Happy Night wakings

[choc]

Ah I know you probably won't get this in time but I'll try anyway! So I'm finally getting a decent afternoon nap, he has been asleep for an hour and it is 4.35pm. I don't know what i'm doing with this it hasn't ever happened before a good morning and afternoon nap! What time do I let him sleep til and what time should Bt be? Last time he had a decent afternoon nap 2 til 4 he'd had a bad morning nap and went to bed at 7. We had a bad night. What should I do?!

[trimbler]

Yes I think 3.5h A after a 45 min nap was probably a bit much, as you said, that wasn't what you were aiming for anyway but can't be helped!

Yeah sorry too late for you again, tied up with dinner and bed myself! So... What happened? I wonder if it would help you to consider a day like today as an experiment, so you just decide on your plan and see what happens, then whatever happens with the night, you have learnt either what not to do next time, or if you're very lucky you may just hit on something that works I just say that as I find it helps me to take that approach, but of course it's harder to take that step back when you're sleep deprived and just desperate for a few good nights 

[choc]

I ended up waking him at 4.45 after 1hr15min nap and bt was 7.15. If I get another bad night it must be ut, it surely can't be ot on a day like this
Wu out of cot at 6.45
S 10 to 12
S 3.25/30 to 4.45 put down at 3.15 buy os I think.
Bt 7.15
 Looking at it now I am scared of ut. But I do think he prefers a shorter A to bed.
If tonight is bad tomorrow I will shoot for
S 10 to 12
S 3.15 to 4.15
Bt 7

[trimbler]

Yeah could work if tonight is really bad to help him catch up - but it seems he's done some decent pm naps and nights after a 3.5h second A, right?

[choc]

I once got a 1 hour nap and once got a 40 min nap. Often I was getting  30 mins but that was before I started noting everything down above.
Do you think I should try 3hr 30 instead of 3hr15 then?  And how long would you let him sleep and what Bt?
The 26th was similar to today but a pretty bad night.

[trimbler]

Yeah ok maybe 3h 15 is safer then, I think that's what we said before? As for how long etc... Well personally I'd be tempted to see what happens if I just let him sleep, but I think you've already been there and it wasn't pretty, right? Well, an hour seems to be what he's often done, so yes why not just stick with that as a first guess - we really won't know until you try

[choc]

I nearly let him sleep as long as he wanted this afternoon but I got the fear and I was scared of bedtime getting  too late. We don't like to do much later than 7 as his big brother goes down at 7.30.

[trimbler]

Haha yes I know what you mean And I understand about not wanting BT to get too close to DS1's BT, I also like to have DD fully settled before DS goes down there (adjacent rooms). Although we have had BTs closer in the past, makes a big difference whether DH is there at BT or not!

[choc]

Yes their routines coincide nicely at the moment.
Do you think today looked Ok or ut for Bt?

[choc]

So it wasn't too bad last night but not as good as we had the other day. He woke at 2.30 til 3am then from 6ish on and off til 7.
The other week we had it so he slept through til 5 before waking but I can't find my notes for those days. So I'm not sure why he has started waking  so early.
Today he has done
S 10 til 11.30 instead of 12.
I will put down at 2.45 and go from there.

[trimbler]

Yeah could have been a little UT, but not really so bad IMO, bear in mind there could also be non routine reasons for MOTN wakings, eg teething or some other discomfort. Sorry I can't remember if we've discussed solids yet? Don't forget if you're introducing new foods, or if he's starting to take larger amounts, it can affect his sleep as his digestive system gets used to it all.

Hope today was ok?

[choc]

We are blw so although he is eating it's not huge amounts.
Today was
S 10 to 11.30
S 2.40 to 4
Bt 7

Fingers crossed!

[trimbler]

Indeed

[choc]

I'm feeling really down about this now. 1hr30 night waking then awake at 5.45 and didn't go back to sleep. I've been doing this since January, he's had different routines, it can't  have been teeth that whole time. Why is he doing this?

[choc]

Could the 10 to 12 nap be anything to do with it?