Help with 3 to 2 transition (now 2-1 transition!)

[LittleSplasherMum]

Well we had an ok weekend for once!  cough seems gone, naps were a bit funny on Friday (only 40 mins in the morning  ), then Saturday swimming, so he only slept an hour for am nap then pm nap 25 mins! Despite this, he slept well last night, woke at 5.40 (bt was 7.15), fussed a bit, then slept till 6.55 
Today am nap: 10.20- 11.40 (had to wake him as we were going out for lunch)
pm nap in buggy: 3.05-3.40ish, bt 7.15ish

I think it's going well, I loooove having set times for naps and bt!! 

[Kellyjs]

So glad hun, I loved them too! It just makes everything easier doesn't it? It's also great hell nap out and about in the buggy too so you don't have to race home. That will come in useful when you have to apop the nap later on down the line 

I think it does show we've got the balance right with the naps especially as he can pull a long night after short naps. All I can say is yay!! Xx

[LittleSplasherMum]

I know it's early days, but we've got him down to start nursery at the end of September for two mornings a week, 8 till 1 and I'm already wondering what to do about the morning nap  he will be able to have a nap there, but surely it'll be much later than 10.15 by then, dyt? shall I just wait and see where we are at the beginning of September?

[Kellyjs]

A lot will change between now and September hun. Also, you may find it'll take a while for him to nap there, many have a few issues at the start. It might be that he has a short nap there in the morning of 15-20mims or so and you can get him home for his longer nap in the afternoon. It will also depend if the nursery have set nap times that we have to work around too xx

[LittleSplasherMum]

I guess we'll wait and see... I'd better enjoy this consistency while it lasts!  xx

[LittleSplasherMum]

Well the last two days have been:

Monday
wu: 6   
nap 1: 10.10- 11.20 
nap 2: 3.05-3.55 (let him sleep a bit longer since the shorter am na, then woke him)
bt:7.10  (woke crying at 11pm, but could be because he accidentally turned on his musical toy)

Today
wu: 6.30  (stirred a bit at 5 but back to sleep quite quickly)
nap 1:10.15-11.20 
nap 2: 2.45 (fell asleep in pushchair, then home put him in cot at 2.50)- still sleeping

I  might be wrong but I can see his two top teeth through his gums (but not coming through yet), he has been a bit more clingy than usual, so I wonder if I should let him sleep for an hour? I will wake him at 3.45max and see what happens. If we have a bad evening/night, won't do it again.

[Kellyjs]

Teething could definitely be play there hun. I'd try medicating 20mins before the nap,with ibuprofen and see if that helps. See how the longer nap goes, we can but try xx

[LittleSplasherMum]

Yes, will do. I did give him Calpol before bt now, so will see if it helps. I need to get some ibuprofen, we don't have any, only paracetamol. Went down well at 7.10 

[Kellyjs]

Yay, ibuprofen works sooo much better for teeth hun, problem is you can only give once every 6hrs. Can top up with Calpol in between though xx

[LittleSplasherMum]

We had two very good days yesterday and today (so far)!

Yesterday:
wu:6.15
nap 1: 10.15-11.45 (woke him)
nap 2: 3.05-3.45
bt: 7.15,  only nw at 4.45, talked to himself for a bit, then asleep on his own.

Today:
wu: 6.50 
nap 1: 10.18- 11.48
nap 2: 3.05-3.35

I haven't given him any drugs as he seems fine, guess no teeth yet  So, we've been doing the set naps and bt for a week or so now, I think it's going well overall. He's definitely sleeping longer in the morning, we had a whole week with wus later than 6am! I don't think we had that for a couple of months! could be because he's very mobile at the moment, but the routine is definitely working, alleluia!

How long do you think I should keep these set times for? Until it stops working?xx

[Kellyjs]

That's excellent hun. Love that wu, and just to,think we started with 5am WU's!!

 Yep, I'd keep as is until the first nap starts shortening on it's own. You may have EW again, but as teeth are on their way EW can be because of that too so we don't want to move the nap if it's because of teething yk.

You may find he starts refusing the pm nap, when he does this more often than not, that's when we start pushing that first A lots!!

Got to love set naps and BT! We'll keep with that when we eventually move him to one nap too as it obviously suits you both  xx

[LittleSplasherMum]

Hello! I'm back to pester you again 

Lo is 11 months tomorrow!  I think he's starting to fight the pm nap... the last few weeks have been very good (apart from a night away which was a disaster!). For the last week I have pushed everything 15 mins later, so  our routine is like this:

wu: between 6 and 6.30

- nap1: 10.30 (either 1.10h or I wake him at 1.30h, I tried to work out how and why he sleeps more some days and less others, but not a clue)
- nap2: 3.15 (either 30 mins or I wake him at 40/45 depending on how the first nap went)
- bt: 7.15 and asleep by 7.25/30

I'm going to give it another couple of days to settle, then I'll be back for advice I think! Is the next step to push the first nap later by 15mins or so? do I push the pm nap as well then but cut it shorter? xx

[Kellyjs]

Hiya, welcome back! You kept that going quite a while actually, I was expecting to hear from you sooner 

2 things you can do now hun just as you said, 1 is push that first A another 15mins, but also cap the pm nap to 15mims so your day doesn't get too long. Adding on an extra few mins befor the CN might help him take it, but there's no guarantee he'll just wake up grumpy after the longer A and shorter sleep.

So something like this:

Wu 6/6.30
Nap 1 10.45-12.15
Nap 2 3.45-4
BT 7/7.15

That last A night be a little long on a 15 mins CN, we might have to tweak that one and see xx

[LittleSplasherMum]

haha, I jus looked at the date of my last post, nearly three weeks ago!

Actually today things were still fine, although I think teething is on its way, I finally saw a bit of white on the top gums  I  forgot to say that last night we had quite a bit of crying at bt, he kept standing up and not wanting to go to sleep, then he woke this morning at 5.35  I did manage to get him back to sleep (to my disbelief) at around 6.30 and he slept till 7.20. Then nap at 10.30, bit of crying again, then had to wake him after 1.30h. I gave him Calpol in the afternoon and he went down ok at 3.25, let him sleep till 4.10. BT was fine (phew), after more Calpol, went down no problems at 7.30ish.
I think I'll hold off until the teeth come through. Do you think I should not waking him up because of the teething like when he's sick?

[LittleSplasherMum]

Just on the off chance you are online this morning, I have a dilemma  We had an incredible wu at 7.20!! no nws, nothing 
do I put him down later for his morning nap? or stick to 10.30 and he'll probably won't sleep 1.30h... I think I'll try at least 10.45, this afternoon he'll be in the pushchair for a while so I'm hoping for a cn there, could do with a decent nap this morning...