8.5 month old refusing naps

[Missmel]

Hi there, I'm new to the site but have been reading the BW since before my  :-\son was born. My son is 8.5 months old and pretty much since he turned 8 months he has been refusing to go down for his naps. He had been sleeping through the night since 3 months old and and was able to self soothe to sleep at night and daytime with no help from us. Until 8 months! He recently began crawling just over a week ago, and also pulling up to stand on everything he can including his crib.  My husband and I have begun pu/pd this past week but I'm wondering if there is something more we can do? Or just keep going with it? We will go put him down and he automatically rolls to his tummy then stands up. We start pu/pd and it continues to be a battle. So basically if we get one nap in, he's so tired by dinner that we end up making bath/bed routine earlier.. Please help? Or just let me know if we are doing something wrong I'm hoping we have not done accidental parenting.
Thanks!!!

[nevinsmama]

Sounds like developmental chaos and maybe need an A time increase to me. Can you post your current EASY and describe what you are doing with your PUPD? New skills can really rumple sleep up! Keep us posted!

[Missmel]

Yes! There are definitely developmental milestones happening all at once over here. For pu/pd once we have out him down (on his back) for his nap he automatically rolls to tummy then sits then up to stand within seconds. So once we see this on the monitor we go in and without talking to him we lay him down again.. And this repeats and repeats, we do every other time say "it's nap time now, you are tired .." The reason we know he is tired is because during all his rolling,sitting to standing combination he is rubbing his eyes as well as yawning. So this is why I'm confused, if he is SO tired why the roll, sit, stand? And not sleep!? we have done the pu/pd for a full hour and still he would not go down.

Our day yesterday was this
Wake up 6 breastfeed
7 solids breakfast
845 nap
Woke up 920 did pupd went back to sleep til 1020
1030 breastfeed
1130 solids lunch
1230-1 swimming lesson
115 fell asleep in car for 10 mins woke up at home still tired
130 breastfed
200 tried for nap pupd until 3
445 solids dinner
545 bath
615 bed

(He woke up wide awake at 2am) then went back to sleep until 540 (pupd)until 630
I'm wondering if my feeding is at the wrong times? Since starting solids it's hard to gauge when he is needing/wanting milk? I've been trying to extend his morning A time because he was waking anywhere from 6 to 630 and then wanting to go back down pretty much an hour later..so I introduced having his 'breakfast' before his nap which has helped extend his awake time.   Any info can help!! Thanks!

[nevinsmama]

This can be a tricky age, well the whole first year can be that way, but anyway, these LOs can be hard to read at this age and many Mamas have found themselves watching the clock more than the LO. The tires signs, in so many, can actually be "I'm bored, I'm thirsty, I need a change of scene" and so on. I would push an A closer to 3.5 hours if I were you.

The blessed micro car naps were tough for my DD, even after those she would need another 2 hours before trying for a nap and we would sometimes AP to avoid all the late PM OT chaos and screaming.

New skills can really mess things up. I would give LO time in the crib during A time to practice all this new stuff and make it playtime and then when he is in for a nap, let him be if he is not crying. I would not lie him down, if he DOES get upset, I would sit by him and pat the mattress and repeat your sleepy phrase.

HTH and keep us posted!