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HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« on: August 05, 2016, 09:04:09 am »
I've got a 7 month old who has suddenly stopped napping and self soothing.
I can't remember when exactly she stopped sucking her thumb but about less than a week now?

Previously I had her on a very loose EASY routine of two long (1.75-2hr) naps and a short nap and A time ranging from 1.5-2 hours. Bed time was always difficult as she was often over tired  (because she's up from her second nap around school drop off time and with dinner and bedtime for my other 3 very young DCs) I'm not able to get her down soon enough.

All of a sudden, she's stopped sucking her thumb and whenever I try putting her down for a nap she soon starts crying. Previously, when I put her down for a nap she may fuss a little but very quickly goes off on her own. My other three are quite loud and yet she was able to fall asleep even in a noisy environment. Now nothing seems to be working. I've resolved to letting her fall asleep on the boob as that's the only time she actually sleeps but the minute I try putting her in her cot she wakes up and starts crying. 

I'm at my wits end now. And thoroughly underslept. It's summer holidays and I have all four LO's home so I really need to get her to nap. Not to mention she's obviously very tired.

Any ideas? Oh before I end, I've tried PU/PD on two occasions unsuccessfully. First time for about an hour and 15 minutes and the other time for less than 30 minutes. She actually just cried the whole time so I had to hold her for a lot longer. I'd put her down she would cry, I pick her up but she would still be crying for a long while before I can put her down again. I'm so confused now. Don't know where to start from  ??? :'(

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Re: HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2016, 11:28:51 am »
I think the culprit might be your A times hun.  At 7 months you are looking at an A time of 3+ hrs (my DD is usually somewhere between 3.15-3.5hrs) so I think it's probably not the fact that she can't self soothe, it's that she doesn't want to because she's not ready for sleep yet.

Just to give you an idea (since our LOs are close in age), our rough routine is:

WU 6:30
Nap 9:45-11:30
Nap 3-4
BT 7

This is a great link to reference:
Average A times- BOOKMARK ME!

Do you think you can work on pushing her A times? Note that sometimes LOs can act tired earlier simply because they need a change in stimulation/activity or because they've become used to/conditioned to taking a nap at roughly the same time each day.



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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2016, 13:30:29 pm »
Hmmm well I'll certainly try that. Thank you. I am going to have a go at trying your routine too. I do think that she would get overtired with a 3hr A time but I'm willing to give anything a try right now.

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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2016, 13:51:06 pm »
Yes give it a go!  Like I said she might 'seem' tired earlier but it is likely just because she needs things a little changed up.  She should be able to handle a 3hr A fairly easily :)  Let me know how you get on!



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Re: HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2016, 10:26:04 am »
Hi Lindsay
So I've been trying to up her A times. Take today for instance, she was up by 6'ish. She had some breast milk and then some porridge. Then some more breast milk. In between a little play here and there I put her down before 10 but after about 20 minutes or so she started crying. She's obviously tired but just can't go off on her own.

Yesterday was the same thing. In fact she only managed one measly nap yesterday. For about an hour. After that I tried several times but she just kept waking up after a few minutes. To be fair, she had tummy issues yesterday so each time I tried putting her down, when she started crying, her nappy was soiled.

I'm still really confused

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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2016, 14:09:57 pm »
I'm really wondering if she's still a little UT hun.  I would try to get to a 3hr A and stick to it for a good 3-4 days at least and see what happens.  It might just take a few days for her to adjust to the new A time and she may act a little OT at first but in the long run pushing those As is the best thing.  Did she used to self settle?  I'm thinking that maybe if you stay with her for a few minutes with just a hand on her, she may just need a little reassurance to settle?



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Re: HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2016, 05:20:15 am »
Hi Lindsay
It may not have anything to do with UT actually. She's teething. She used to self soothe and no matter how UT she was (for example if I put her in her cot a bit early) she would just suck her thumb and soon be off. What I found was that if I took too long to put her down, she wouldn't settle.

