What are some reasons for ew?

[Chloevalentine]

I've always done set nap and bedtime was just tweaking a bit being that he was up so early puttibg him down at 1230 for nap but after some suggestion that too early of a nsp could lead to ew I pushed it back again to 1 so far im getting the same nap about 1 hr - 1 hr 15 mins no matter what time he goes down and I've been putting him in crib at 7 pm and he's asleep by 730 and his wake up is still the same at 615 am! Nothing seems to make a difference. I'm just going to ride it out not much else I do I suppose. Would just really like to get back to a 7 am wake up

[lily_layne]

Will he play on his own for a while?

[Chloevalentine]

Nah he just calls "mommy mommy" today nap from 1-145! And woke crying and was cranky for a while! Ugh I give up. This kid is all over the place used to be such a good sleeper

[lily_layne]

I'd put my money on a developmental leap. DD had 45 min naps and some no nap days at that age. Now at 32 months she is napping longer than she did 10 months ago. Her nights also lengthened again.

[Chloevalentine]

So any suggestions on nap times and bedtime with a 615/630 wake up? I've been doing the 1 pm nap sonetimes it's 45 mins sometimes it's 1 hr 15 mins and into crib at night for 7 but it takes him 30 mins to fall asleep so 730 bedtime. On average 10-11 hrs night sleep 1 hr or less nap. Just trying to get a later wake up and maybe a 1.5 hr nap although im ok even with a 1 hr nap! Ps he was doing 12 hr night before this 7/730 morning - 730/8 bedtime with 1 hr 30/45 min nap as soon as the ew started everything else is thrown off I can't tell if he's ready for nap at 1230 or 1 ( seems like a long first A time) and I can't tell what bedtime works well. Should I try for later bedtime in hopes that he will sleep later in morning? I know how that can backfire lol

[Chloevalentine]

Today he stirred a bit but didn't sit up and start calling me until around 635/640 which was better his nap was good 1-230!! Wakes up starts crying and is cranky for a while though lately. Going to try for same bedtme into crib for 7 asleep by 730. Maybe after a good nap and shorter A time before bed he might sleep later tomorrow morning

[Shiv52]

How'd your night go?

[Chloevalentine]

He was up a bit later in the morning around 635/40 napped great from 1-230 woke up crying and cranky I kept bedtime the same putting him in crib a little after 7 around 710 ( because he had a meltdown / tantrum getting out of bath) and it took him almost an hour to fall asleep after 8!  I think it must be a combo of language leap and the fact that it's lighter earlier in morning and later at night. He's waking up now at 630! That's about 10 hours of night sleep. Maybe I'll try the earlier nap today around 1245? I have no idea what else to try!

[Chloevalentine]

He's been doing a 10 hr night with a 1 hr 15 min nap. Awake at 630 didnt fall asleep until after 8! Today we will be out at nap time so he will sleep on ride home probably not more than 40 mins going to try to have him in bed by 7 at the latest. I think it would be good to have him actually asleep by 7 but that means getting him into crib by 630 which seems so early to me plus it's still really light out. Lately he's been having a meltdown when it's time to get out of bath and get pjs on I can assume he's just ot by then.

[Lindsay27]

I think it would be good to have him actually asleep by 7 but that means getting him into crib by 630 which seems so early to me plus it's still really light out.

It seems early, but really BT at 6:30 is a 12hr day which is what I think you should aim for - 13hrs max, plus he might muck around a bit which would likely make BT closer to 7/7:30.  Do you have any blackout blinds?

Lately he's been having a meltdown when it's time to get out of bath and get pjs on I can assume he's just ot by then.

I suspect you are right, I think starting the BT routine earlier like you suggested could help combat this.

[Shiv52]

I don't think it's realistic to aim for a 12 hour day at this age with a 1/1.5 hour nap.  I would be aiming for a 13 hour day for sure. Or you'll keep getting that wake up.

What is his Afternoon and evening like?  Is he getting lots of physical play?  At this age being physically and mentally tired is as important as A time to get good restful sleep. Both mine slept better that way.  Still do now at 4 and 7.

Has he all his molars?

[Chloevalentine]

He usually does more than 13 hours wake at 630 bed 730/815 and 1 hr 15 min nap. Yes he gets a ton of physical and mental stimulation and we gave blackouts which don't keep 100% out. He has the bottom two but not the tops. Should I tweak his scheduke? Today he was up 630 and his nap is in car so far 40 mins what time should I do bed? Figuring in it takes him 30 mins + to fall asleep.

[Shiv52]

I would aim to get him into bed about 7.15/7.30. Did you do set naps and bedtime previously to this hiccup? 

I would base suitable wake up on time he's asleep YK? So if he's asleep by 7.30, I'd expect him up at 6.30am so if you want  a later wake up then you maybe need to set getting into bed at 7.30 and then push it toward 8 to hopefully get a 7am wake up.   But did you mention not wanting a later bedtime?

The molars could be at play though so I'd only make small changes. I always found set times best at this age and only altered by 10/15 mins at most. 

[Chloevalentine]

It does take him 30 mins to fall asleep so getting him into bed at 730 meabs he's awake until 8 or later and I still get the 630 wake up it doesnt seem to make a difference. Yes we always did set nap at 1230 and bed 7/730 depending on length of nap. Some people say do 12 hours he can be ot and some say 13 and to put to bed later?! So I've tried both with no change.

[Chloevalentine]

Today he was up at 630 napped in car for 45 mins 2-245 he went into crib at 710 and just fell asleep at 8!! This is crazy!