Help with 2:1 transition please

[Bella89]

I think she is old enough to do 1 nap. Lots of the kids are doing that by 1yo. But yes, to get there, you want the nap to fall the middle of the day and last 1.5h to 3h depending on the baby.

I would recommend you reading this:
From 2 to 1 nap transition (10-12m and older)

We got a solid no UT/OT day when we got to 5h:/ It really depends on the LO. I don't know what she is doing right now.
Your last posts when you were trying short am naps were not even 4h A time in the morning. Maybe you could start with that? With 4h?
Do you think she can do more?

Look into here:
chronological EASY samples, 10-12 months
It really gives you a perspective

[Mum2lucy]

The 4 hour in the morning recently was to get a short Cn early as she needed decent awake time to take a good nap. Before I got into a mess with her, she was doing 4hours 20mins. Two days last week I did long am at 4hours and got 1 hour 20mins but I think it was because she was overtired from the day before. I'm going to try 4.5hours a again tomorrow and see what happens.

Today's was

Wu: 5.45
E
A
S 10.15 - 11.02 (went down easily. Asleep one min after going on cot. stirred at 35mins but continued to sleep, woke at 47 mins didn't cry as such so I left her for 15mins in case she went back to sleep. Then cried and when I went in she had a dirty nappy)
E
A
S 15.44 - 16.20 (cried for 4mins then asleep, woke up herself crying)
Bt 6.50 (went down easily enough, into cot drowsy)

We had to go to a gathering this afternoon so that's why her sleep pm was so late. She showed no tired signs when out until she got a little grumpy at 15.20 so I told my dh to take her home)

Fingers crossed that tomorrow I manage a big am sleep as she is having such little day sleep. It's always been the case if I don't get her am sleep right then the rest of the day doesn't work either!

[Scottishmummy]

That first nap looks UT at 4.5hrs A time, even though she went to sleep easily.  You could probably afford to push it a bit longer - 4hr40 maybe and hold it at that for a couple of days before adding 10 more mins if you get a short nap, keep it at that if you get a longer one.

[Mum2lucy]

So today went....

Wu: 5.15
E
A
S 9.50 - 11.15 (went to sleep easily, no crying and went to sleep by herself)
E
A
S 16.12 - 16.37 (took me 40mins to get her to sleep and it took a feed and rocking to get her off. APOP - I've never rocked her to sleep and I don't like doing it but nothing else worked)
Bt 19.03 (went down ok but took a while to get sleepy)

So far she has cried at 20.30, 21.00. Both times she has went back to sleep quickly. Once I had to go up. Not sure if she is over tired crying? She's quite unsettled.

She does have the cold and it's hot so it could be that?

She def doesn't want to Cn and could cope with one nap but I just need to get back to a 6am/7am wake up! Xx

[Scottishmummy]

Would you consider cutting the CN any shorter? I find that a late afternoon CN gives me EW if it's any longer than 15mins.

[Mum2lucy]

Yes I would do that. What a would you have done after a 15 mins Cn?

[Scottishmummy]

My DD is younger and only manages 2-2.5 hrs after a 15min CN...but that might mean you could try AP-ing around same time e.g. 16.15-30 or 16.30-45 & still get a 7pm BT that she is ready for.

I'd keep your first A the same for today & maybe tomorrow too but it looks like she might cope with an increase there too after that to see if you could get a longer first nap

[Mum2lucy]

Yeah I think so too with the am nap.

She woke at 5.30am again! Wonder if it's the cat nap causing it or she needs a few days to adjust? x

[Scottishmummy]

Could be either.. Or even need for more first A! Maybe try as suggested above for today and see what happens. So much trial & error!

[Mum2lucy]

I extended the a to 4 hours 50 mins as the door bell went then she had a dirty nappy.

Wu: 5.35
E
A
S 10.25 - 12.35 (went down ok, stirred at 30mins, woke briefly at 45mins then back to sleep, woke up chatting)

Yay!
What bt would you suggest if I can't get a Cn? 6pm?

[Scottishmummy]

Great Nap- looks like you've hit on a good A time too!

I wouldn't try for CN with that wu time, maybe just quiet time between 4.30-5.

Yeah, give 6pm BT  a go...fingers crossed for you and for a good night too!

[Mum2lucy]

So yesterday was:

Wu: 5.35
E
A
S 10.25 - 12.35 (went down ok, stirred at 30mins, woke briefly at 45mins then back to sleep, woke up chatting)
Bt 18.00 (was quite teary going to bed, asleep within a few mins)

Wu: 5.15am (so 18.00 - 5.15 = 11 hours 15mins)

Still such an early wake up!  she doesn't seem to be extending her night sleep much! Hopefully she does over the next wee while? Although I'm not sure she will because night sleep plus nap is 13hours 25 mins over 24hours and that is about what she normally does when sleeping well.

[Mum2lucy]

Update:
Whilst ignoring lg this morning she fell back asleep at 6.30

So it went:
Wu: 5.15 (leave to see if she would settle)
E: 5.40 (treated like night feed)
A: 5.50 - 6.30 (in cot dark etc)
S: 6.30 - 7.30
Wu for day: 7.30

Not sure if this will affect her first nap or just stick with 4hours 50mins?

[Scottishmummy]

Sorry have just seen this! I would have stuck with the new A time to get a nap around 12.30... With any luck that will re-set her to a later BT and Wu and hopefully a regular one nap day. 

[Mum2lucy]

No worries 😄 I was working today at a keeping in touch day so she was looked after by my SIL.
The day went

Wu: 5.15 (leave to see if she would settle)
E: 5.40 (treated like night feed)
A: 5.50 - 6.30 (in cot dark etc)
S: 6.30 - 7.30
Wu for day: 7.30
E 8am breakfast
A
E 11.15 lunch
S 12.20 - 13.35 (my SIL thinks a door bell woke her up but not sure)
E 3pm snack
A
Bt 19.05 (I tried from 18.35 to get her to sleep but she was upset in the cot and I had to shhhhh her and give her the dummy for a wee bit)

Think she was OT so I'm not holding out for a later wake up 

I took her out in the car for half an hour about 5pm to see if I could get a 5/10mins Cn but she wasn't interested
Xx