help with 8 month old who won't settle but doesnt like to be picked up

[tashgordon]

Hi

Not managed an EBT yet but EW are better. last few were:

5.08, 5.17, 5.37, 5.08, 5.54

On the 5.37 and 5.54 he was wide awake adn wanting to get up so got him up, all the others i resettled him but took 40-70min and then he slept another 40min.

Yesterday when he had woken at 5.08 adn then slept again from 6.20 to 7am it was quite hard to get him down at 12 for nap adn then really hard to get him down at BT I had started early and he only dropped off at 7.15.

When I have tried to get it  15min earlier it just seems to take longer for him to go to sleep. He had been at kids party yesterday afternoon so could hvae been that (he hadnt had sugar though).

thanks

[Kellyjs]

Extra stimulation like parties does seem to work like sugar in this house too  .

Hmm difficult one, I'd be tempted to keep at it for another few days and see what happens. Remind me, did I ask if there were any teeth coming through? Although he does seem quite happy when he wakes (from what I'm deducing from your posts), and he's never really done 11+ hr nights since you switched to one nap has he? X

[tashgordon]

He has never done 11 hr night ever!

Still trying to do an ebt but not managing, might do in next couple days

No teeth coming but a lot of SA for last 3 weeks and have been wondering if that is making BT wise. Though fine at NT.

He is happy on waking if later then 5.30 but if earlier tends to be upset.

[Kellyjs]

Hmmm we might have to consider LSN. If that's the case, EBT might make the EW worse. SA could definitely make BT worse. Some do really well with the wi/wo method. For mine though, it tends to stimulate her more. Unless she is crying, I usually talk to her through the door to reassure her.

How long is the nap now hun? Is he falling asleep for that ok?

[geopch]

Hi

He goes down for nap without too much bother so I suspect he is OT at BT.

I managed to fiinish stories adn have him in his cot by 6pm yesterday adn it was a bit easier but was still 6.30 by the time he fell asleep, but he was less shouty.

Didnt get home early enough to do that tonight so was 6.20 when he went into cot and 7pm when he fell asleep.

He woke up at 5.20am even with the earlier BT so I probably need to stick with those, interestingly he still took about an hour to go back to sleep but only slept about 20min from 6.20 to 6.40am

If he is LSN with a natural early wake up time how do I manage with one nap.

Am getting a bit fed up of combo of an hour by the cot at 5am and then 30min plus at BT, at least at 5am he is queit for most of it rather then shouting but he is still often waking up his big brother which is also less then ideal.

If I just let him get up at 5 or 5.30am he will need at least a catnap early in the morning?

Feeling a bit confused by it, or stuck maybe?  Di I go for 1 nap too early but when he had 2 I thinkthe WU were earlier....

Thanks

[tashgordon]

Are morning adn afternoon AT usually the same or different.

He can happily manage 5hrs or bit more in morning, even if he has been awake at 5am for an hour adn gone back to sleep for 30min.

He generally has 2hrs at lunchtime so in my mine 7pm BT should be fine but it clearly isnt?

feeling bit better then when i posted previous rant as DP did the 5.20slot this am!!!

[tashgordon]

We had a miracle this morning. He woke up at 6.45!
Following this has had a great day with a nap 12 to 2 even though in a sliing and then BT much easier so feels like he had a better day if sleeps till 7am.
Not sure why he slept later.  We got in car at 6.20pm last night and drove as we are away for weekend. He fell asleep about 6.40, died briefly after about 45 min and then also woke for brief period when transferred to cot at about 8pm. Do you think that means w2s would be good.
Am hoping for another later wu.
T

[Kellyjs]

O sorry for the late reply hun, my ipad was playing up.

That's amazing, congratulations on a decent wu!

You know, maybe the w2s might work, but it would need to be at a different time ie earlier in the morning, but in any case, this is a definite turn up for the books.

How has today gone? Xx

[tashgordon]

On sunday he woke up 6.40am
We drove homme in his nap so he only had just over an hour nap adn then needed to go to bed early and was asleep by 6.30am adn woke up at 6am this morning.

Still much better.

will keep you posted.

[Kellyjs]

Woo hoo!  x