So the day I last posted, I did the whole bedtime routine and put her down. She didn't settle so I tried PU/PD. That was horrible. I felt like such a rubbish mom! She cried so much that I hardly did much of the putting down. So I'd pick her up, and she would cry for so long then once she stopped I put her down and she'd start crying again (but wouldn't stop even when I pick her up).

I tried just rubbing her back. She didnt like that much. Lots of tears there too. I did PU/PD for about an hour. She was so tired she was asleep crying. But once I start PD she cried. In the end, I climbed into her cot ::) :o
I probably had a little  :'( too.

As it stands, she's refusing to go down period. I've not been able to get her to go off on her own for several days now. I'm wondering what it could be as even when she has had many hours A time she's still not going off. I stay in the room and reassure her but still no luck.

What would you suggest???

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Re: HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2016, 14:17:50 pm »
Sorry things have gone wonky for you hun, can you post your rough EAS (what time she wakes up, what time you are attempting a nap etc.) so I can get an idea of your day and see if anything jumps out.  If you think teeth are affecting her are you medicating at all? I find the ibprophen/Advil helps the best.  Are you able to AP her at all, rocking etc?



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Re: HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2016, 20:03:45 pm »
Hi Lindsay
Thank you.

I haven't medicated because she seems fine… until it's BT or nap time. Then she gets super fussy.

Today she had two really long naps in her car seat as i went out of town and was driving for about 4 hours. So today she was

E 6:30 (BF) & 8:30
A 7-9:15
S 9:30-11:45 (in car while driving)

E 12:10 & 1:20
A 12:30-2:40
S 2:50-5:00 (in car while driving)

E 5:20 & 6
A 5:40-7:20
BT 8:00
She started fussing after a while so DH had to hold her while I put the other DC to bed.
I've fed her again and will try putting her down again. I expect it would be a struggle so may have to breastfeed to sleep.

If I can have her do what I've listed above everyday I'd be so so happy. Like I said before, she was once a self soother so she often went off on her own. But the last time she's fallen asleep on her own was about 5 days ago.  like her day to go
And it's not for lack of not trying- on a day when we're home, I'm trying several times to put her down without success.

So do give me some tips. Desperately need some normalcy (and good bad) back in my life  :-\

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Re: HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2016, 23:44:29 pm »
Okay so even though those naps were in the car, it looks like 3hr A time was good for her so when you are home I would try to stick with that, I usually only allow about 10mins for settling so I would take her into her room around the 2:50hr mark.

It does sound like teeth could be a factor so maybe try meds just to see if it makes a difference at all.

On the birth club many mamas mentioned a rise in separation anxiety around this age so that could be playing a factor as well.  I've never personally done PU/PD because I found it to be too stimulating and it sounds like that may have been the case with your DD too.  What I would try is a gradual withdrawl type method when you lay her in her crib and hold a hand on her, calming her and staying with her until she's asleep.  You may need to AP a little bit, rock her, hold her until she's calm but keeping your presence there. I think we have a sticky on that somewhere, I am going to find it and post it for you.



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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2016, 02:50:37 am »
Oh Lindsay you hit the nail on its head! She IS having separation anxiety!
I will try meds and see how it goes. Pls verify, AP means actively pacify? Sorry, I'm still new on this forum.
And when I do put my hand on her back or her tummy, am I to just continue on even if she's crying? Last night, I rocked her to sleep. She was so tired. I laid next to her and rocked her. Probably not the best way but when I tried the same thing in her cot she didn't settle she Cried so much that she worked herself right up.
So I'll try for 3hr A time and Rick to sleep. What about NW? She's gone from never waking up at night (but I did one or two feeds at night because she was slow to gain (whole other story there!) to now waking up several times. What do you suggest for NW?

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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2016, 10:39:26 am »
Omg Lindsay, she did it!!! She fell asleep on her own! So so happy! I did a very short settle left her with a comforter and a dummy as I've been doing recently and she went off all on her own. She didn't use the dummy but she managed to fall asleep on her own. 

