4.am starts.

[Buttonbobs]

I agree with these suggestions ^^^, let us know what you think

[kimberley1983]

Thank you ladies. Iv got the gro  clock I'm not sure he will fully understand this yet but we will give it a go lol. The blinds are going up Friday thankfully  xx

[Martini~]

Please remember Honey that groclock needs time to be established!

[Buttonbobs]

Yes it can take some time to be fully understood. We have also used stickers as a reward at times to remind E that she should stay in bed until sun comes up and not call for us unless something is wrong in the night. It can take some time, but it is worth persevering with.

If he is consistently waking at 4am you may need to set the "sun up" time to something realistic for him at first, rather than expecting him to lie quietly for 3 hours, perhaps set it for 5am and treat that as proper morning. Over time as he gets used to the idea you can move daylight time later. Have a look here for tips

Gro-Clock / Lights on a timer: What, Why, When and How

[kimberley1983]

Thank you ladies.  I got him til 5 this morning hooray which is so much more realistic. I'll keep you posted xx

[Buttonbobs]

What a good start

[kimberley1983]

Oh dear ladies we've gone really downhill for the past 2 nights he has woke at about midnight crying his eyes out!.waking the baby up. I've ended up being up with him hours just returning him to his bed. I know you might not be able to help with this but I just needed to tell you lol xx

[Buttonbobs]

Sorry to hear this hon. Are you able to post what his sleep times have been (including any wakings) for the past couple of nights.

What techniques have you used when he woke?

[kimberley1983]

I think he's been waking up because he's poorly. He's woke this morning with a really bad cold. He's been going to bed at 7ish still then waking any where between 22.00 and 1am. Iv just gone in and put him back in his bed without speaking to him (although I did give him a kiss on one occasion ) then iv come back out  . Iv just left the room and he's back at his door crying xx

[kimberley1983]

Ladies last night was dreadful he was asleep 7 till 10 then awake crying til 3am. My mum slept to try and help and everything either if us left the room  he would cry. Eventually he went to sleep at 3 but woke at just gone 5 for the day. It's getting me so down and fed up all iv done is cry. I'm dreading tonight already I just don't know what to do x

[Buttonbobs]

Does he still have a cold honey? Have you been able to do anything to help him feel less blocked during the night (raising the cot/bed a little at the head end, using a steamer etc)?

I'm sorry it does sound like you're having a tough time (((hugs)))

[cath~]

(((hugs)))

It does sound like he's under the weather.  I hope he's better really soon.  Then you can crack on with tackling EWs again.  Sadly, not much you can do when they're ill though