2-1 transition help with 1 year old

[Shiv52]

I'd say that was a good day although shorter night.  You're definitely getting a better nap off that longer A time.

How've things been

[JennVanessa1083]

Hi!

Yes it was definitely a phenomenal nap day. I was just a little confused on the shorter night but I think the monster nap caused a shorter night which is ok. I'm wondering if I should limit the nap to two hours should that happen again. Ill admit I'm not loving a 6 awake up lol

Anyways yesterday was a fluke day where he was extra tired and then we had a UT night.

Today he woke at 7:20 then we did around a 5.25 A and he napped for 1.5.

Should I stick to a 7:30 bedtime (5.25A) or go by a shorter A time like 4.75?

[Shiv52]

If you do the shorter A time will he not just wake early or do you think he'll give you a 12 hour night?

I'd say a 2 hour nap is great. I used to do 2.5 and was happy with the 13 hour day YK?

[JennVanessa1083]

Yea he will probably wake up at 7 if I put him down before 7:30 which is NOT what I want lol.

Oh wow 2.5?! I would LOVE that to be the norm and have a 11 hour night! How did your routine look with a long nap and 13 hour day?

[Shiv52]

We did something like

8am wake up
1-3.30pm nap
9pm bedtime

My DH isn't in from work until 6.30 so the later bedtime meant he had time with us too and I'm not a morning person so it suited me down to the ground.

With my Dd2 that didn't suit as my DD1 had started nursery and we needs to be out of the house by 8.45 and it didn't make sense for her to be up until 9pm when the older one was in bed at 7.30. So I did cap her nap at 2 hours and then 1.5 and kept to a 12/12.5 day so her day was something like

8am wake up
1-3 nap then 1-2.30
8/8.30 bedtime

I presume your little guy would prefer the longer A time before the nap and shorter one after to get a 13 hour day and longer nap?

[JennVanessa1083]

I ended up sticking to the 7:30ish bedtime where he did a 5.5 A. It was a little too long as he was crying by bedtim but it also gave me a 7 hour stretch and a great wake up (7:30 am) so I would say it was a success.

It seems he favors a 5.25 A for a nap ranging from 1.5-2 hrs of a nap. Is it true that anything under 2 hrs on a one nap is considered OT?

As for bedtime, what I do know is that he favors a 12-12.5 hr day max. Anything over that and he seems to be OT.

In terms of A I'm still hazy on what's appropriate for him. I could try a 4.45-5 A but then the dilemma is that if he only does a 1.5 nap then bedtime is too early 

So in that case maybe just a set bedtime?

[Shiv52]

Yeah I think you'd be best persevering with a set bedtime as much as possible. Sounds like persevering paid off with a great night and wake up. He's coping much better with the A times now it seems!  Well done you on sticking with it xx

[JennVanessa1083]

Thank you so much for your help! The set bedtime definitely helps. Last night we got a lot of NW in the early am but it seemed like it was due to molars. He still had an11.5 night so things are definitely improving on one nap. But overall his EASYis pretty consistent in terms of wake up, nap time and bedtime which is great. I don't think he has ever been this consistent! Mainly bc I was too loose with it lol

[Shiv52]

Yayyyyyyy!!!  Am delighted for you all!!! Long May it last

[JennVanessa1083]

Hi Shiv!!

I'm not sure if DS is in OT land it its teething. He's starting to fight bedtime and he's at 3-4 NW a night  still cutting molars smh

He's at times getting tired by 4.5 then taking a long nap so I push to bedtime which ends up being a 5.5 A. In pretty sure the fight is OT. Some days I can stretch to 5-5.5 A before his nap.

[Shiv52]

I think you need to set that A time before the nap and keep things consistent. Honestly I wouldn't vary that A time by more than 10/15 mins. So if it was 5.5 Id do 5.15 minimum otherwise A time
To bed gets too long and then he NWs then more tired in the morning so needs his nap earlier and its a vicious cycle.

I know you were setting bedtime but you likely need to set wake up and nap too to keep things consistent for him if that makes sense.

[Shiv52]

And also with the shorter A times you'll have no chance of a good long nap which complicates things too xx

[JennVanessa1083]

Yea that definitely makes sense. I guess I ended up confusing myself so unsure where to set lol. Should I start with:

WU 8 am
S 1-3 (hopefully)
BT 8 pm

Or

WU 8 am
S 1:30-3:30 (hopefully)
BT 8 pm (hopefully)

He's now 15.5 months old.

[JennVanessa1083]

Ok so he ended up with a short night  Hasn't done this for what feels like awhile I'm assuming OT but we have done A times like this before and sometimes more so maybe the molars bothering him more? Or maybe making him overall more tired so getting OT faster?

This was yesterday:
NW 11:28; 3:21; 6:38
Total 12 hrs

WU 8 am
S 1:17- 2:59 pm (A 5:17; took 15 minutes of him fighting sleep despite being sleepy at lunch)
BT 8:10 pm (A 5:11; fought sleep for 20 minutes; OT)

NW 10:21; 10:35 (reupped on meds), 2:45, 5:22

Woke up at 6:45!!! Yikes!

He's clearly uncomfortable as now he's hitting down on furniture. I'm just wondering if it's also OT from his routine.

Any advice for an exhausted mama?

[JennVanessa1083]

Hi Shiv!

I'm sorry for posting...again. Last night was a horrific night and am at a lost. I'm pretty sure it was teething related but I'm so sleep deprived that I barely know my own name lol

Anyways, he only slept for a total of 9 hours. He looks exhausted but was fighting sleep in different portions of the night and this morning despite him nodding off he kept jolting awake and squirming not wanting or unable to sleep. Seems like OT but he's also apparently cutting all 4 molars so maybe it's just that and I need to accept that for now. Here's yesterday:

NW 12:20; 3:45; 6:30

WU 8:15
S 1:05-3:20 pm (A 4:50; tried to stretch but he was miserably tired)
BT 8:40 pm (A5:20; tried for earlier but didn't fall asleep until this time)

NW 11:38; 1:24-2:35 (tossing and turning; eyes would close then he would pop his eyes open)

Up for the day 6:50 am so matter what I did 

I'm so confused