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wonky morning nap of almost 7 months old
« on: June 24, 2015, 17:46:41 pm »
Hi there! Need some advice on tweaking an almost 7 months old routine.

Last week she was doing pretty consistent 2 hour awake time between wakeup and first nap and napped for 1.5 hrs without a peek. Then one day I tried  35 min of pupd for the first nap still couldn't get her down.  I ended up pick her up and restarted again after 20 minutes. She napped for 45 min and awake.  Since then her naps are all weird. I tried extend her awake time to 2.5 hrs before the first nap but still resulting in 20, 30 or 40 min naps. If I nursed her she would nap for another 45 min but if I rock or pupd she will just be wide awake.  Today I tried going back to 2 hr awake time, same thing 30 min nap. She always act sleepy and fussy just before 2 hrs awake time.

Yesterday
E 8:00
E 9:00 solid food
S 10:30-11:10(nursed back to sleep)-12:00

E 12:00 (fall asleep when nursing, woke her after nursed)
S 3:10-4:00

E 4:00
E 5:30 solid food
E 6:45
S  7:30 (day 2 of pupd)

NW 8:15
NW 12:30
NW 2:45 several pupd til 3:15

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Re: wonky morning nap of almost 7 months old
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2015, 18:25:53 pm »
Definitely more A time needed hun. The fact she's  fighting the nap is a prime indicator. 2hrs is a little low on the A time for a nearly 7mo, many are nearing 2hr 45 or 3hrs by now. Saying that too, 3.5hrs to BT is quite a long A there, especially after a 50mins nap, I'm thinking just a better balance to your day might help things out? Wdyt?

Seems there's some early NW's there too which could signal OT before BT.

Perhaps look at extending that first A to 2hrs 45mins which is 15mims than you were doing before? And see how that pans out? Be interesting to see what length of nap she takes there. Also increase the second one by 15mins too.

Then I would reduce that last A to 3hrs max. This may need reducing a little more as we increase the other A times, but I think this is a good place to start. Wdyt? Xx



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Re: wonky morning nap of almost 7 months old
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2015, 03:52:58 am »
Thanks for the advice, Kellyjs!

She fighted for the nap that morning because I started to pupd for the first time.  She doesn't fight on other days, usually fell asleep in 15 min.  This is why I am very confused, should I keep that 2 hr awake time (since 5.5 months) or should I move on to the extended to closer to 3 hrs?

For the BT, I started pupd after 3 hrs awake and spent 30 min pupd, that's why it ended up with 3.5 hrs.  I think her problem is being so random.  Her awake time has been very random since 4 months (she was on and off pooped awake early for 2 months), ranging from 6-8am.  Right now I am trying to keep her wake up time between 7-7:30am, but short naps messed up the schedule.

Today

E 7:10
E 8:00 solid
S 9:25 (fell asleep in 10 min)-10:03

E 10:15
S 12:10 (fell asleep in 15 min)-1:40

E 1:40 (back to sleep while nursing)
S 2:00-2:45

E 5:30 solid and 1oz bm in sippy
Bath 6:00
E 6:20
S 6:52 (pdpd 3 times, fell asleep in 12 minutes)

NW 8:10 (cried, but fell back to sleep herself)

Today is a bit special cuz I have to take her with me to pick up her brother from school at 3pm but hubby won't come home until 6pm


She has always been the higher end on A time except the first awake time in the morning.  And she also tends to jump a big chunk (+20-30 min rather than gradually 5 min at a time) when need to increase A time.

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Re: wonky morning nap of almost 7 months old
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2015, 07:41:42 am »
Excellent, good to know see can handle the jump, I'd just be wary of pushing too much too fast just for the sake of finding out what works. Gives us a chance to see if she'll settle into the new A times. My DD is exactly the opposite, can handle massive A in to he morning but the afternoon is a no go  ;)

Let's try the 2hrs 45mims for a couple of days and see ok? She may need to be closer to 3hrs or even more, but if think that's a good starting point. A lot of LO's can learn their A times which is why they seem to go down better at earlier A times, rather than a little later. My DD was like that,  I thought she was getting second wind because of OT, but no, it's just she pushed through her usual time expected to sleep and could then go a lot longer than I thought. Confusing I know!

I definitely think that last A to BT is too long especially after a short nap, which is probably why you got the OT NW. We can do some tweaking to get that right. I would've tried for BT after 2.5hrs, but that's just me... I'm so wary of OT before BT!

I would try this then, to make my ramblings a little clearer  ;). It's always hard to write these as I don't want you to think you've not done something right if the day doesn't go exactly  like this. It's just a good routine to strive for, but many don't and won't fit into this mould ok?

Wu 7
A 2h 45
Nap 1 9.45-11.15 (hopefully)
A 2hr 45 (even if you get a short nap for nap 1 as I think she can handle it)
Nap 2 2-3.30
A 3hrs (only if nap 2 is good ie over an hour)
BT 6.30 with asleep by 6.45

As I said, I think this will need some tweaking, especially as the day is a little short atm with the routine I posted above. But this will only be for the short term as I think she'll be ready to increase again in a few days. I would just like to see how she does with this. Wdyt? Doable with family life? X




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Re: wonky morning nap of almost 7 months old
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2015, 03:15:44 am »
Thank you!
Today I brought her out after breakfast and she doesn't seem as fussy as the normal her at the 2 hr mark, so I guess this is a good sign for extending the first A time. But I couldn't keep her up for 2 hr 45 min before the second nap as she was super fussy at that point.

Today
E 6:45
E 8:00 solid
S 9:40-10:30

E 11:00
S 1:00-2:35

E 2:35
E 5:15 solid
BT 6:15 S 6:55

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Re: wonky morning nap of almost 7 months old
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2015, 08:11:36 am »
That looks good, how did the night go? I'm still thinking that A to BT might be a tad too long, but I'm sure it'll all even out soon.

A change of scenery works wonders for extending A time, well done you! X




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Re: wonky morning nap of almost 7 months old
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2015, 18:11:49 pm »
Unfortunately hubby usually won't get home until 6:30, so I am working towards a 7pm BT.  Last night was not too bad, couple night wakings but they were fairly quick.

6/25

E 6:45
E 8:00 solid
S 9:40-10:30

E 11:00
S 1:00-2:30(nursed til 3)

E 2:30
E 5:15 solid and bottle
B 6:15
E 6:30
S 6:55 (pupd 3, 10 min pd awake)

7:00 cried. Shush and use voice only. Didn't pickup.
7:35 pu 1
8:50 pu 2 probably too hot
4:15 pu 1
4:40 pu 1
4:45 pu 1
E 5:00 kind of wide awake. Nursed for full 20 minutes before fell back to sleep


I suppose she was hungry at the 4am wakings. Should I nurse her at that time?

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Re: wonky morning nap of almost 7 months old
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2015, 07:39:10 am »
You could do hun and try and see if that helps? Chances are she is if BF and there's no other NF's. X