Author Topic: Mommy is going insane (Read 3421 times)

Naube · « **on:** November 15, 2015, 18:35:28 pm »

I can't get my almost 5 month old to sleep anymore. Up to this point ds has been falling asleep on his own, I went through this with his sister and I wasn't going to always help my son go to sleep like I did with his sister, mostly because he isn't breastfed and I just don't have the time or help with a toddler around.

Up too the 4 month regression ds would fall asleep on his own and sleep through the night for 12+ hours often 15 hours and have two good long naps after 2 hours of being awake. Now when he's showing signs of sleep I go put him down and all he does is scream and he's awake once or twice a night. By the time I get him down for his first nap it's time to get up. He's schedule was.

W:8:00
N: 10:00
W:11:00
N:1:00
W:3:00
N:4:30
Bed:6:30

Sometimes he would nap until 430 and we would skip the last nap. Now he hardly gets that nap or any decent nap as he's not going down very nicely and it takes me a hour+ to get him to stop crying and go to sleep. I'm at my wits end as I have had to let him cry lots because I have other children and after a half hour I feel defeated and no longer know what to do to get him to go to sleep. He's not in a saddle as he rolls and he needs to sleep on his stomach as per the doctor. Please Help.

deb · « **Reply #1 on:** November 15, 2015, 19:19:07 pm »

Any chance of wearing him in a sling or carrier? That's what I ended up resorting to w/#2.

Martini~ · « **Reply #2 on:** November 15, 2015, 21:26:57 pm »

Honey and what routine do you follow now? Do you still keep 2h awake time? After 4mo sleep regression there is a need to cut his sleep and increase A time because it will impact settling and nights.

Naube · « **Reply #3 on:** November 16, 2015, 06:20:35 am »

I do baby wear but he rarely falls asleep, maybe I should try right around nap time to get him to settle.

I have him on 2h awake, is it normal at 5 months to be longer than that, is it possible that he's needing 2.5 to 3.0 wake time? I know his naps aren't long enough because he wake with bags and screaming. With my daughter I would just nurse her to keep her asleep longer but it's not an option this time around.

I'm getting up earlier tomorrow going to see what an earlier wake time does because I'm absolutely going insane. Tonight he got up at 11 ready to party and it was a fight to get him down for both naps. He use to be so simple all I had to do was sing a song but his white noise on and walk out and he would do the fake cry for a minute or so and he was out.

Martini~ · « **Reply #4 on:** November 16, 2015, 06:36:41 am »

You definitely may assume that LO needs more than 2h which is more suitable for a 4mo. At 5-6mo many LOs are going towards 2 naps a day so their awake time is increasing once again. If he is doing 2h now, even 2:15 or 2:30 will make a higher difference for him - you don't have to go for full 3h.

Have you seen the link with average A times in FAQ here! I am on my phone so it's difficult to quote but if you don't don't it, I will paste it later.

Naube · « **Reply #5 on:** November 16, 2015, 17:17:22 pm »

this mornings routine:

A:7:15 - I pump and Owen plays in his crib
E:7:45
A:8:45 jolly jumper/ play with sister
A:9:05 floor time
Put down : 9:10 he was yawning
9:45: gave remaining bottle to total 10 oz milk. Can't get him to settle and he wouldn't eat all his bottle this morning
10:15 talking/ whimpering in his crib, slowly settling.

I don't know what time I should wake him, he should be asleep in the next 5 mins. I want to get rid of this not eating and hour long trying to get to sleep as I hate letting my daughter watch that much tv,

Martini~ · « **Reply #6 on:** November 16, 2015, 19:18:53 pm »

It would be better Honey if you change A time gradually, like 15min more every 3 days. How today went? He was probably a bit overtired with such long A and maybe that's why couldn't settle.

Naube · « **Reply #7 on:** November 16, 2015, 19:39:05 pm »

That was my today. It took me a hour to get him to settle and I think he's going to go down easy for the next nap.

Martini~ · « **Reply #8 on:** November 16, 2015, 21:29:09 pm »

Keeping fingers crossed:)!

Naube · « **Reply #9 on:** November 16, 2015, 21:32:51 pm »

Well he slept for 40 minutes. It took him less than 5 mins to settle but it may be my fault as I let him sleep in swing and he sometimes has issues sleeping in his back. But I think 2:20 mins might be the magic number.

Martini~ · « **Reply #10 on:** November 16, 2015, 21:41:56 pm »

Will be waiting for your update tomorrow:).

