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Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« on: January 18, 2015, 06:30:31 am »
He's decided sleep is for the weak. ::)

I am pretty sure this is molar related, and possibly fear of his cot :-\ Which he has never had but Z had at this age too.

Lots of calling back, crying, wanting cuddles but always ends up going to sleep in his cot in the end because he can't sleep on/with us in the recliner anyway. Its also very hot here atm.

Routine was ...

WU 6.45-7
Nap 1.30-3
BT 7.15-7.30

Now he's fighting it till 8ish and then trying to sleep in. We have some EW of 6.15 or so then he goes back to sleep and I have to wake ::) If he does sleep in we have nap refusals and he can not do a NND yet, he can not cope (we get 3 hr long NW from OT )

I have NO idea what to do. Were trying for 3 days to give pain meds 30 mins before BT and waking him at 7 to keep him on routine but I have a feeling this won't work. :'( Any ideas/thoughts?
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Re: Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2015, 10:17:14 am »
Hun I agree you are doing all you can re: teeth.  Do you this this is 1-0 ??? I don't think he's been HSN in the past has he?  We were well into nap dropping with J by now, all gone by 2y5m and would definitely have had BT resistance and silly nights on that routine.  If he can't do a NND yet could you try capping further?  Maybe 2-3pm and same BT, the longer A in the morning might help with tiredness at BT?

Or...move BT to 8pm? Maybe less resistance?  If he settles easier doing that it would probably confirm UT at BT then you can decide whether to accept short nights for a while if he's coping or make decision to cap nap?

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Re: Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2015, 06:38:35 am »
yeah...I thought you may say he's possibly nap dropping. Im in denial :P

Today we did this, and we will hold for 3 days and see if things settle. Otherwise ill have to come up with a different plan re nap and BT :-\

WU 7
Nap 1.30-2.40 (opps but we think he probably didn't go to sleep till 1.40 anyway)
BT 7.40

Will see how he goes DH has just walked out of his room
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Re: Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2015, 07:51:44 am »
Let us know xx

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Re: Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2015, 08:10:51 am »
Well Bt was better so that is a start. He called out and dh popped his head in and had words (it's time for bed Tom etc) and he went to sleep - winning (for now)

I'm feeling sad about the nap....love my time during his nap!
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Re: Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2015, 09:25:39 am »
Fingers crossed for the night.  And know what you mean about Y time....what is that again??!

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Re: Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2015, 11:10:56 am »
Hi Sara and JessMum,
Been a while since I posted on here!!, not been totally plan sailing I assure you with E, but I am back working 5 days and just don't get time to even look vaguely presentable for it, let alone use my computer for anything other than work!!
Y time, whats that?

So fingers crossed despite all our problems with NWs E has never been an early riser, typically have to wake her around 7.20am to get her ready for childcare, and she was still haveing a two hour nap.
However for the last week she has been waking between 6-6.20am.
So her old routine was
WU c7.15am
nap 12.30-2.30 ( had to wake)
BT 7pm, settled herself pretty well in 5-10 mins of singing (Let it GOoooooo!!)

We have started cutting her nap to 1.5 hrs, results in grumpy afternoon, and then meltdowns after bath but still going to bed well by 7pm.

Just wondering what to do about the 6am starts?? just another phase!! she then struggles to get beyond 12.30 for a nap, and if I wake at 2pm is asking to go to bed about 6pm!!

Hope you are both well apart from the obvious sleep deprivation ha ha
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Re: Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2015, 03:52:32 am »
Fingers crossed for the night.  And know what you mean about Y time....what is that again??!
lol, its gone with 2 kiddos :'( (hence why I love my evenings and really don't like sleep battles at BT)

So, ok night to report. He woke and resettled himself a few times, I suspect this is teething discomfort. Went in at 7 and he was awake (well popped up)
So stuck to the plan and did 1.3-2.30 and we will see what tonights BT at 7.30 brings. FX!

Claire, the EW could be her way of trying to get more A time, so UT but then tired by 12.30 because of the EW yk?
Or, it ould be teeth? We have lots of 6, 6.30 resettling when T is teething.
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Re: Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2015, 21:35:00 pm »
Hi,
Yes teeth always disturbs our nights. ( not missing those 2hr wake ups!!) only two molars to go, phew.

Well I also wondered if perhaps she was cold, so I dressed her in another layer and socks for bed.
I had to wake her at 7.20am this morning.

