Author Topic: Bedtime struggles wiwo (Read 1935 times)

Chloevalentine · « **on:** May 12, 2015, 00:14:56 am »

My 22 month old ajways goes in the crib awake and it typically takes him about 30 mins sonetimes more to fall asleep but no crying or fussing. The past two nights we put him in crib 5 mins later Hes crying hysterically. Last night we wiwo for 1.5 hours! Tonight same thing although I only had to do it for 30 mins. Not sure what's going on all of a sudden. I just go in lay him down and put my hand on his chest telling him it's ok its time for bed and I leave the room. Then when I leave the room he starts up again so I give him a minute but he doesnt calm down so I go back in again and do it all over. Any suggestions ?

Shiv52 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 12, 2015, 07:13:28 am »

Hun I think you need to look at your routine. On your last thread I said that the fact he was going to bed and lying for so long wouldn't last and he'd eventually start getting upset as he's likely bored.

I think the need for the extra A time up and about has clicked in and you either need to make bedtime later or start cutting the nap xx

anna* · « **Reply #2 on:** May 12, 2015, 07:23:12 am »

It does sound like UT

cath~ · « **Reply #3 on:** May 12, 2015, 08:10:58 am »

I agree with PPs

We went through this (many times

) with L when I couldn't believe that she could possibly be UT, but she was. Capping the nap was what sorted out our BTs again. (Of course, another option is later BT).

Have you read this?
The 1-0 transition...Advice and Tips to help you through.

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #4 on:** May 12, 2015, 11:00:33 am »

Just when I finally figured out a good naptime to get a good nap! Lol ok so should I cap nap at 1 hr say 1-2? Then a 13 hr day 7-8? Should I be putting him into crib at 8 or 730 which is what I've been doing being that it takes him 30 mins to fall asleep? Is a 13 hr day good with an hour nap?

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #5 on:** May 12, 2015, 11:47:52 am »

I've always read that "Most parents find that their toddler’s natural bedtime falls sometime between 7 and 7:30 p.m." And that 10.5-11 hours is about average. He is doing about 10.5-11 hours at night and his nap is only 1 hr 15/30 mins which is not very long. Maybe U should just start with later bedtime. Putting him into his at 8 instead of 730 and starting bedime routine later at 730. Lately he always wakes up from nap nsp crying and cranky and it takes him a long time to come around so I'm worried about capping.

cath~ · « **Reply #6 on:** May 12, 2015, 12:01:09 pm »

With L we found she got more sleep overall if we capped her nap. Keeping a longer nap meant much shorter nights.

Having said that, many LOs don't like having their napped cap and so a shorter night works better. Some parents also prefer a longer nap and later BT. It can be a bit of trial and error finding what works best for you.

Quote from: Chloevalentine on May 12, 2015, 11:47:52 am

Maybe U should just start with later bedtime. Putting him into his at 8 instead of 730 and starting bedime routine later at 730.

Yes, this could definitely be a good place to start.

Let us know how you get on.

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #7 on:** May 12, 2015, 12:44:56 pm »

So how long should the nap be to keep bedtime if he's doing a 7/730-8/830 day? He wakes cranky anyway from nap now! Lol

anna* · « **Reply #8 on:** May 12, 2015, 13:18:46 pm »

My daughter had dropped her nap entirely by 26 months so at this stage was probably having around 45 mins. There's no magic formula, so I'd try capping at 1 hr for a week or so and sweet happens.

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #9 on:** May 12, 2015, 14:03:41 pm »

So would a 13 hour day be ideal with a 1 hr nap? 7 wake 1-2 nap 8 bed?

anna* · « **Reply #10 on:** May 12, 2015, 14:30:03 pm »

That's what I would try to start out.

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #11 on:** May 12, 2015, 18:05:21 pm »

But put him into bed at 8 to be asleep by 830?
I had to wiwo today at nap time which he always goes down easily for. He was half asleep befirehand in his highchair. I did have my mother over so he might've known she was still here and didn't want to go down and the 4th time I went in he had pooped so maybe that was it but he never went to sleep! I hope this isnt a new thing at bedtime and naptime. The wiwo a million times is exhausting! Now I'm not sure what time for bed?

anna* · « **Reply #12 on:** May 12, 2015, 18:11:07 pm »

I'd aim for asleep at 8pm.

