Persistant ENW's

[Eva's Mummy]

Oh dear. Well I've not heard a thing from her all night and she is still sleeping 

[jessmum46]

Hooray!!

[Eva's Mummy]

I know. I feel amazing getting all that sleep.  I woke her at 8 that's 11hrs 45mins sleep, she would definitely have slept more.

Now a plan of action, I think we need a decent push but I don't want BT being later than 8.

Started doing 3hrs 45 1st a but going to push to 4 on Monday.  So what
Would my day look like.  I can wake her anytime in the morning it's usually 7:30 but 7 would be fine too.

[Eva's Mummy]

If I  post our last few days do you think one of you ladies could help me with a new routine.

[jessmum46]

Happy to

[Eva's Mummy]

Thanks honey x

17/6/15

WU 7:33
A 3hrs 44 mins
S 11:17 – 12:44 (1hr 27mins)
A 3hrs 34mins
S 16:20 – 17:00 (40mins)
A 2hrs 46mins
BT 19:46
NW 20:30, 21:10, 22:20, 3:10

WU 7:35
A 4hrs 10mins (nodded in car for 5 mins at 10)
S 11:45 – 13:13 (1hr 28mins)
A 3hrs 15mins
S 16:28 – 17:00 (32mins)
A 2hrs 45mins
BT 19:45
NW 20:30 , 21:11, 22:30, 5:30

WU 7:34
A 4hrs 3mins (nodded in car for 5 mins at 10:30)
S 11:37 – 12:12 (35mins)
A 2hrs 54mins
S 15:06 – 16:46 (1hr 40mins)
A 3hrs 29mins
BT20:15

WU 8:00
A 3hrs 45mins
S 11:45 – 13:25 (1hr 40mins)
A 3hrs 22mins
S 16:47 – 17:23 (36mins)
A 3hrs 25mins (couldn’t get her to sleep)
BT 20:48
NW 21:48 , 22:46, 23:50, 4:40

WU 7:00

[*Liz*]

Looks like early evening OT wake-ups. Bet you have tried it - but it looks to me like you need a short am/ long pm approach instead. I did that with DD, and although it takes a few weeks for their body to settle into it, it really does stop the bedtime OT I think.

[Eva's Mummy]

Well now.  Yesterday we did exactly that.

WU 7:00
A 3hrs 45
S 45mins
A 3hrs
S 2hrs
A 3hrs 30
BT

We had 1 quick resettle at 22:30 then she sttn  That's a 1hr day, where do we go from there. Is it cap the first nap and pull the 2nd A back a bit?

[*Liz*]

Yes - you want the first nap as early as you think she will go for it - hopefully she will wake herself from a UT 45 min nap but otherwise you wake at the transition as it usually means a less grumpy baby. Then pull back the second A (usually by about 30 mins) and hope for a long nap.

I'm almost certain that is the better approach for most LOs - some just won't do it - but if they will it gets you the lovely lunchtime nap you know they need iyswim?

[Eva's Mummy]

Ah right,  I was pushing her 1st a out then she was really tired for her 2nd nap. I'll try 3hrs 30 for the 1st 1 today then and see if she goes down ok.

Dd1 would never do a good selection on nap so we were long am short pm so I guess that's why we just stuck to it as she would happily take a long am nap.  But yeah dd2 seems much happier getting a longer afternoon nap. Just  needs a wee bit of tweaking I think.

Thanks liz x

[jessmum46]

Sorry to be slow getting back hun but agree with Liz xx

[Eva's Mummy]

No problem at all honey. I think I need tweaking.  We did 3hrs 30 first a and she went down no problem.  She was fast asleep when I woke her after 45mins and getting grumpy early but I pushed for 3hrs a time. I woke after 1hr 45mins to preserve by.  Then did BT 3hrs 30 mins later. She took a while to get to sleep then we have already had a enw after 45mins. 

What a time should I adjust a bit do you think? 

[*Liz*]

I would stick with the times you have for 3 days or so and see how that settles. Let her body clock get used to it. Sounds Like that final A will be perhaps 3 hrs as well.

But given it is a big change I would give it a bit.

[Eva's Mummy]

I think she's really tired. 1hr night is not enough for her. We moved from 3hrs 45 first a to 3hrs 30 and today was a tad earlier still and she is shattered when I wake her. She pulls her wee blankie over her face and cries. Then 3hrs to 2nd nap and she does the same when I wake her after 2 hrs sleep. She is unhappy for the last a time and cries at BT then needs resttling every hour until around 11. Then 2 more nw's.  I think I may need to pull back all my a times?

[*Liz*]

Perfectly possible honey. Just give it a go - can't hurt. 9/10 I shorten A times before lengthening just to make sure.