Lots of NW - Cant seem to fix it.(BT ADVICE FOR TONIGHT PLEASE)

[jessmum46]

Sorry I missed this, what did you do and how did it go?

I know it's hard when she's so touchy . But you can't stay in all the time, especially not with another LO Keep hanging in there, this does get easier.  If it helps when B's nights were dreadful sometimes I just decided we'd go out and have a nice day, if he was going to be up anyway I might as well enjoy the daytime instead of being miserable day and night yk?

[Eva's Mummy]

I went for 2hrs and 40 mins. We had a nw 50 mins later,  then another one 50 mins after that. Then an hour after that at 22:25 then a nw at 4:05 - 4:40 this one she was trying hard to get to sleep but just couldn't manage it. Until I stroked her head  ( I gave meds here).

I just can't get my head round I'd she needs a bit more a time but maybe shorter to bed. Or if it's totally it or ot. What do you think?

I have a feeling she's going to be one that won't settle properly until solidly on 1 nap x

[jessmum46]

She shouldn't be OT on her A times really, which makes me think there's more to it.  I think you may be right about not settling until on one nap, neither of mine have ever had a consistent predictable routine until hitting the one nap stage (and even then nap was never the same length due to nursery ). I suggested elsewhere to try a capped first nap to try to at least coordinate with DD1s nap but not sure how you'd feel about that given her first nap tends to be a good one?

[Eva's Mummy]

Well her 1st nap was 1hr 25 this morning. Usually I need to wake her after 2 hours  and she woke herself yesterday pm nap after 39 mins.  So maybe she is due another push now those 4 teeth have cut, they are not all the way through but all the teeth are cut if you know what I mean. I think I would be willing to give it a go bit it does scare me a bit. Maybe I will try pushing her first 2 A times out and shortening A to BT then if no improvement I will start the capped AM nap on Monday. I have to admit, a bit of quiet time for me sounds lovely though 

[jessmum46]

It doesn't work for everyone, it is scary I agree, but you can always go back to just letting her sleep . Just thinking some down time for you might be good with them both asleep xx

[Eva's Mummy]

I think I will try pushing her first 2 A times and shortening her BT A and if there is no improvement I will try the capped am nap. I like the idea of them both sleeping at the same time, it has worked by accident a couple of time so its worth a go.

[Eva's Mummy]

So 1 last ditch attempt before I switch to short am / long pm nap. Is there anything you can see that I cant? maybe longer to bt?

   
WU 7:30
A 3hrs 6mins
S 1hr 6mins
A 3hrs 13mins
S 39mins
A 3hrs
BT 18:34
NW 19:10 / 20:08 / 21:06 (self settled) /22:18 (fed)

WU 7:20
A 3hrs 20mins
S 2hrs mins
A 3hrs 17mins
S 49mins
A 2hrs 56mins
BT 19:42
NW 20:36 / 21:35 (fed)

WU 7:34
A 3hrs 19mins
S 1hr 57mins
A 3hrs 13mins
S 34mins
A 2hrs 45mins
BT 19:22
NW 21:55 / 1:05

WU 7:32
A 3hrs 18mins
S 2hrs
A 3hrs 30mins
S 45mins
A 2hrs 40mins
BT 19:44
NW 20:43 / 21:45 / 22:49 (fed) / 23:50 / 3:10 / 3:45

WU 7:42
A 3hrs 19mins
S 2hrs 4mins
A 3hrs 18mins
S 48mins
A 2hrs 46mins
BT 19:57
NW 20:46 / 23:18

WU 7:24
A 3hrs 19mins
S 1hr 58mins
A 3hrs 33min
S 51min
A 2hrs 45min
BT 19:50
NW 20:13 / 21:40 (fed) / 1:49 (fed) / 2:21

WU 7:31
A 3hrs 21min
S 2hrs
A 3hrs 24mins
S 39mins
A 2hrs 41mins
BT 19:36
NW 20:26 / 21:15 / 22:25 (fed) / 4:05 (fed)

WU 7:30
A 3hrs 19mins
S 1hr 24mins
A 3hrs 22mins
S 1hr
A 2hrs 48mins
BT 19:23
NW 20:15 / 21:15 / 1:46 (fed) / 4:05 (fed)

WU 7:31
A 3hrs 28mins
S 2hrs
A 3hrs 23mins
S 49mins      

[jessmum46]

I really don't think I can suggest much else, our days were very similar at that age with a longer morning sleep and short afternoon, albeit a long nap for us was 1h30 and As were longer.  I wouldn't think major OT looking on paper. But the NW pattern suggests OT somewhere.....

Have you tried a day of ignoring the clock and just putting down on cue?  I notice you are quite precise about timings (I get it most of us are a little obsessive ) but I wonder if perhaps stepping back a little to watch DD2 a bit more and the clock/A times a bit less may just help reset you both??

[Eva's Mummy]

Would you believe not a peep all night then woke at 5:30 I fed then back to sleep until I woke at 7:30.

She's a funny wee thing, nothing different at all. I'll just keep plodding along. I do think its those ENW's that have been throwing me thinking OT but possibly they are not. I'll hide the clock and see what happens.

I'll let you get on I know you have lots of posts and i'll pop on with a wee update if we have a big improvement. Thanks again for all your help and support Katherine its really appreciated x

[jessmum46]

no problem, good luck x

[Eva's Mummy]

Thanks honey.

Can I ask a quick question for today we were out and she didn't fall asleep in the car like I thought so she ended up having a 4hrs 35mins 1st A time then a 30mins nap.

WU 7:30
A 4hrs 35
S 12:05 - 12:35

What would you do with the rest of the day?

[jessmum46]

Sorry I missed this Hun, how did it go?