11 month old crawling in her Crib

[lauraims]

Yes she's getting six at once and now has a cold 😣 she's not even eating much at the moment. Put her to bed early. 5.30. But the night was pretty rough. Wake ups at 8, 1.30 and 4.30. Really hard to resettle. Going to take her to doc today to get her checked over.
How do you go about pushing A times when they're teething, sick and OT?

[deb]

You don't.  You will find  it much easier if you wait til she's feeling better. 

[Kellyjs]

Unfortunately as deb said, you have to go with the flow a little when they're poorly. Usually they might sleep more in total except for all the yucky WU's with stuffed noses etc. I know I need more sleep when I'm poorly. They're just the same.

Vaporub on the soles of the feet works wonders here. Some put socks over the top, but we use sleeping bags so didn't bother. I don't know why it works, it just does! Hope she feels better soon. Once she's better, we can look at tweaking again hun x

[lauraims]

Thanks Luv. She's better now. Morning naps fine. 1.5 hours. Afternoon nap horrific!! I've been aiming for 3.45 awake time like you say. But she fights and fights, like her eyes are almost closed so many times. And then she ends up staying up. 5 hours sometimes. In bed fighting for over an hour. Or she doesn't go to sleep at all. What's up with it ??!!!!!  I'm going nuts 😭😭😭😭

[deb]

11 months was when Josie hit separation anxiety. It's also when she went to one nap, come to think of it....

[Mariellamom]

Sorry, Laura, didn't see the messages here.
I think we had this craziness for 2-3 weeks until I decided to all for advice here and we went to 4-5 hrs A time and 2/1 transition. It was much easier to focus on one nap and do a CN with APOP. Just like yours,  my back was killing me and my nerves were not ready for that at all ; )
After I pushed A times really far, she was exhausted and didn't fight the nap.  DD also had a cold,  so I went with the flow, but kept extending her A time after I saw she was fighting her nap.
That was one of the most stressful times. Even though all first 8,5 months we were super sleep deprived...

[lauraims]

Hey Ohla. Thanks !! Yeah I for sure think she's almost ready for just 1 nap. She managed 4.15 first Wt yesterday. 1.5hr nap. Although I had to put a hand on her back at the 30 min mark. I've noticed at the 30/35 and 1.10 Mark she goes to sit up. But she's not ready to wake. This only since I've been extending a times. So I guess I'll keep doing this until she transitions on her own. Got an afternoon nap yesterday after 4.15 a time. Is it quite normL to have to APOP the 2nd nAp in this transition period? She's actually doing a bit better at night now. With only 1 quick wake at 4.30. I still feed her then though 😁really need to stop that soon. Although it's not a habit wake as it's not always at the same time.

[lauraims]

Ohla, it looks like our dd's Are the same age! 11months 12 days here. What's your routine like at the moment ?

[Mariellamom]

Oh yes, I didnt realize they are the same age
DD changed her routine in the last 2 days
Before that for 3-4 weeks we had 13 hrs nights!
Now something like this:
7:30-8:00 WU
BF
Solids
Snack, BF before the nap
13:00 nap after 5:30 A time
14:15-14:20 A time
Lunch
18:30 E
Bath
19:30 BT ( normally I don't go longer than 4:30 A time before bed)
Last 7 days she doesn't wake up in the night. Before that was up to BF at 4:30. Dropped on her own!!!
What is your routine ? Or you posted it earlier here?

[lauraims]

Hi there! Sorry haven't been on in a while.
Well we attempted your routine Kellyjs, the morning nap originally was 1.5 hours - but that only lasted about a week.  It then went to 1.10/1.15 again.  I have found that her morning WT is 4.5 hours, as of the last two days.  The afternoon nap is a disaster!!!! Some days she doesn't fight it but most days since I first posted this thread it has been such a mission to get her down.
Today I have attempted a 1 nap day - as I am really tempted to just go for it.  But Im thinking because she went to bed early. 5.40pm - she will wake early.  The last couple of weeks whilst she's been on two.  She has been going to bed at around 7/7.30 and we're still having unsettled sleep from 3.30/4 onwards until she wakes up.   Her front teeth are now through.  She will be 1 at the end of next week.

Today went as follows
NW at 3.45
NW at 5.50
WU - 7.10
Nap - 11.30 - 1.10 (1hr40mins) -I had to put a firm hand on her back at the 30min mark and the 1.10min mark.
BT - 5.40

So as you can see - 4.5 hours WT is required for her to go down without too much of a fight. 
My issue is - as she went to bed early - she will wake up early - and then a 1 nap routine won't work. 
How do you suggest I go about this...? 
I'm also struggling to come up with a feeding routine to fit in with these longer A times.

Looking back - on one of her horrible afternoons where she did a 1.40 am nap - and completely resisted afternoon nap - she was awake 5 hours - but slept through 12.5 hours - the first time in weeks and weeks!  That was about 3 weeks ago now though. 

Her awake times have extended out so quickly!!!!!

[deb]

We went thru a period of time where some days were 1 nap, some days were 2 naps, and some days were one good nap & a catnap; eventually it settled out with about 5 hours A time morning, nap of 90 minutes or so, and another 5 hours to bedtime for the night. She didn't *always* wake early when she went to bed early; that did happen sometimes, and then the next day we tried for a catnap in addition to the regular nap.

[lauraims]

Well would you look at that. She slept 11:5 hours straight through. She for sure is ready for just 1? She woke early though at 5.15. Tried to resettle but no go and fair enough too ! So I'm thinking I'll definiteLy have to do a 30 min catnap late arvo. Damn Im wondering if she likes long A to bed..

[Kellyjs]

Same here, we had to switch between one and two naps for a while.

Oh and don't forget there's a massive ww at 1yo. For some it means less sleep for a while whilst they work through their developmental stuff, for others, all of a sudden they need more sleep. I was amazed. DD actually slept 12-hrs overnight and 2.5hr naps for around a couple of weeks at that age!, didn't last though 

What you do have to remember during these transitions is how much sleep they used to have yk? So if usually she had a 1.5hr nap and a 45mims nap with 10/11hr ONS, it would be kind of unrealistic to expect a 14-hr night after a 1.5hr nap. Sometimes they do surprise you, but it doesn't last. So in those instances you have to expect an early wu the next morning. For these I apop'd a car nap for 15mims at 9am just to let her through to just after her usual nap time. Then BT could then be slightly later that day. Does that make sense? Seems I'm in a rambling mood today  xx

You could consider popping by this thread too?  I found it really helpful when we were going through the 2-1. Helps when others are in the same boat.. I just directed another lovely lady I'm helping there too Anyone want to talk about the 2-1 transition #27

[lauraims]

Ok thanks Luv. Whilst on two naps she was doing 14-14.5. So yesterday's total was 13. I was going with a 30 min Catnap after 4.5 A late this arvo. Then bedtime soon after. Do you advise the morning catnap ? I just find it hard knowing what A time to do afterwards. Thanks I'll have a look at that thread

[lauraims]

I might try APOP it at 4 hrs WT though. I guess it's pretty common to have to APOP the second one from now on ?