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #13 on:** May 12, 2015, 18:19:35 pm »

So put him in crib normal time at 730? Are there any other suggestions besides going in laying him back down in crib stroking his head telling him it's time for bed and repeating 10 times if necessary? I think now he knows i will come back when he cries!

anna* · « **Reply #14 on:** May 12, 2015, 18:22:01 pm »

That's how Wiwo goes! Remember you don't have to calm him down just reassure him that you're nearby.

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #15 on:** May 12, 2015, 18:31:02 pm »

My husband thinks that he should stay in his room in chair but I don't think that's a good idea. I don't want to create any bad habits. This is a child who always fell asleep in his own. So do you think capping the nap from 1 hr 20 mins to 1 hr will really make a difference with bedtime?

anna* · « **Reply #16 on:** May 12, 2015, 18:33:46 pm »

Hun all you can do is try it and see. Right?

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #17 on:** May 13, 2015, 12:19:09 pm »

After no nap yesterday he fell asleep literally in my arms at 720 and woke today at 6 am!! I'm
Going to try for a 1230 uncapped nap and 8 into crib

Truly Blessed · « **Reply #18 on:** May 13, 2015, 12:38:28 pm »

Hiya,

The 1-0 can be a really tricky process right from the start I'm afraid

. I think the thing to remember is the the results of one day don't give you a conclusion, it's really important to do your best to stick with any plan, otherwise you tend to end up in no man's land with no idea what works, and for us, the inconsistency became chaotic and DS was all over the place YK

so I understand the 'want' to change things up to try and keep him happy on a daily basis, but ultimately this is the long hard route and less kind for him in the long run

. For sure it isn't easy but there are things you can do for eg: you say he is cranky upon being woken from his nap, so have something ready to distract him, like keeping a favourite food treat for this time of day, or having his favourite programme on the TV, distract distract distract.

WRT the method you use at night, I tend to start out with the minimum of interaction, then remember to listen and observe, trust your instincts at 'how' upset he is, and then act upon it.

I agree to shoot for this:

WU 7.00

Nap 1 until 2

BT 8.00

IIWM the time that he was put down would be up to observation also, so if he seems ready for bed at 7.15 for eg, then go with it in order to try for asleep by 7.30. If not do a longer WD and put him down a little later, again, go with your instincts by watching him.

Good luck! x.

Shiv52 · « **Reply #19 on:** May 13, 2015, 18:45:03 pm »

I agree with the others. I would think with the extra A time he shouldn't need 30 minutes to get to sleep so I'd aim for bed for 7.45 with aim of being asleep for 8. I'd say you'll find less bother with him settling the less UT he is.

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #20 on:** May 14, 2015, 00:01:18 am »

He went in for nap today at 1245 (with no crying no wiwo he just passed out instantly) after being up since 6 am which is a very long A time and woke screaming crying at 145 ( 1 hour nap) He was hysterical for over 30 mins straight! Something's bothering him I think might be teeth although his stomach has been off for a few days so maybe it's that. We put him in bed at 730 and he didn't cry fell asleep around 750! I'm thinking maybe the bedtime struggles were also due to teeth or his belly. I'm hoping for a normal wake up time tomorrow with a 1pm nap and into crib for 745/8 to be asleep by 815 ish

Truly Blessed · « **Reply #21 on:** May 14, 2015, 13:54:37 pm »

Hi Hun,

A bad tummy can be a side-effect of teething, so yes it very well could be relevant. Here is some info on why these two go together.

http://www.calorababy.co.za/baby/teething-and-upset-tummies.html

x.

Chloevalentine · « **Reply #22 on:** May 15, 2015, 03:14:27 am »

Thanks so much for all the tips. Today he woke at 645 ( seems to be back to 11 hours night sleep) nspped from 1-230 and I put him in crib at 8 a bit later and it still took him 30 mins to fall asleep but he didn't get upset no wiwo!! Kind of a long day though

Truly Blessed · « **Reply #23 on:** May 15, 2015, 08:43:16 am »

Well it's not much over 13 hours Hun, so that's a good result

I hope it continues, good luck.x.

Shiv52 · « **Reply #24 on:** May 15, 2015, 08:51:33 am »

Yeah it's a tough balance isn't it. With my DD1 I didn't mind the longer day as we only had her and it gave my DH some time with her and I loved the nap. With DD2 I couldn't be bothered as DD1 was going to bed at 7.30 and it drove me nuts to have her up to DD2 but then the nap had to go.

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