Author Topic: Refuses nap every few days? (Read 2640 times)

Chloevalentine · « **on:** March 18, 2015, 17:09:20 pm »

Starting last week lo would refuse his nap a few days then he was fine and went back to napping. Today it started again. I put him in crib for nap hew cries for a few mins then stops but stands up and starts crying. I gave him a bit to settle but he was getting so upset so I went in to console him and lay him back down but he just starts up crying again when I leave the room. Any suggestions?

Mattsmummy · « **Reply #1 on:** March 18, 2015, 18:25:18 pm »

How old is he hun, and what is his easy right now?

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #2 on:** March 18, 2015, 19:11:22 pm »

He will be 21 months end of March. He usually is:
7-730 wake
1230-2 nap this can be 1 hr 15 mins some days almost 2 hrs
730 into crib lately he's not falling asleep until 8

jessmum46 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 18, 2015, 19:50:37 pm »

Sounds kind of normal to me.....we had on/off nap refusal from about that age. How about shifting naptime a little later to 12.45/1pm? I wonder if you're in an UT/OT loop with a nap a touch too early right now?

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #4 on:** March 18, 2015, 20:56:03 pm »

He's usually tired by 1230 after lunch but guess I could try. He's napped grrat the past few days at 1230. Guess I'll put him to bed by 7 tonight.

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #5 on:** March 18, 2015, 23:05:48 pm »

My gut feeling is a little seperation anxiety. He only wants me lately not even his daddy. What can I do for that?

jessmum46 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 20, 2015, 10:05:12 am »

Just reassurance and WIWO for naptime really. I would consider the later nap though, tired signs may well just be habit at this age x

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #7 on:** March 20, 2015, 10:59:24 am »

I have tried a bit later for nap but the problem was that he gets hungry for lunch at 12 and will go to the kitchen to the refrigerator lol I've tried to occupy him and stall lunch but he just hangs around in kitchen fussing. Then he also knows that after lunch we go right up for nap and when I took him from highchair and just let him play a bit until it was later he as s hard time stopping what he's doing to go up for nap. This guy is so accustomed to routine! Yesteday he cried when I put him into crib for a minute than passed out for a 1 hour 15 min nap and was up by 145 and bedtome was the same at 730 he was asleep by 750. But he is up early today at 640 when he usually sleeps until 730 am.

jessmum46 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 20, 2015, 12:57:40 pm »

I wouldn't let meals dictate sleep really.... $:-\$ I mean yes he might be fussing but surely you could keep him occupied for 15 mins? Or just let him sit in the highchair with some finger foods or something?

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #9 on:** March 20, 2015, 13:51:47 pm »

I'll give it a try! It's not that meals dictate sleep it's just that he know that a nap comes after lunch. So I think im better off just trying pushing out lunch instead of letting him get involved in play after lunch since I have a hard time tsking him away from what he's doing to put down for nap. He's more likely to refuse the nap that way.

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #10 on:** March 21, 2015, 23:55:56 pm »

I've realized on the days where lo refuses nap either I find that he has pooped when I go in to calm him or like today he finally resettled after me going in and 30 mins later he woke up and had pooped. Not much I can do to prevent this but it's messing up his nap !

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #11 on:** March 23, 2015, 18:13:45 pm »

So I've been trying to push the nap back from 1230 to 1245/1 depending on when he wakes in morning and we are still having issues. Mostly when I leave the room he stands up in crib and cries. I've notuced if I go right back in and pick him up for a cuddle and try to leave again eventually he falls asleep. I was letting him try to settle on his own but the more upset he got the greater the chance he wouldn't sleep at all. Just not sure why he is doing this out of nowhere. And I don't think the later I put him down helps much.

jessmum46 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 23, 2015, 19:02:21 pm »

What time is morning WU and what time is he actually falling asleep for nap? Any teeth coming through?