So it could be a coincidence and I have asked the childminder to cap her nap at 1.5 hrs so today she slept 12.40pm- 2.10pm and had to be woken.

Hopefully we get another 12hr night x
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Re: Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2015, 21:50:38 pm »
Ugh well last night was back to same antics. He was crying and saying random words, showing SA and saying he had sore hiccups and needed to vomit. I think he reflux may be back with the teething, and also me being slack about keeping him off dairy/gluten.
Ended up with
WU 7
Nap 1.30-2.30
Bt 7.30 but not asleep till 8.10
NW at 2 gave meds
I had to wake at 7.10 (all slept in!)

I'll stick with the plan tonight but give both patrol and brufen before bed. I'm also going to make sure he has no dairy and gluten at all.
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Re: Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2015, 14:10:00 pm »
Good luck Sara.
Think our issue was cold actually as we got another 7.15am wake up.

Sure there will be another phase soon though!
Claire x
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Re: Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2015, 18:43:04 pm »
Well he was better last night we pulled bit forward a bit too
WU 7.10
Nap 1.30-2.30
Bt 7.-5 asleep 7.40 DH dealt with him and said he was 'less' needy but he did have to do 10 mins of cuddles after a cry before he would go into the cot.
WU 6.50

I am kinda worried his total S has dropped so much :-\
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Re: Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2015, 13:36:52 pm »
If this is 1-0 it could well be inevitable that sleep totals drop for a while, the nap will probably prevent the long night, which then makes them tired and drives the need for a nap even more.  Glad bt went a bit better though sorry he's still refluxing :(.  How's his mood?

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Re: Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2015, 08:19:52 am »
Moods improving .. And we have the first molar ridge cut through (or I can feel the tooth edge) hallelujah!
So, I have tried to be proactive. I've called our gp and asked if he can have a month of losec on his old dose to get us through this period and she was happy to do that.
I've also pulled bt forward but the nap is only 1hr now. DH is doing GW at bt, ie holding him less and less before he goes in the cot. (He always goes in the cot awake) and things are a bit better (touch wood)
Today was
WU 7 but stirred at 6,6.20 (I think he's dozing due to teeth maybe)
Nap 1.45-3 but only because he was shattered - then wouldn't go down at 1.30
Bt 7.15 asleep by 7.30

So we will see what tonight brings. If the nap is too long we may get a EW :-\ but I'm inclined to think the problem may be more teeth with a bit of 1-0 rather thus  all 1-0 ???
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Re: Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2015, 09:10:22 am »
You're probably right hun, never straightforward is it?!

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Re: Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2015, 09:46:51 am »
Sigh, my kids are funny, it's always one, then the other. It's kind of good in some ways but in other ways it's constantly something yk?

Anyway, do you think an 11.5 hr night is ok with a 1 hr nap? He is spirited with but textbook behaviourally. Sleeps always been good but he did transition 3-2 and 2-1 early.
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Re: Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2015, 11:41:49 am »
I think if he's close to nap drop that looks really good, if nights start shortening again you may need to cap further or do some nnds if he can handle them x

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Re: Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2015, 18:59:45 pm »
Just jumping in Sara, I think that is a really good amount of sleep for his age. When the nap goes, you may make it to the holy grail of a 12hr night!
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Re: Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2015, 09:45:14 am »
Just jumping in Sara, I think that is a really good amount of sleep for his age. When the nap goes, you may make it to the holy grail of a 12hr night!
I just worry it's low for him yk? Hes usually a 13/24 guy not a 12/24 but he does cope very well with OT. (Thank god as ds1 does not!)

Anyway. Last night was the pits. But it was down to him trying yogurt. - NW all.night.long so ummmm that was an epic failure.

Tonight he settled on his own. DH didn't even have to go snack in once :D so seeing that as a big success. Will see what the night brings but hoping to settle into this
WU 7
Nap 1.30-2.30 (if bad night offer slightly longer cu nap)
Bt z7/7.30 depending on his day.

Does that look ok for his age?
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Re: Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2015, 13:52:26 pm »
I would say just about perfect :)

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Re: Mr 2yrs 3 months is driving us batty!
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2015, 13:41:26 pm »
Hi Sara,
E still doing 1.5hr nap and then 12 hr night. We seem over the EWs for now.
I know she definitely cannot cope over tired or push through so this is working for us at the moment.
I want to preserve the nap as long as possible ha( how else do we get anything done in a day)

Hope last night was better
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