Help with 2:1 transition please

[Mum2lucy]

Hiya ladies, 

The last two days I've got a 1 HR 15mins nap from the morning a of 4 hours 50mins.
Any ideas on that? It's not that long a nap to have only one nap a day!

Today was
Wu:6.30
E 8am breakfast
A
E 10.45 small lunch
S 11.25 - 12.40

Yesterday was
Wu: 5.30
E 7.30 breakfast
A
E 11.30 lunch
A 12.20 - 13.35

I tried resettling but she wont.

More a needed in the morning maybe? X

[Bella89]

Hi there,
was there a reason you treated these 2 days differently? I mean she had 2 different A times, but when she woke up later you put her down sooner. She had 5h A time the first time and 7h the other.

Today was
Wu:6.30
E 8am breakfast
A
E 10.45 small lunch
S 11.25 - 12.40

Yesterday was
Wu: 5.30
E 7.30 breakfast
A
E 11.30 lunch
A 12.20 - 13.35

If it was me, I would just try making it more or less the same next 4 days in a row. Any adjustment takes time. Try 5h maybe?

[Mum2lucy]

Sorry I wasn't clear as the times were the same
Yesterday was
Wu: 5.15 (leave to see if she would settle)
E: 5.40 (treated like night feed)
A: 5.50 - 6.30 (in cot dark etc)
S: 6.30 - 7.30
Wu for day: 7.30
E 8am breakfast
A
E 11.15 lunch
S 12.20 - 13.35 (my SIL thinks a door bell woke Her)

So both 4 hrs 50mins. I just thought it was strange to get a 2hr 10 mins nap on that A then the next two days get 1 HR 15mins. I'll maybe try 5 hours A
Thanks xx

[Bella89]

Let us know how it goes

[Mum2lucy]

Hiya,

I'm on 5hrs 10mins morning A and having consistently 1 nap.
However the one nap is only 1 hour 30mins.
Today it was 1 hours 40mins but it seems such a small for a wee baby.
I'm on holiday just now though so to be fair she's doing well!

Wu 7.13
E
A
S 12.21 - 14.01
E
A
Bt 19.30 (crying from 19.15-19.30 needed shhhhh)

Yesterday:
Feed 7.00
Wu 8.30
E
A
S 13.34 - 15.05
Bt 19.45 (sleepy on me 19.15 then upset when put in cot and shhhh until 19.45)
Slept through until 7.13 today.

What do you think of length of nap?
Thanks X

[Scottishmummy]

It's great that she's doing 1 nap now, a good night & a later wu time :-)

I know "textbook" one nap is 2hrs but I know of babies who get by on 1hr30-45, especially if she's doing a long unbroken night.  You could experiment with a bit of a first  A time push to see if it helped lengthen the nap but I'd wait a little to let her settle into this new routine and until you're back from holiday.

Have a great time on your holiday.

[Mum2lucy]

Morning,

Thanks for the reply.
This morning she woke at 6.30am so I do think sometimes I might need to try for a Cn to make it to bedtime but I've noticed if I do a Cn, she does a 10.5 hour night and if I sebt, she usually does 11.5hour night.
I'm finding it hard to keep getting the later Wu so that I can do a one nap day but it's progress for sure and she's doing well at night.

Will keep you posted x

[Scottishmummy]

Hmm, those wake ups are gradually getting earlier again, aren't they? Like they did when she got into an UT/OT pattern last time.
Do you think she could cope with a further first A time push to try for a slightly later, hopefully longer nap?

[Bella89]

Just wanted to let you know, that at the beginning my DS was sleeping around 1h 30 min when started 1 nap. Then it gradually got longer. When got to 4h I understood I need to wake him up because 5am wake up is nothing pleasant So do not worry. It will get better

I think I would proceed with A time as is, but start BT at 6. What do you think?
I don't think the short nap is an issue, but rather long day. It's just something my gut is telling me :/

[Mum2lucy]

Yes bedtime has been later than planned as she has been crying a bit going to bed which has pushed final bt back by 30mins or so.

Yesterday was
Wu 06.34
E
A
S 11.45 - 13.37 (woke at the 1hr mark, was shhh back to sleep within 5mins)
E
A
S 18.40

Nw 19.20, 19.30 and finally off to sleep at 19.50
Nw 05.30 fed

Wu 7.00

So I think some OT is creeping in - guess it's to be expected.

She's never really done longer than a 12 hour night so although sebt helps with OT, I still tend to get an early wake up as she done sleeping? xx

[Bella89]

Might be.

I feel like this nap is slowly getting longer. While it does, you can push the bedtime later. But slowly

[Mum2lucy]

Hi

We had an hour of OT screaming last night where she seemed she was breaking her heart!

Yesterday was

Nw 4.15 fed and back down ok
Wu 6.13
E
A
S 11.34 - 13.00
E
A
Bt 18.40 (went down fine)
Nw 21.00 (screamed for an hour)
Nw 05.30 (fed and back down)

I tried for an hour between 4-5 pm to get a Cn as we are on holiday and were out but it didn't work.

You think I should try to resettle the nap after 1.5 hours? x

[Bella89]

I would say, try resettling for 5 min, but if she's clearly not interested, just stop.

Do you think bringing that nap earlier would help? By 20 min?

What is your gut telling you?

[Mum2lucy]

Initially my thoughts were the same as you that maybe the am A was pushing it a bit so today I brought it back to 5hours 10mins where I had previously got 1hr 40 nap and 1.5 hour nap. Today though I did that and only got 1hr 10mins nap. She woke crying but wouldn't resettle.

Wu: 7am
E
A
S 12.10 - 13.20

So now I'm thinking that maybe the morning A needs pushed out a bit rather than shortened? It does however seem a long time for her to be up!

[Scottishmummy]

Some LOs need a long first A for a good nap, then do a shorter one to bedtime. My DS was older (18 mo) when he finally went to one nap consistently but he would do 7hrs A time (6am-1pm) from wake up to his nap then sleep until 3pm and only do 4hrs until BT at 7pm.