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #13 on:** March 23, 2015, 22:36:19 pm »

Morning wake up is between 7-730. I guess he might be getting molars not dure. Tiday he went in at 1245 and fell asleep at 1:05 after going back in the calm him but then he only sleeps an hour

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #14 on:** March 25, 2015, 00:48:54 am »

What am I doing wrong? Today he was up at 720/730 am and went down for nap at 1245 fell asleep around 1 but didn't cry! Slept until 215/220 and bedtime was the same 730/740 and usually falls asleep by 8. Tonight he was up until 830 in crib talking and rolling around! He's never up that late! Ugh

jessmum46 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 25, 2015, 07:34:55 am »

I think nap needs pushing (sorry to go on....).....at his age we were pushing towards a 1/1.30pm nap from a 6.30/7am WU, with some shorter naps on nursery days. I think probably he doesn't have enough A in a decent chunk in the day to make him tired enough to settle well for bed. If you don't like moving nap too much you could wake earlier in morning? But I think probably 5h pre and post nap isn't quite right now. We had more like 6-6.5 before and shorter afterwards, 4-4.5h

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #16 on:** March 25, 2015, 10:52:46 am »

But yesterday we did do a 1pm nap (1-2:20) adter waking around 715 am then into crib at 740 but he didn't fall asleep until 830! He had a lot of energy though at night after dinner and just couldn't wind down. That would make me think he would need more A time before bed no? If I did 730 wake 1-230 nap and into crib at 730 so he was asleep at 8? He used to do well with a 7/730 wake 1230-2 ( on occasion 230) bedtine 730.

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #17 on:** March 30, 2015, 16:55:46 pm »

So it been about two weeks of trying to push nap back but nothing helps! Yesterday was no nap again but he fell asleep before 630 last night because he was exhausted. He slept until about 645 today and I tried for the old naptime at 1230 today. Had to wiwo 3 times. The third time I picked him up but didn't move away from crib. He fell asleep in my arms and would cry a little with his eyes closed. He finally fell asleep. This is off from a child who always goes in his crib awake and falls asleep on his own. Any other suggestions? This is getting stressful every day.

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #18 on:** March 30, 2015, 17:56:19 pm »

He slept for 30 mins and up crying? This is exhausting

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #19 on:** March 30, 2015, 23:28:52 pm »

So tonight he cried when we put him in crib for bed had to wiwo twice. This is a baby who goes down every night awake in crib and puts himslf to sleep. Help! This is getting so frustrating. And I think he's exhausted!

jessmum46 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 31, 2015, 10:00:52 am »

It sounds like he's accumulated some OT

can you post last 2-3 days? Maybe throw in a super EBT?

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #21 on:** March 31, 2015, 11:02:30 am »

It's got to be ot at this point. I thought subday night going down at 630 was a super early bt. I think last night his teeth might've been bothering him because he woke crying from nap and couldnt calm down for over an hour which is when the tylenol might've kicked in.
Monday:
645 awake
Put in crib 1230 had to wiwo 3 times fell asleep at 1 until 1:30 woke crying
7 put in crib had to wiwo twice he was crying fell asleep 740 ish

Sunday:
730 awake
Tried 130 nap ( had people over at house) he just stood up crying but was overtired never napped at all
630 asleep passed out!

Saturday:
720 awake
Went into crib maybe 1245 wiwo twice fell asleep aroubd 1 slept for an hour
Into crib 730 not asleep until after 8

Friday:
730 awake
Tried nap at 1 wiwo twice fell asleep at 130 until 220 ish b

I never have to wiwo at night he usually just plays a while and falls asleep on his own. Last night was the first time I had to wiwo. Nap time has been rough for a few weeks which is why I pushed nap later from 1230-1 but still giving me problems and I have to wiwo every day.

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #22 on:** March 31, 2015, 16:35:13 pm »

Today he woke at 720 and started to cry first thing. I gave him tylenol and it seemed to help. It's got to be his 2 year molars. I also gave him tylenol before nap and put him down at 1220. He sat up for a while but no crying ( first time in over a week) and fell asleep by 1230! So it seems we are back on old nap schedule at least for now until he gets over the ot. The only reason I pushed the nap was because he was awake in crib for a while fussing and crying not seeming tired ebough at 1230. But ever since I pushed it later it's been more of a problem.

