Anyone want to talk about 3:2 nap transition? Part 3

[Martini~]

It depends on you Honey. If she had 12+4:15 after that age I would go for 15:45  approximately so 30min less. It means that with two nap routine you would have lonooong A:
7am wu
9:45-11:45
14:30-16:15
7pm BT

with 3x2:45 A time. Is it feasible? It's much more than she had recently. But if you go with capping first nap and fitting a catnap there, she can be on a 3-nap routine for a tad longer and you will transit her to 2 naps when she it ready to handle 2:45 A times 4x times a day.

[H7]

Put her down at 6 last night so 3hr 15 awake time before bed and she slept til 6am then on off between 6 & 7.

Today she's had the 3hr 45  total nap time again

7am wu
9.45 nap (2hr 45 awake but went this long due to swimming lesson)
11.30 wu
13.45 nap (2hr 15 awake time)
15.45 wu

Going to aim for 6.30/6.45 bed time and see how we go.

Cheers for your help and insight

[Martini~]

Great:) keeping my fingers crossed!

[Scottishmummy]

Anyone else still on this thread?

We're at an awkward stage of 3-2 where 2 naps isn't enough sleep  & 3 naps is too much. DD seems to always be either OT or UT at bedtime and both are giving us EW- 5 or 5.30 every morning this week. Sometimes she resettles by 6 for another 40 mins or so sometimes not.

DD is 6mo & on 3hrs A time when well rested, 2.30-2.45 if tired.  Her days vary but a 2 nap day is usually one of 45-60min in the morning and one of 1.5-2hrs early afternoon - finishing between 2.30-3. I then aim for 6pm BT but it's sometimes late if things get held up by older brother DS.

If DD gets OT or won't resettle on EW we end up with a 3nap day- usually similar to the above but with a catnap of 15-20min late afternoon.

It feels like DD gets OT on 2naps, catches up with 3 but is then UT, has 2naps and goes back to OT. Any suggestions on how to get out of this OT/UT loop? I'd love to sleep past 5.30 again!!

[Scottishmummy]

Here are our last few days in EASY format:

Mon:
Wu: 5.40, wouldn't go back to sleep, in dark until 7am
E: milk at 7; breakfast at 8
A: 3hr20
S 9-10.15 (1hr15)
E: 11
A: 2hr55
S: 13.10-15.00 (1hr50)
E:milk at 15.00 tea at 17.00
A: 3hr30
E:milk 17.50
S: in bed 18.00, chatting, not settling, asleep at 18.30
(NW: 11 & 3 for feeds)

Tues
Wu: 5.40 back to sleep 6am
Wu & E: 7.00milk ; solids at 8
A: 3hrs
S: 10-11 (1hr)
E: 11
A: 2hr45 (tired as it had been DS' party that morning)
S: 13.45-15.15
E: 15.20milk; solids at 17.00
A:3hr30
E: milk 18.15
S: bed 18.30, asleep 18.45
(NWs: 10.30feed  1-2 feed at 2)

Wed:
Wu: 6.30
E:7milk solids at 8
A: 3hr
S: 9.30-10.10 (40mins)
E:11
A: 3hr
S:13.10-14.45
E: 15.00 milk, solids at 17.30 (running late!)
A: 3hr30
E:milk 18.00
S: 18.15 asleep immediately
(NWs 9,9.30, 10, 10.30(feed) & 2.30 feed)

Thurs:
Wu: 4,45 back to sleep 5.45-6.30
Wu: 6.30
E 7milk & 8 solids
A: 2hr40 seemed very tired
S: 9.10-9.30
E: 11
A: 2hr
S: 11.30-1.30
E: 13.45 solids, 15.00milk (solids earlier as tea would clash with nursery run)
A: 2hr55
S:4.25-4.40
A: 2hr20
E: 18.15
S:in bed 18.40 asleep 19.00

[Gully]

Scottishmummy,

I could have written your post myself. We are in the exact same position with our 6.5 month DD! The early wake ups are killing me! Any chance you have made it through and have some advice for us?

It feels like as soon as we fixed naps, this happened, need to feel like things will eventually settle (but not too eventual if you know what I mean!)

[Scottishmummy]

Hello Gully!
Apologies, I have only just seen your post.

We did eventually get past the EWs...after a while DD started consistently taking 2 good naps in the day but then also started refusing to go to sleep a night. We ended up pushing her last A time to 30-45 mins longer than her other A times and that seemed to fix the EWs.

How's your DD doing now?

