2:1 transition with a 1 year old

[Mum2lucy]

So again I'm getting short nights

Wu: 6.25
S: 12.00-14.20
Bt: 7.15 asleep 7.35
Nw: 5.50

I thought it was good her nap was getting longer but it seems it making her night even shorter!

[Scottishmummy]

Hi!

Kind of following as my DD is going through the 2-1 as well now and also giving us 5am NWs!

But looking at your days...I wonder if the morning naps are contributing...so good to ask nursery to be more consistent...and at home, I think I might try only doing the 15min morning CN if wu is before 6.  Around 6am wu, I would try to get to the set nap..even if it needs moved up to 15mins earlier if she's getting really tired.

Looking at yesterday do you think the 10.5hr night (which can be in normal range) was because she's done a longer day time nap..so she still had 13hrs total sleep? I wouldn't start capping the nap though though as it's probably a one off catch up but that might be why she did a shorter night?

[Mum2lucy]

2 days before was

Wu: 6.04
S: 12.13- 14.45
Bt: 19.10 wouldn't settle until 7.40

Nw: 4.47 (went in a few times and it took her ages to go back to sleep think she went off at about 6am)
Wu: 8am (I woke her as we were going out)

It was another short night 7.40-4.47 

oh you are in the throes of 2:1 now... Good luck! Hope the 5am starts stop soon. Going to the set nap had been helping us for a little while to get an after 6am wake up. xx

[Scottishmummy]

Thanks!

Do you think the 2.5hr nap is giving you the shorter nights/EW?  If it continues maybe you could try capping the nap at 2hrs and doing BT 5hrs A time after she's up/set BT 7pm if doing a 12-2pm nap?
 Or do you think she needs the longer nap as catch up from nursery days?

[Mum2lucy]

I think it might be giving me it but it's too early to tell. Tbh I'm usually of the thought that I'll take any sleep she does so that she is catching up after nursery as you say. Yesterday she did two hours at nursery and I thought brilliant is this her settling but today it was only an hour.

Also as you said before, in not sure if 12.00pm is late enough for her sometimes if she does sleep later. I do think in time she'll be a 1pm napper.

On her nursery days I've been trying to put her down to sleep for half 6 as she is only having about an hour at nursery so it's not really a set bedtime. Do you think this half 6 is a good idea or push to seven?

Today was a nursery day:
Bt 7.15
Wu: 6.45
S: 12.30-1.30
Bt: 18.30, sleep 18.54 (upset and had to shhh)

[Scottishmummy]

Set BT can be up to 30 mins early, so if you think she needs the catch up sleep, I'd do it.  My DS was always exhausted after nursery days and ready for an earlier BT.

[Mum2lucy]

On a day like this what do you think?

Wu: 6.20
S: 12.13- 14.28
Bt: 7.30, sleep 7.45

I'm a bit worried it's a long day and late bedtime but she doesn't seem tired (as usual!) to go to bed earlier? xx

[Scottishmummy]

Looks like a good day to me - a 13hr day (ish) with a 2hr nap is ok. Hope you she does a good night for you.

[Mum2lucy]

I'm going on holiday this week and her naps have gone weird - such bad timing! She's waking early in the morning too. It's been three days of this:

Wu: 6.20
S: 9.50-10 (we have a baby class and she fell asleep on way there)
S: 12.43 - 14.17
Bt: 7.05, sleep 7.15

Wu: 5.40, quiet until 6.02 not sure if sleeping
S: 12.27- 14.10 (put down at 11.50 but wouldn't settle at all, not crying initially but then crying about 12.20 and had to go in and shhhh wouldn't settle ended up feeding to sleep)
Bt: 7.02, sleep 7.13

Wu: 5.40, again quiet until 6.05
S: 9.40-9.50 (fell asleep on an errand)
S: 12.32 (put down at 12pm and as above yesterday wouldn't settle extra)

I know it's only a few days but it's just as I'm going on holiday and don't want it to get worse. I guess she might be overtired as she is waking up earlier in the morning or could she be under tired at 12 from the tiny Cn? I know the Cn isn't ideal but sometimes I need to go out in the morning and it just happens. I've given up that baby class though for this reason.

Any thoughts? Thanks so much as always! I don't want to be feeding to sleep... I'm stopping bf-img very soon! and I haven't fed to sleep in months!!   
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[jessmum46]

I'd say some lingering OT from being in the 2-1 transition, hence the early catnaps and difficulty settling.  But given you are about to go away I think it may be a case of riding it out, doing your best for now and just hanging in there till you get back and can see how things pan out x

[Mum2lucy]

I'm going to a family home on holiday so I'll be able to stick to her routine. She's been doing so well. Not sure why I'm getting this resistance all of a sudden X

[jessmum46]

Any chance teeth on the move?  Our 2-1 took a step back with DS when he got his canines - extra tiredness and more crying at sleep times

[Mum2lucy]

Yes she has her 4 molars in so canines are next.
She's woken up at 5.40am again. 4 days in a row exactly at that time.
I don't know what to do with the naps as it was a set nap of 12 but she is struggling to make it to then as its an early wake up.

She goes to nursery tues wed thurs as well so she doesn't sleep as well there either! x

[Mum2lucy]

Today she woke at 5.40 again.
Her set nap is 12 so I asked nursery to have her down by 11.30 (knowing that it might be late or she'd take a little to fall asleep)
The nursery said they did this but she wouldn't sleep. She rolled around her cot/stood up etc for ages and eventually fell asleep at 1.40pm and slept for 35mins. Disaster day!

Wu: 5.40
S: 13.40-2.15 (nursery tried from 11.30)
Bt: 18.20 (just put her down now)

I have no idea what has happened as everything was going well for a week or two.
 

[Scottishmummy]

Is there anything developmental going on for her? 
I ask as my DD is also going through 2-1 & went from alternating 1 & 2 nap days to suddenly waking at 5.30-45 every morning and then needing a tiny CN around 9.45 to get to her after lunch nap. Then yesterday she started cruising & doing new things with her toys and slept until 6.30. I am starting to wonder whether developmental leaps cause EW.

I hope she had an ok night after her OT nap day.