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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2016, 13:55:07 pm »
Yay!! Great news!!!

AP is 'accidental parenting' - so rocking, holding, bouncing...basically whatever you need to do.  We don't like to make a habit out of these things, but sometimes during certain periods (teething, illness, separation anxiety) we do what we need to!  The great thing is that you know she can self settle and she will get back to that point.

How was the night?  If she was previously sleeping through I do wonder if teeth is to blame.  My DD also sleeps through but a few times last week she was waking every half hour, so finally I gave her meds at 10:30pm and she finally settled for the rest of the night.



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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2016, 05:41:55 am »
Hi Lindsay
After she fell asleep on her own, she woke up within about 45 minutes or so. She had a dirty nappy which is what woke her up. I breastfed her to sleep and she continued sleeping for another hour or so (had to wake her up for my Dr appointment). She was OT by bedtime and I tried rocking and had my hand on her chest/tummy. No joy. I medicated and still she just whined/cried. Eventually breastfed her while laying next to her. She fell asleep but this time at least she stayed sleeping when moved to her cot. She had about 3 NW. Then up before 6! Trying again to let her self soothe/settle as I'm so desperately underslept. She's having none of it.
Do you really think she'll go back to self soothing? I'd pay lots to have her do that again!

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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2016, 18:54:26 pm »
Hi Lindsay so the tiny progress we made yesterday has been very short lived. I tried today to get her to nap on her own and she didn't/wouldn't. She had a very short nap while I was driving but other than that, she's been up the whole day. It looks like I can only get her sleep if i nurse to sleep but even then she wakes up the minute I put her down. And she doesn't go back to sleep. I have tried the rocking, patting her back but she works herself up so much that she would wake up completely.
Any suggestions? Really struggling to cope as I've got three other LO's who are all quite young/very close in age.

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Re: HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2016, 12:04:27 pm »
Hi hun, sorry I've been away!  It sounds like she's just OT now hun and is fighting the naps.  How have the last few days been?  What A time are you working with?  If nursing is the only thing that is working right now then I would do that and after you put her down continue patting or holding if you can, but I understand that might be difficult with other LOs and you can't spend all day trying to pat her to sleep.  Sometimes it helps to just reset, so if she'll sleep in the car maybe plan a day out and get her some sleep that way so she's a little caught up yk?  Then you can kind of start from scratch.



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Re: HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2016, 19:54:12 pm »
Hi Lindsay
Thanks for that. Hope you had a nice break.
You're right about her being OT.
Today she's done really well. I rocked/held her to sleep for her first nap. I don't think she even managed a 3hr A time but I could see she was tired so I rocked her and she eventually fell asleep.
She had a short nap, maybe just over an hour.
She had a shorter A time this time around, probably 2 hours and did a short settle and left her to it. She fell asleep on her own. Not even a sound or a fuss. And this time she had about a 2 hour nap.
I'm going to see how the night goes but hopefully she would go down easily. The last few nights it's taken me over 2 hours to put her down so I'm really praying she builds up on this afternoon's success  :D

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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2016, 00:55:54 am »
Fantastic!! You are right, sometimes all it takes is 1 good day to kind of reset everything.  I hope you have a good night!



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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2016, 19:30:46 pm »
Hi Lindsay
I've just got a quick question. When I'm putting LO to bed and she's OT, what can I try?
So I sometimes let her fall asleep while I'm holding her, but when I try putting her in her cot she starts crying. If I try just putting my hand on her back to reassure her that I'm still here she still cries. She would only stop if I pick her up (and sometimes she wouldn't even stop for a long time). What can I do?


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Re: HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2016, 07:36:08 am »
Hi there
Lindsay might not be able to get on for a few days so I wanted to stop by with some support.

I had a bit of a read through your thread, it seems your biggest concern is if your LO will be able to get back to self settling, all the threads I've seen with LOs who can self settle they return to it just as soon as they can, that was my experience with my own DS too.  If he needed help he got it whilst I tried to work out if there was something else going on (teething, routine tweak needed, developmental leap etc).  It's hard work in the mean time but try not to worry too much about hte self settlign aspect, she'll do it :)

Would you like to post your recent EAS times?  Sometimes OT can be confused with UT and an UT LO can really resist BT, it looks very similar to OT with the crying.  I'll have a look if you like?