[mummyW]

Hi all,
My LO is 23 weeks (5.5) months and I think she's ready to drop the cat nap.
Our current day looks like this:
WU 4 (resettle)
WU 5 (resettle)
WU 6/6.30
E 7/7.30
S 9-10.30 (she only sleeps 45 minutes then I need to resettle but she goes back over pretty easily)
E 11
S 1-2.30 (again need to resettle after 45 mins)
E 3
S 5/5.30 (about 40 minutes)
E 7/7.30
Bedtime 7.30 (aim for eyes shut by then)

She is getting increasingly difficult to settle after only 2.5 hours A time.

This morning we did
WU 4 (resettle)
WU 5.30 (resettle)
WU 6.20
E 7.15
S 9.30 (took 5 minutes ssh/pat) woke up 10.10 screaming, took 10 minutes ssh/pat and lots of crying!

If we do 2 naps when do I feed in the afternoon? I assume she'll still wake up at the same time and still take her first nap at 9-10.30 ish (hopefully)
So:
WU 6/6.30
E 7
S 9-10.30
E 11
S 1.30-3/3.30
E Just when she wakes up?
But then 3/3.30-7 is far far too long for bedtime. And she's still to get another bottle.

I'm so confused and I've done this before! 
Any advice? My first wasn't as difficult as this little one, she was a typical "angel" baby. This LO is "touchy" to say the least!

[Scottishmummy]

Hi! Sorry you've not had any replies yet, this chat thread is quiet at the moment.

Have you read this link: All about the 3-2 transition- 5/6 months

Re feeds- yes feed after she wakes from 2nd nap, then do a shorter CN, or an early BT if she won't take a CN (or if CN is affecting night sleep) & give BT milk early. Once little ones are on to 2 naps there are 2 milk feeds between end of last nap and BT.

She might need a slight A time increase to get past that 45 min resettle but it looks like the jump to 3hrs the other day was too much too soon. You could try pushing to 2hr45 to start with.

If more advice would be helpful, please start a thread on the main naps board.

Good luck xxx

[Haribo2012]

Hi there I think I might join in. DS2 is 5 months 2 weeks and naps are rubbish, I'm not sure if I need an A increase but tonight had 30 min CN 5-5.30 and at 8pm was rolling about in the cot blowing bubbles shouting about 

This child baffles me, I thought second time round it was supposed to be easier lol x

[Scottishmummy]

It's funny how different a 2nd child can be. DD started the 3-2 at 5mo..I was so surprised as DS was still often still doing 4 naps at that age!

[Haribo2012]

Well today he's had 2 naps, last nap ended at 3.30 so wasn't enough time to get another one in but missed the sleep window at 6.15 by big brother being loud, so then had happy manic OT ages to settle baby 

[ireneasheard]

My first didn't do 3-2 until 6 months... ds2 started 3-2 transition at 4 months.... at 5.5 months we are just about done with 3-2. All so different!

[ladymugg]

Hey ladies.  Just started on the 3-2 transition today after some helpful advice received in my thread in the Night Waking section.  I have a 4.30 am chatterbox!

Just went through the 3-2 post and figured out what I should be aiming for (based on a 6-6.30am WU and a 6.30pm BT):

A 6am - 9 am
S 9 am - 10.30 am
A 10.30 am - 1.30 pm
S 1.30 pm - 3 pm
A 3 pm - 6.30 pm

I know that makes the last awake time kind of long (baby is 5.5 months) but I guess we have to build up toward this over the next few weeks anyway.  Currently on 4 hourly bottles plus 1-2 feeds of solids a day so hopefully he can stretch to 4.5 hourly feeds.

Anyway just wanted to say hi and will check in if I have any questions or can offer any observations

Nic

[monsgr8]

hi,
My son just turned 7 month old and I have two older kids. Our days are quite busy with school runs and activities so we are not home much in the mornings. When we are home, my son has two 1.5/2 hour naps (at 9.15 and 1) and one catnap at 4.30, which is getting shorter lately, now around 20mins. When we are not at home our day looks like this:

7am wake bf
9ish sleep in the car 30 mins
10.30/11 sleep in car 30 mins
11ish bf
12.30/1 sleep 2/2.5 hours
2.30ish wake bf
4.30/5 sleep, was 30 mins now around 20
5.30 solids
6.30 bedtime routine, bf
7 sleeps til morning

My question is, since he's not having much sleep in the morning because we're out, should I still keep that catnap going in the afternoon? he does get tired but he's fighting it the last week or two. Thanks in advance :-)