Persistant ENW's

[Eva's Mummy]

We got to 3hrs 30 mins 2nd a and that got 1hr 25 mins Nap so I may need to push more as I think  she needs a longer nap to cope.  I'm happy with allow more than 2hrs It was just so both bt's don't clash but if I know what my 2nd a is I can adjust wu for that.

What one do you think would get a better night sleep with less nw's x

[Eva's Mummy]

Tried again today.

WU 7:10
A 3hrs 10 mins
S 30 mins  ( capped)
A
Put down at 2hrs 40 mins and shes been sittings up quietly playing in her cot, its now 3hrs 5mins and she's just nodded off after I went in gave her a wee cuddle and lay her down again.

So is she UT and yesterday was a blip?

[jessmum46]

I wouldn't tweak on the basis of two days.  Probably best to stick with it a week and then re-evaluate xx

[Eva's Mummy]

We are back again.

Well we have settled into a routine and no longer getting enw but we are having 3 nw's. 

WU 7
A 3hrs 5 mins
S 30 mins
A 3hrs to 3hrs 10mins
S 1hr 25 - 2hrs
A 3hrs 20 mins
BT

NW''S always around 10 then 12/1 then 4/5

Any suggestions.  She's more mobile and when I go to her she's always crammed at the side or bottom of the cot.

[Eva's Mummy]

Could she be hungry. She took a full 7oz bottle last night cos I  couldn't settle her at 22:30 then slept all night.  Her dinner is usually around 4ish.

[Eva's Mummy]

Argh. I thought I would add 10 mins to get a before BT to see if that would help. Usually I put her down she has a wee chat for 5-10 mins then she goes to sleep.  Tonight she just couldn't get over, I've had to go in and really rock her to get her settled it's now 4hrs 5mins a time so I guess it was too much for her.

Maybe I should try pushing the middle a and keeping BT shorter?

[jessmum46]

Does she need you every time she NWs?  Just thinking when we had that 3hrly kind of pattern to NWs it was because of habit feeds.....

[Eva's Mummy]

Shes already woke tonight. Unconsilable screaming, arching her back, gasping for breath through thr cries ad only milk settled her just 2oz. Now an hour later she has woke again but self settled. Later in the night i leave her a while but go on if she gets louder .  She also wakes around 5:30 every morning but self settled then every time.

I admit I do feed her even a couple of Oz often. It's been almost a year since I got to sleep through the night and sometimes all in want to do is get back to bed as soon as possible  x

[Dino44]

At almost 10 months we do capped first nap and longer pm nap. LO tends to STTN but sometimes wakes at 5.30am for the day (too early!). I'll post our routine in case it helps at all as I was shocked at how long we need our last awake to be and how short we need our middle awake to be until we'd played around a bit. We so set naps regardless of wakeup (in an attempt to help EMW!) so the first nap isn't too early.

WU (anytime between 5.30-7 generally)
Nap 9.45-10.15
Nap 1-3
Bedtime 6.45/7

HTH x

[Eva's Mummy]

Thanks honey. I don't think she would nap after such a short middle a time.  We don't have ew's so she isn't just as tired.

She's started crying (screaming) 5 to 15 mins into her first nap so I need to go and settle her. And my once lie her down and leave her at BT is now needing settled after about 15 mins of her trying to sleep
 I think cos she's moving about so much now she keeps getting stuck in corners. Lots of bum patting through the night and 1 feed now.  Just not sure what to change I do think I feel a big lump where her top left molar might be coming in.

[jessmum46]

Ugh teeth, don't talk to me about them  do meds make a difference to her settling?

[Eva's Mummy]

No difference at all and she is well medicated x

[Eva's Mummy]

Horrible horrible night. She was up almost every hour. Even milk wouldn't settle her and when she didn't need me she was still moaning most of the night.

[jessmum46]

Hugs Gail sounds just like B when teething, his molars were rough even with meds...

[Eva's Mummy]

I think last night confirmed teeth to me
 Eva was the oposire teething, stopped eating and dribbled something awful but slept great until 5 then there was no chance getting her back to sleep. Ella eats fine,  no dribbling but won't sleep at all at night. It's rough isn't it, and if I remember right canines were worse 😢 xx