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Re: I have to sleep train for all of our sakes....hand hold and advice?
« Reply #60 on: January 21, 2016, 20:07:29 pm »
So are the nw's usually happy/chatty? They really sound UT to me! At this point we were on one nap but she is an extreme example but I wonder about capping the day sleep for a time to see if the nights improve (or yk you just get a waking or two for feeds and not other wakings!). We did a long morning nap and a short pm catnap because it work with the school run better when we had two naps...I think her wake up was 7 am, nap at 11 am for 1-1.5 hrs, nap at 3:30 pm for 20-30 min, bedtime at 8 pm. It worked for 3 months until she stopped going down for the catnap even with apop and the first nap had to be pushed later so she would actually sleep!
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Re: I have to sleep train for all of our sakes....hand hold and advice?
« Reply #61 on: January 21, 2016, 21:10:45 pm »
I think he must be UT too, although he looks exhausted but I think it's because his nights are so bad. If he is tired he sleeps. He is now self-settling for naps and BT, but he is really hard to resettle in the night and after about 4 almost impossible - chatty and playing. And if he does finally go back to sleep its only for 45 mins - like an under tired nap! So we are starting the day on an UT/OT cycle! And this morning he woke up at 4:45 then the earliest I could put him down was 8:15 - and he was tired, but not destroyed. Did a 1h45 nap though and then was cranky after, but I don't see how he could not be cranky as he is up all night!

It would work better for us probably to have a short am nap and a long pm. So normally he will do at least 1h15 in the morning - shall I try capping that at an hour to start? I thought capping that nap might help with the early waking. And I'm not too worried about OT as I can prob catch him up in the sling.
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Re: I have to sleep train for all of our sakes....hand hold and advice?
« Reply #62 on: January 21, 2016, 21:46:46 pm »
If you do cap the AM nap, try not to let it go earlier, that can reinforce EWs.  (Am I even making any sense?)
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Re: I have to sleep train for all of our sakes....hand hold and advice?
« Reply #63 on: January 21, 2016, 21:47:59 pm »
Yup. So stick at first nap 3h15 after wake up, but just cap it at an hour?
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Re: I have to sleep train for all of our sakes....hand hold and advice?
« Reply #64 on: January 22, 2016, 06:42:29 am »
^^^yes! And keep in mind to bump that A up if ew gets worse as too early of an am nap can make the ew worse.

What is the total sleep he gets in 24 hrs right now approx? That is what I based naps off of...if I wanted an 11 hr night and all I was getting was 13 hrs total then to keep the night I had to limit naps to 2 hrs.
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Re: I have to sleep train for all of our sakes....hand hold and advice?
« Reply #65 on: January 22, 2016, 08:39:47 am »
Prob getting 10 hours a night and 3-4 in the day. Last night was pretty good - down at 6:30 ish, quick squeak at 10, fed at 1:30, then slept til 4:15. Then he did a poo so I changed him (and his clothes, and his sheets, aaarrgghh), put him down and went to sleep, and when I woke up at 5:30 he was asleep (woke up quickly though). He looks shattered today though - big bags under his eyes - and little twin is saying he doesn't feel well so maybe there is sickness in the house.

If I cap his first nap to an hour, will I keep 3:15 A again after it?
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Re: I have to sleep train for all of our sakes....hand hold and advice?
« Reply #66 on: January 22, 2016, 19:22:14 pm »
Well....I capped his first nap and it all went a bit wrong from there.....here is our EASY, any thoughts?

WU 5:50
S 9:20 (really hard to settle, unlike him!) - 10:20
S 2:00 (really, really, really hard to settle) - 3 ish
BT 6:30 but had to shh pat to sleep.

So he's only had just 2 hours of nap today. He was seriously OT so am expecting an unsettled night....but if he is able to be resettled at his NW rather than staying awake telling me stories and playing with his hands that would hopefully mean that that is the problem, and I can start seriously paring down his naps!!

Just as an aside.....I complain about him a lot but I am absolutely besotted really!!
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Re: I have to sleep train for all of our sakes....hand hold and advice?
« Reply #67 on: January 23, 2016, 23:08:36 pm »
I think we all are like that with our kids!

Any revelations with his night sleep? I hope it was better! What about other factors like teeth or growth spurts - any of that in play too? The not settling if he usually does is odd, makes me wonder if something is up!
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Re: I have to sleep train for all of our sakes....hand hold and advice?
« Reply #68 on: February 01, 2016, 01:37:39 am »
Something was up....all 3 of them have had the most awful bug. Massive temperatures, hacking coughs. They are slowly getting better but we are definitely back to 3 hourly feeds, night and day. No solids, no water....so I have just gone with the BFing.

I'll give him a little while to settle, and then try again!!! All of them have been sleeping loads - even the twins have been ok 2 naps for a while. It's been like having 3 little babies all at once!
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Re: I have to sleep train for all of our sakes....hand hold and advice?
« Reply #69 on: February 01, 2016, 07:58:52 am »
Awww, poor things. Hope it passes soon!
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Re: I have to sleep train for all of our sakes....hand hold and advice?
« Reply #70 on: February 01, 2016, 12:50:34 pm »
Aww lots of healthy vibes for your family xx
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Re: I have to sleep train for all of our sakes....hand hold and advice?
« Reply #71 on: February 01, 2016, 23:25:44 pm »
Oh no, poor things, hope they're all better soon and that you stay well :-*
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Re: I have to sleep train for all of our sakes....hand hold and advice?
« Reply #72 on: February 02, 2016, 09:30:12 am »
Oh my goodness....fevers again, and little twin has a rash, and I have such a sore throat  :'( :'( :'(

Please keep the vibes coming, this is absolutely grim! I am just desperate to leave the house!!!! But someone is always napping or eating or vomiting......
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Re: I have to sleep train for all of our sakes....hand hold and advice?
« Reply #73 on: February 02, 2016, 09:44:56 am »
Oh dear me! Can DH take a day off? Sounds like an extra pair of hands is needed!!  Loads more vibes ~~~~~~~
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Re: I have to sleep train for all of our sakes....hand hold and advice?
« Reply #74 on: February 02, 2016, 12:04:58 pm »
Yikes!!! Lots and lots of vibes for you ~~~
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