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« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2016, 10:24:22 am »
Hi creations
Thanks for getting back to me. LO has been so poorly so everything has been thrown completely off. She had hives from having scrambled eggs then she had what seemed like q viral infection which she's still recovering from. I'm giving her all the help she needs but still I sometimes wonder if I can do more or if I'm doing the right thing.
Right now she's been up for over 5 hours but is resisting going down. I'm holding her for ages. Like 10 minutes so she's happy and settled. Put her in cot and she cries. Yesterday she managed to go down for her nap on her own but today not sure what's happening.

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« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2016, 18:42:12 pm »
Oh dear. Sorry to hear she's been so poorly and there is so much sleep disturbance.

During illness or recovery from illness, honestly, do not worry about how much help you give. I know it's exhausting and you'd rather she went down easily, totally understand that!  But don't add to the stress and frustration of it by worrying about bad habits.  Really, trust that she will still return to self settling when she can and/or that it will be a relatively easy wean if any prop/habits persist.  You wouldn't believe how much time I've spent helping my DS through certain phases or illnesses, and he is *very* independent when he sleeps.

Maybe try to hold her in a laying position rather than up to your shoulder so the positioning is more similar to laying in her cot.  Then when you put her down keep your hands on her firmly, even under her so in effect you are still holding but inside the cot.  You can rest your hands and her weigh ton the mattress.  This might be more comforting for her than going from upright and held to in the cot in one move.  From this position it may also be possible if she fusses to lift just slightly, like a few cm off the mattress to give a little movement, even a small rocking, and again rest your hands back down, you can even use your firm hands to give a little rocking in the cot if she finds this soothing.  You might have more luck doing this a little...the aim is the same to get her sleeping in her cot of course.


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« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2016, 11:11:50 am »
I agree during any illness it is hard to expect anything to be what it was.  My DD is just getting over a viscous cold and similarly after a horrendous night she refuses to nap the next day, I resorted to sleeping with her in my bed she was so OT and couldn't settle at all.  Creations have given some good suggestions, things will return back to normal hun!

What kind of routine are you working with/aiming for right now?



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« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2016, 21:27:48 pm »
Hi Lindsay and Creations
You guys have both been amazing. She's finally well now. I've got zero routine at present. Out of town driving and funerals to attend so no routine at all. I tried putting her down just now. Nursed her to sleep and then after some time transferred her to her cot. Boy, you should hear the wailing. Like how dare you do that mommy?!!!  ??? So much so half an hour later I'm still trying to settle her down.
I will get back to trying a four hour easy like the one you had suggested initially Lindsay. Once school is back and things more settled. I'm sure I'd be reaching out for more help very soon.
Thanks creations I'll definitely just do whatever gets her to sleep. Your ideas sound fantastic.

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« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2016, 01:59:50 am »
My DD was just sick so I completely get where you are coming from, 2 weeks later and now all naps are 30mins ::). It's SO hard to get back on track!  And yes, lots of crying and not self settling here too, which I think is just because we AP so much when they are sick that when you stop they are like...uhhhh, you aren't going to just hold me to sleep anymore!? Lol

Do reach out with your routine once things have settled, always happy to help if I can!



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Re: HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2016, 07:35:04 am »
Sorry to hear you're both suffering with off track routines (hugs).


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« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2016, 15:48:12 pm »
I think I may have created a monster 😱
She's not even wanting to play independently. The dummy I offer her seems to stimulate her more. She starts jabbering away. Nothing is working except nursing for comfort and everything else in between.
As a family, we have had lots of grieving and so much has been going on so that doesn't help at all. I'm praying for strength and patience until things settle. In the meantime DD is definitely in princess mode and I have no choice but to oblige her 😩

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Re: HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2016, 18:06:21 pm »
Ah, hugs. You haven't created a monster. But understandably this is a really difficult time for everyone.
Take care of yourself.  Whatever habits might creep in can be sorted out.  We're here x


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Re: HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2016, 23:47:59 pm »
Yes there is nothing that can't be undone!