Naube · « **Reply #11 on:** November 30, 2015, 14:59:42 pm »

I don't know what's gone wrong, I have finally gotten ds to go to sleep with less crying now instead of taking hours to put to sleep. He's staying up about 3 hours anything else he just screams until he's been up for about 3 hours. And he won't sleep for more than 40 minutes most times. I feel like my 2 year old sleeps more in the day than my little one. now he's awake every two- three hours a night. I'm back at a loss again.

Last night I gavehin a bottle at 11before bed, he woke up at 2, I managed to put him back to sleep for him to wake up again at 3 and up again at 4. I really can't function like this and I'm at a complete loss what to do with this kid.

deb · « **Reply #12 on:** November 30, 2015, 15:10:21 pm »

He was up till 11 last night? If so, he's likely very very OT.

Are you giving him a dream feed? Also, have you tried Wake2Sleep?

becj86 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 30, 2015, 19:32:27 pm »

Can you write out your full day, including the night? Remind me how old he is now?

Naube · « **Reply #14 on:** November 30, 2015, 19:50:35 pm »

I did a dream feed in hopes he would sleep longer instead it did the opposite. What's wake2sleep?

5.5 months
A:8
S:10:30
A: 11:15
S: 1:30
A:300
B:630

becj86 · « **Reply #15 on:** November 30, 2015, 20:30:41 pm »

Ok, so general rule of thumb is that a 45min nap is UT - I'd try increasing that first A time by ~15 minutes and see what happens. It well within the realms of normal to have a baby on 3hr A time at 6 months, so 2:45 is totally reasonable at 5.5 months. He may well even need more given he's having a 13.5hr night (totally normal for a baby this age to have 2 night feeds in an 11-12hr night).

Dream feed has to be within the time 3-4hr from BT or it will disturb sleep rather than help it.

Was that 10oz bottle a bottle of EBM? Just wondering as that is a LOT of milk - he may not be drinking that much because he doesn't need it. http://kellymom.com/bf/pumpingmoms/pumping/milkcalc/

deb · « **Reply #16 on:** November 30, 2015, 21:35:24 pm »

Oh, I see, the 11PM was before YOU went to bed! (This is what happens when there isn't enough coffee here. LOL)

Wake2Sleep - really Wake To Sleep, but we often abbreviate it W2S here - means that partway through a sleep cycle that a baby might normally wake at the end of (even though you know he needs to KEEP sleeping!

), you rouse him just a little bit, just enough that he stirs in his sleep but doesn't wake. It sometimes "re-sets" the sleep cycles and can be useful for breaking a cycle of short sleeps or habitual wakings. There's probably a more detailed how-to link someplace - Mods, can you find?

Naube · « **Reply #17 on:** November 30, 2015, 22:41:30 pm »

He is 13ish hours at night but that's not including the amount of time he is waking up, as he's waking up every 2-3 hours at night now. From 2.5 months-4 months he was sleeping 15 hours a night with no wake ups and now its all the time. And prior to 2.5 months he usually only woke up 1 time a night pretty much since he was new. i will try the dream feed at 3 hours tonight.

Yes 10 oz is a lot, it was half bm and half formula. He keeps eating a lot during the afternoon. My mom thinks he's starting to teeth so that might be our issue.

I'll try the w2s Wednesday if this still aren't going well, he's at grandmas tomorrow and Wednesday my toddler is at grandmas so I can sneak into his room without assistance.

deb · « **Reply #18 on:** November 30, 2015, 23:36:20 pm »

When he wakes at 4AM, are you feeding him then? That might be why he's not really hungry when he wakes for the day?

Does he take a soother/pacifier/dummy? Also, are you the only one there at night? Can someone else go to him in the night? I found that my DH could get the girls back to sleep when I couldn't - he didn't smell like milk. LOL

Naube · « **Reply #19 on:** December 01, 2015, 21:05:53 pm »

Well last night went well I don't know if it was the one good nap he had yesterday, the first extra blanket or the formula. But he slept from 8-4:30 so I'm not going to complain only wished my two year old would do the same! I had to wake him at 830 so he could go to grandma care. I swear they tag team me for ensuring that I don't sleep more than 3 hour periods! But one wake up was better than 3.

I do feed him at 4am, I don't usually do dream feeds. My mom didn't realized I hadn't fed him when I dropped him off this morning and he didn't eat until 10:30 Either

Naube · « **Reply #20 on:** December 02, 2015, 15:00:44 pm »

Well ds had 2 good nap yesterday and slept from 8-8 and even my daughter slept through the night. It feels so strange to feel rested! Now I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this continues

deb · « **Reply #21 on:** December 02, 2015, 15:39:55 pm »

Here's hoping!

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