2-1 transition help with 1 year old

[JennVanessa1083]

So it seems I got a UT night and I am wondering how to maneuver a 2 nap day? Would I do a long am then just APOP a CNin the pm?

Yesterday:

WU 7:30
S 11:30-12( A 4 hrs; gave him a nap bc really fussy and crying; woke himself)
S 3:17-4:42 pm (A 3:16; stirred at 45)
BT 8:35 pm (A 3:53)

NW 11, 3-3:30 am (tossing and turning; eventually drifted), 6:35 am (dozed off from 6:45-7 am), up at 7 wide awake trying to walk lol

[Shiv52]

Yes I think you need to be as consistent as possible. Do 4.75/5 a time then AP a CN and then slightly later bedtime x

[JennVanessa1083]

Ok yes I figured I should have pushed for a longer am. So even if he's clearly tired and fussy I should still try to have him make it for a 4.75A at least. Of course he's tired again today from a weird night but I'm pushing to 4.75 and hoping for a nice long nap. If not ill do a 20-30 minute CN. What's a goodA after a CN like this. I always seem to run into issues with this 

[Shiv52]

Honestly I'm not sure. Mine could manage really long A times after that CN and bedtime ended up ridiculously late. That's why I had to push to one nap. When we first moved to one nap I needed to avoid going out after 4pm to avoid a car nap or bedtime was about 10pm. Ugh.

[JennVanessa1083]

lol yea my DS does a 13.5-14 hour day with two naps. I aim for 13 hours but he somehow stretches it out more smh.

Well I guess I really have to push one nap. DH watched DS in the afternoon after he took an hour nap after an A of 4:40. I told DH to put him down 4 hrs later for a CN. Maybe I should told him sooner bc he fought the CN finally doing 30 min after a 4.5 A 

He was one crabby baby. I put him to bed after 3 hours so we will see what tonight holds. Not expecting good sleep.

Did you find that your LOs just didn't take a CN no matter how short the am nap was? Maybe he was OT?

[JennVanessa1083]

DS keeps waking up around 6?am no matter if it's a one or two nap day. He will be awake for 30 min-hour while I APOP to sleep. He wakes up fussy and rolling around. I don't know what to do.

[Shiv52]

What time is wake up?  8am?  I tended to just feed back to sleep at that age which I know isn't ideal.

Are you still varying days between 1/2 nap days then?  Can you post the last few days and we can see if anything stands out?

[JennVanessa1083]

Yea I'm still varying 1-2 nap days depending on wake up unfortunately. Ideally I would love an 8-8 day.  Yesterday was a one nap day and he had about 2-3 NW and up at 6. I tried to feed and it seemed he wanted to go back to sleep but couldn't. I ApOPed and he dozed for a little then was up again at 6:30 rolling around, fussy, and crying on and off. Maybe it's his teeth? He was holding his mouth a lot. This is the last few days. We were out and about with family so unfortunately it wasn't consistent.

Friday:
NW 10, 2:44, 6:34-7:08
Total 9.5

WU 7:20 am
S 11:44-1 pm (A 4:24; Crabby; Aaron put down)
S 5:41-6:12 pm (A 4:41; refused this nap in the car for more than a half hour but crying and babbling; rocked and nursed him)
BT 9:17 pm (A 3:05)

Saturday:
NW 3-3:30, 6 am
Total: 10 hrs
WU 8 am
S 1-1:30 pm (would not resettle)
S 4:37-5:49 pm
BT 8:47 pm

Sunday:

NW 12:46,stirred at 3
Total 10 hrs
WU 7 am
S 11:16-12:23 pm(car ride to the beach)
S5:37-646 pm (car ride home)

Yesterday:

NW 3:43, 7am
Total 10.25 hrs

WU 8:21 am
S 1:09- 2:50 (A 4:48; very tired didn't want book; briefly stirred at the 1 hour mark)
BT 7:49 pm

NW 12, 3, 6; dozed on and off between 6-7 am

[Shiv52]

I think TBH you are not going to get much consistency until you can provide some consistency YK?  That first A time varied from 4.15 to 5 hours across the last few days. I totally appreciate life has to happen though. With my DD3 her sleep is all over the place as I am just not able to provide any sort of consistency at all and the poor mite is all over the place. I keep missing her sleep window and she's inconsolable and then short naps. But it's school holidays and my big girls are off so we're out and about so not much I can do. 

I think you should try get to 4.75 consistently for 3 days then move to 5 hours and do one nap for a week. Set wake up and do not let him sleep in beyond 8. It will take longer than a week for the nap to lengthen but I think he needs the chance to get himself sorted into one nap.

Hugs. It's such a frustrating time. Cold turkey worked best here as I'm too lazy with all the messing about.

[JennVanessa1083]

Ahhhhhh You're right! I need consistency. I appreciate the advice. I'm so tempted to go cold turkey but then nights and wake ups are so inconsistent that not sure what that would look like. I'm tired of messing with A times. I guess we can all just do the best we can 

 I think I'll do what you suggested: 4.75 for a few days then jump to 5 hours for one nap. If I do 4.75 first do I do a CN with it? Also when I jump to 5A do I do 5 A after the one nap?

So hard when it's summer and my husband is on holiday as well. But I can try to work around his nap to get some more consistency.

I'll have to wait as my poor baby is very sick. He may have Roseola Virus so with the high fever and teething he's an all around mess. 

I hope your DS 3 gets sorted soon!

[bossanovile]

Totally following. My DD is exactly one today and she's never done longer than an 11h night - mostly 10.5 no matter how early I put down, and how consistent and conservative (or stretched out) wake times are. She wakes very happy so I'm accepting she's on the lower end since she only clocks 2.25 max in naps and 10.5 overnight on good days - not cranky though.

My thoughts with holding off or not holding off the 2-1 is completely dependent on how much wake time LO can handle! Am sending you all my empathy - right now our days are

WU 645-715 <3.5-3.75 wake time>
N1- 1035-1140 (maybe an hour or slightly more)
N2 - 340 -440 (maybe slightly less)
Bedtime - 3h50-4h later so 835pm

Not too sure how long I can hold off too since she fights some 2nd naps! No turning back once you've transited though I heard.

[Shiv52]

Awh poor wee man. I remember my DD1 having it and it was awful. Passed in a few days though.

Let's get him better and then see how you want to proceed?

Sleep is important but family time is important too xxx

[JennVanessa1083]

Agreed! I definitely don't want to be confined to the house to ensure a perfect EASY as I doubt one even exists lol

Ok I can check back when he's totally better. His fever passed yay!!!! But he is still not 100%. It's heartbreaking seeing them feel ill.

[Shiv52]

I'm so glad he's feeling a bit better.

 

Agreed! I definitely don't want to be confined to the house to ensure a perfect EASY as I doubt one even exists lol

Never truer words have been spoken!!!
I do think if you try to get to at least 4.75 first A time the rest might start to fall into place and the jump to 1 nap will seem obvious at that point xx

[JennVanessa1083]

Haha I'm learning to be more chill with that fact!

Anyways, if I do a 4.75 A, I would do s CN correct?

Then jumping to 5 would mean one nap then doing a 5 A to bed or do I ease into that much A?