If you want you can post your EASY/what you are trying right now, even if it is rough, something might jump out.  Routines are changing constantly so it often feels like the second you have something figured out it all goes to pot and you are left trying to figure it out all over ::)



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Re: HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2016, 06:39:10 am »
Hiya ladies
I am hoping to start getting my DD back on track next week and would love some help please.

Ideally this is what I would like to work towards achieving-
W/u & first feed 6:30
A - 6:45/7:45
E - breakfast with all DC 7:45-8
A - 8:45-9:30
S - 9:45/10-11:45

E - 11:45
A - 12:15-2:45
S - 3:30 - 4:45

E - 5:00
A - 5:30-6:45
S - (BD/BT) 7/7:15
What do yous think?

I have three other DC from 2y8mths to 5 years. So I need to fit in DD's naps in between school drop offs and pick ups etc.

I'm not too fussed about specific times tbh. I just want to be able to help DD to be able to fall asleep on her own again.

I have some specific questions -
When I am trying to put her down for a nap she often resists. Sometimes it's because she's overtired but I think the main problem is that Breastfeeding is being used as a prop. Pls can you give me some ideas of how to break this habit?

The other thing is that at night I feed her while laying down. I suppose this is a form of co sleeping? I'm not sure. So when she wakes up for a feed I get her from her cot and lay her next to me while she nurses. It's the only way I can get some sleep so that I can function or be able to be alert for my other DC during the day. What I'm finding is that when I do try to put her back in her cot she sometimes resists. Again, any tips on how to help her to be able to fall asleep on her own?

I've sort of given up on the idea of her going back to self soothing. She just isn't interested and I'm ok with that. But I do want her to not need my nipple as a prop. I'd like to try something like the gentle removal plan I read on one of the threads. But anything that you have tried that works would really be helpful.

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Re: HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2016, 10:42:56 am »
Some of the resistance at nap time may be OT or it may be UT - just be aware that UT can be very hard to get LO down for incase you haven't experienced this with your other LOs.

Here's the link to Pantely's Gentle Removal Plan in case you couldn't find it
Gentle Removal Plan
It's a starting point really, and use whichever parts you feel are appropriate for you and LO.  The only way to break a habit is to creak it, you can go slowly or you can go quickly but movement forward needs to be there or it won't go.
I can't suggest anything based on my own experience as I didn't BF, co-sleep or have any props, but I'm happy to stop by to support!


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Re: HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2016, 04:27:54 am »
Thanks creations
It's not going well 😕
While yesterday wasn't a total failure, it wasn't a success either. I'm really struggling.
She was tired after only a 2.5hr A time. I couldn't put her down as I was getting set to take DC to school. In the end, she fell asleep on the way home but woke up as I was taking her out of her car seat. She resisted going down. I breastfed her and let her play for another 30 minutes. And this time she went down with minimal fussing.

I reluctantly woke her up after about 1.75hrs. Again she was tired before the 4hr mark but I couldn't put her down as I was doing school pick ups. When I finally did try she was OT and the resistance was strong! I tried for a repeat of the morning's success but no luck. She fell asleep crying in my arms.  Cue horrible guilty feelings.
BT was just as unsuccessful and stressful. Two NW and even managed to wake all the DC. Feeling like such a crap mom and so confused 😐

I want to nip this and get back to normalcy sooner rather than later so the gentle removal plan may not be ideal. I just don't think I can go another two weeks of this. I've spent the past hour reading about PU/PD. I will try using that today at nap time.
It's unbelievable how much a crying baby resisting sleep can affect one's mental wellbeing 😩😕

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Re: HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2016, 19:54:31 pm »
Oh dear, I'm so sorry to hear you've had such a bad day :(

Hopefully tomorrow will be better.
I'd suggest if you are going to move ot PUPD that you work out what routine you want to go for, write it down, and then do the PUPD at those times rather than winging it through the day. Many people are successful with getting LOs into a routine around school runs by being pretty strict on the routine times.