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #23 on:** March 31, 2015, 18:02:32 pm »

He napped for an hour 1230-130 but woke happy. I'll probably try for 7 bedtime

jessmum46 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 01, 2015, 07:22:58 am »

How did it go?

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #25 on:** April 01, 2015, 10:56:44 am »

He ended up going into crib at 720 without a fuss and was asleep before 8 which is pretty typical for him this past month. Plus with the tylenol I really think it helped. I'm just wondering if I should just stick with old nap time at 1230 or if it was just the tylenol that helped him lol. He was up from his nap at 130 and wasn't asleep until 8 isn't that a long A time before bed? And he's already up this morning before 7 which isn't early but he usually does an 11.5-12 hour night after only an hour nap the day before.

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #26 on:** April 01, 2015, 16:31:32 pm »

Day 2 of tylenol and old nap time of 1230 and he went right down! He might only sleep an hour and be up at 130 but he seems to handle the long A time before bed

maybe he will just take an early short nap unlike most toddlers his age. Whatever works

jessmum46 · « **Reply #27 on:** April 01, 2015, 16:42:41 pm »

Absolutely! Good news, hope it continues

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #28 on:** April 01, 2015, 17:27:17 pm »

Me too! Guess I'll just look for signs again to see if he's ready to push nap back again. Do tiddlers 21 months usually push out the nap later before they drop it? I'm hoping he'll keep the nap for a while longer

jessmum46 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 01, 2015, 18:06:22 pm »

I think it really depends on the toddler. Some will keep at same time right up to nap drop, just shortening or having it capped shorter. DD started to refuse her nap so we had to push later to keep it or she would never go to sleep. Hopefully the 1-0 is a while off for you - though I have to say the day is a whole load easier without naps to work round!!

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #30 on:** April 01, 2015, 20:05:06 pm »

How late in the day and for how long does/did your lo nap? Did it make BT later?

jessmum46 · « **Reply #31 on:** April 02, 2015, 09:08:52 am »

Hasn't napped in a while now.....but nap got as late as 2ish for 45-1h max for a 7pm BT (we never put down later than that, though when nap was needing to go she would take a long time to go to sleep). When we were having lots of no nap days, the nap days were just a 20 min catnap in the car around 3pm to hold off too much OT, with normal BT.

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #32 on:** April 02, 2015, 10:51:58 am »

He did take a 1 hr 15 min nap yesterday from 1230-145 and I put him in around 720 he was up until almost 8! And he's waking a bit earlier before 7. It's still a longer day for him but I'm just happy he's not protesting the nap or bedtime!

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #33 on:** April 02, 2015, 18:19:45 pm »

So today he was up just before 7 (which is earlier than normal) and he did a nap from 1230-130 but when I try to put him to bed like last night at 720 he was wide awake standing up calling me (no crying) and didn't fall asleep until 8! Isn't that a long A time before bed?

jessmum46 · « **Reply #34 on:** April 02, 2015, 19:06:01 pm »

It is, but then again I didn't find A times particularly useful at that age, or rather, I didn't really think about them. Nap time was when it was and bedtime was set also give or take 15 mins. If it wasn't working (and wasn't developmental silliness as far as I could tell) something needed changing in the routine. Do you think it was OT second wind perhaps? Or if not, I'd be back to thinking push the nap later $:-\$

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #35 on:** April 02, 2015, 20:32:39 pm »

Could've been ot second wind but I'm sticking to the 730 into crib I'm not going to push it later and I think waking at 7 taking a 1 hour nap from 1230-130 that bedtme at 730 is late enough? I'm afraid to push that nap again because of the mess it created with him not napping at all! Lol

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Author Topic: Refuses nap every few days? (Read 2640 times)