17mo SR? extra eyes needed :)

[Bella89]

Looking back he had a 7/7.30 WU with a 12.30-3 nap.  IMO you need the nap at roughly this time so 12.30 (unless you get refusal in which case 1pm but you were not getting refusal before so if he will go down for nap at 12.30 then that's what I suggest) and cap at 2.30pm  This gives a 2hr nap with a decent A before the nap (as I said don't move later unless there is refusal or UT waking) and gives a longer A time before BT which is what he likely needs so he will stop fighting.

I like that!! It makes lots of sense. Why didn't I see it :/ DA!
Thank you so much!

[creations]

TBH I should have been clearer earlier in the thread. I made an assumption that you'd start nap at the same time as usual and cap from there to extend the A to BT. Sorry I wasn't clear enough. I hope it helps over the next few days and starts to settle a bit for you.

xx

[Bella89]

Oh that was my intention, but he started waking up so late I figured there is no sense in that:/
He woke up 7:30, so I used it and put him down 12:20. He fell asleep 12:45.
I woke him up 2:45. We were out, and I was hoping he will fall asleep in the car 7:30, but we managed to come home, drink some milk and wash up. 8 he was in bed, but he fell asleep just now, at 9:25 by himself, but with a lot of fussing
I will give it few days. He needs to catch up to these changes.
Thanks!

[creations]

Well hopefully it's jsut he needs time to settle into it. FX for you

[Bella89]

Hi, that's me again
So I'm bringing some updates, but I gotta say it's not easy here:/
I feel like if he doesn't fall asleep eventually, we have no problems, no wake ups. It's just it takes up to 2h to put him down, especially BT.
The room is dark, temp is fine, no noise. He cries for me if I try to leave the room, so I sit by his bed and move the chair closer and closer to the door each day. I don't engage a contact just look at the wall. If I look at him he tries to play with me, throws everything from the crib. It is completely not like him, so I figured maybe it is regression:(

Day1:
7:30 WU
12:30 I hoped for a nap in the car when we were driving back (30 min drive) from shopping. He was sleepy but didn't fall asleep.
1:00 tried to put him down for 45min, no luck we left the room
2:30 no luck
4:00 no luck
6:00 bath and straight to bed, we left the room at 7:30 because he was crying so hard
8:00 again,
9:30 he fell asleep

Day2:
5:30 WU
12:30 nap till 2:30 he was resistant for 30 min but gave up
7:00 bath and BT
9:00 fell asleep after 1.5h of trying, finally DH rubbed his back for 20 min and he fell asleep

Day 3:
6:30 WU
12:00 nap till 2:30 I wasn't home to wake him and MIL didn't want to, so I had to do it after I came home
7:30 bath and BT
8:30 he fell asleep

Day4:
6:30 WU
12:30 nap till now

He doesn't eat much, I think he is teething again.

What do you think?

[jessmum46]

We'll all have a different take on this but that sort of pattern plus teething would suggest OT/pain for my LOs.  I wouldn't wake from naps and I'd try for an earlier bedtime once or twice, plus I'd be giving pain meds a good 45-60 mins before sleep.  Worth a go?

[Bella89]

Hi,
yes, I actually gave him some ibuprofen before I even read your reply. I usually avoid it, but he seemed so miserable:/
It did help.

I have to wake him up. I used to think it is a wrong thing to even consider it, but DS started sleeping 12:30-5:30 and that became a problem ;] But I did add an extra hour when he was unwell.

Right now, it seems developmental. He is much more frustrated during the day, screams which he never did. Past week he had more tantrums than past year:/

His sleep is slightly better. But just a little bit :/

[jessmum46]

If teeth are really sore that might explain the frustration/screaming.  Could well be developmental though - DS was foul for several weeks before the big language explosion began!