Would you also like to begin a PUPD thread for support with that? I have not used this method so whilst I can hand-hold you may prefer some BTDT experience from others in the community who have used the method.
What do you think?


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Re: HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2016, 05:38:49 am »
Hi Creations
I was actually thinking of doing that. I just had t figured out how to or where to post. Running on very little sleep and caffeine hasn't helped either 😳
Yesterday was a little bit better. After the crying math at 4am she stayed up until some time during school drop off. Woke up as she was being taken out of car seat but went down in her cot with only a little fuss. She had a good 2hour S. Then about 2.5hr A time. I think I was able to read her cues well this time so I let her have 30 minute S before school pick up. This time she went down without much fuss. I thought she could do with a cat nap before BT but she resisted so I let her stay up and have a cuddle with DH.
Did BT routine she went down quietly and I held my breath for half an hour. After which she started demanding her prop! I used PU/PD successfully I think. Took about 30 minutes or so before she went down. Had two or three NW and used PU/PD. Took about an hour or so each time. I almost wavered as I thought awww my poor baby. She's probably hungry plus my breasts were aching like never before. Oh but I didn't cave in. She managed to go back down and sleeep until I woke her up for a cheery morning smile cuddle and feed.

I'm hoping it gets better from now. I'll post on the PU/PD thread today if I run into any hitches. Or maybe just for some encouragement cuz I sure need it.

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Re: HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2016, 01:53:10 am »
Hi Creations
My EASY is not working 🙁😒I'm struggling to work around school times.
You had mentioned there are moms doing school runs with EASY routines that work. Please can you give me a run through? 

Yesterday this was her EASY
WU & E 6:25
A 6:45 - 7:45
E 7:45
A 8 - 9:15
S 9:15 - 9:35 (she fell asleep in the car) but resisted her nap when I tried transferring her to her cot
A 10:15 - 10:45
E 10:45
A 11
S 11:45 - 1:45(she was showing signs of tiredness)
E 1:50
A 1:50 - 4:50 (tried putting her down but resisted)
A 4:50 -6:30
E & BT routine 6:30
S 7
Not very good is it.
I've posted on the sleep board too…

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Re: HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2016, 10:32:23 am »
You had mentioned there are moms doing school runs with EASY routines that work. Please can you give me a run through? 
Sorry not really no. As I only have one DS I have not experienced the joys of a baby and the school run.  The only thing I can really suggest (which I said in previous post) is to work out the routine you *can* do as best fit for LO and around school run and just stick to it to get her into a habit.
I did have some non-movable appointments twice per week with my DS so I made his routine based on A time for morning naps and then almost "set" naps for the rest of the day to work around our appointment time. I then kept all days as close to that as possible to maintain the habit and consistency.  It meant for us having a non-standard routine which fitted and worked well enough for us to get by. This is my suggestion for your routine.

I know there are a few people trying to fit in school runs around now and perhaps some other threads asking for support on this. Maybe you guys can support one another with ideas? I'm not sure. Thing is if there is someone experienced willing to "pay it forward" in the community then you could get help with a suitable thread title to attract the experienced eyes...otherwise you're kind of stuck with me who has no experience of either the school run with a baby in tow nor PUPD.

What I can say is that at 9 months the A time is likely closer to 3.5hrs now or even longer.  Waking her later or earlier in the morning might help to fit that A time in and avoid having her drop off in the car on the way.  But you might really need to push the routine to make it happen.


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Re: HELP - 7m/o suddenly stopped self soothing and napping
« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2016, 11:36:03 am »
Hi hun, can you do your easy with A being eyes open to eyes shut and sleep eyes shut to eyes open?

So
Wake/E 625
A:625-9:15
S 915-9:35
A:935-?? Thanks
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