.

She has the rest of her bottom molar cutting through though,  was in painmost of the night   so I'm going to have to give her a nap today.

Does anyones LO do a 12hr no nap day?  Most of dds no nap days tend to be 12hrs long, and then she will sleep right through for a 12hr night (when she isnt cutting teeth that is  )

[LovelyLilyandJack]

We generally do  / have always done 12.5 - 13hr NNDs as J won't sleep more than 11 hours at night.  We probably kept the nap longer than he would have otherwise needed to compensate.  Now we're fully on no naps, our days are around 12.5 hours with 11.5 hours at night on average, except for last night which was our first 12hr night!  Hooray!  He's still doing 11hrs a few times a week as well though 

[MasynSpencerElliotte]

We do 13 hr nnd's too. Yesterday she fell asleep on MIL's lap for 45 min but still had a decent night (though tbh not sure when she woke up!). So I guess that if she can self regulate and drop to sleep if she needs it then that is what we will do (however going to have to have MIL wake her after 30-45 min if she does sleep). E just got all 4 canines at once so not looking forward to molars.

[rachsk8]

I love this thread, I always learn something! Even though we dropped the nap months ago I'm pleased to read some of you do a 13hr day too. My DS is not consistent with his ons hours - lately we get anything from 10.5 - 12hrs (very rare we get a 12hr night these days though!) BT is between 7.30-8pm as I find after a long night we almost always get a short night so theres no point doing a 12hr day if he's woken at 8am. But I'm not wanting to make BT any later than 8pm either, so what to do?

He seems to still cope on 10.5hrs ons despite me wishing he'd do a little more than that!!

Hugs to all in this tricky transition.

[MasynSpencerElliotte]

I think if you want to keep an 8 pm bedtime then you have to keep the wake up consistent too if it affects bedtime.

E fell asleep on the floor today...lol she was mad at me for stopping her from playing with the blinds and fell asleep mid tantrum! Let her doze for 30 min but she was a bear to wake. If she has a good night I will make a better effort to keep her up as bedtime wound up being 8:45 - and she spent a lot of time outside and on the trampoline so was well exercised.

[LovelyLilyandJack]

Lol at E falling asleep mid tantrum! I've never seen that before! Jack will drop off if he's tired  (lily never has), and he's done it mid play,  but never mid tantrum!

I'm just lying in bed listening to J chatting,  after a short night.  He'll be grumpy by the time the sun comes up cos he woke early today.  Can't think of any reason for it except he had a very very low key day yesterday with very little exercise. I don't do much to compensate - I think once they've dropped their naps it's easiest just to keep a set BT and let them self regulate.  We're travelling today and away for the weekend in a strange house, so I'll probably put J to bed slightly early tonight to account for the early start,  and also to give him time to settle into a different bed, but I can't go too early cos he'll wake up early again tomorrow, so generally I stick to a set BT now. 

[MasynSpencerElliotte]

Lol at E falling asleep mid tantrum! I've never seen that before! Jack will drop off if he's tired  (lily never has), and he's done it mid play,  but never mid tantrum!

It was kind of hilarious, I had told her off for playing with the blinds and she threw herself down on a pillow to have a meltdown and after a min of carrying on she was out! Has not done a repeat performance yet, we did do a nap on saturday but it was hard getting her down so the last two days were nnd's. We were out today and she did not even fall asleep in the van. Stuck inside otherwise though due to smoke from forest fires so no way to wear her out except to keep her up all day.

[TB9]

I think once they've dropped their naps it's easiest just to keep a set BT and let them self regulate.

I feel the same.  If its a weird developmental phase then I will go by A time.  But if LO is really making an effort to drop the nap, then I just set bedtime and eventually they sort it out themselves.

DD2 had two no nap days in a row, then gor croup   But she just had 3 no nap days since she started feeling better, and seems perfectly fine   I have her bedtime set at 7pm, and she sleeps until about 7/7:30am, I hope she can keep it up!