more HELP required with unpredictable 8 month old

[Clairehv]

Hi
Here I am again, still seeing no real improvements in our nights with DD2.
we also have very unpredictable naps and the
 tiredness coupled with DD1 also waking is really getting me down.
I will focus on DD1 in this post though.
She is 8 months and 1 week now, I am offering solids 3x a day and trying my hardest to get the milk oz in but she just isn't interested.

Here are some examples of our days and nights over the past week

Monday 9th (34 weeks)

WU 5.50 am ( wouldn't resettle)
E 7am 4 oz (wouldn't take more
7.45am porridge
S (fell asleep on school run) 8.30-8.40, 9.10-9.50 in pram
E 10.30 6oz
E 12.00 lunch- 1/3 jar + fruit pot
S 1pm-1.25pm ( wouldnt resettle)
E 2.30 6oz
S 3.50-4.30pm
E 5pm veg puree + custard
E 6.30pm 8 oz bottle
S 7pm
dummy at 12.00 & 12.45am
5.20am woke, wouldn't resettle, tried bottle
5.40am 5 oz

Tuesday
WU 5.20am (urgh urgh urgh)
E 5.40 am 5oz
7 am refused bottle
7.20am porridge & fruit & yoghurt
S 8.10-9.10 (in car on way to swim)
swimming
E 11am veg in cheese sauce, fruit custard
S 11.45-1pm
E 1.45pm 6oz
S 3.55pm-4.35pm
E 5pm solids
E 6.20 6oz
S 6.55pm-
dummy @ 1am and 2am then slept
WU 6.20 am

Thursday
WU 5.20am wouldn't settle ( did realsie at 6.30 she had a dirty nappy)
6.45am 5oz
7.30am porridge and fruit
S 9.20-10am ( in pram from 8.45am)
E 10.30am 2oz
12pm lunch ( barely any)
S 12.50-1.30pm ( wouldn't resettle)
E 2.30 6oz
S 4.05-4.45pm
E 5pm chicken puree + yoghurt
E 6.30pm 8oz
S 7.10pm-
E ( thought we would try a dreamfeed to try and stop the 5am wakes)
10.30pm DF 3oz
WU 2am, wouldn't resettle so
2.40am 120 ml of (3 scoops in 7 oz)
S 3am-5.30am

Sunday
WU 6.30am
E 7.20am 60ml
E 8am breakfast
s 9.30-10.50am ( wow)
E 11.30 lunch
E 12.45 6 oz milk ( was crying for it)
S 2-4pm
E 4.10 2 oz
5pm tea- not interested
6.30 7oz
S 7pm- two dummy runs pre 10pm
1am dummy
3 am wake, left until 3.20am, 3.30 am 3 oz
s 4am- 6.45am

Monday 23rd
WU 6.45ish
E 7.20am 60ml ( she is just never interested in her morning bottle)
8 am porridge

S 9.35-10.30 in cot
E 11am 50 ml ( offfered as had had no milk in am)
12pm lunch
S 1.15-3.45pm (What??? is she ill? )
E 4pm 7 oz bottle
E fussy tea
E 6.20 7 oz milk
S 6.45-
several dummy runs pre 10pm
1am dummy
.3.30 wake, unsettled, 3.40am offered bottle wouldnt take
finally asleep
4.55am-6am - dummy, then 6.05-7am


So when I can i push her to 3 hour A time but sometimes she really cannot manage it. My only two full days with her are monday and tuesdays. On the other days if I have DD1 I cannot spend 30 mins trying to resettle after a 40 min nap, so those have to be three nap days

regardless if we dream feed she wakes up and doesn't self settle very often. I am nervous of getting rid of the dummy but feel that may be the only way.

She has such a low milk intake that i am trying to keep the mid afternoon bottle however if she sleeps over that 2-3pm slot, the milk seems to knock her off wanting her tea.
Regardless of whether she has had a bottle in the night or not she is not keen on the first am bottle even if she is awake for an hour.

I am just at a loss really of how to make sense of our days to try and get the nights on track.
I cannot believe I am still up 3-6 times a night with an 8 month old.
I am exhausted

Any advice? x
 

[Lindsay27]

So when I can i push her to 3 hour A time but sometimes she really cannot manage it. My only two full days with her are monday and tuesdays. On the other days if I have DD1 I cannot spend 30 mins trying to resettle after a 40 min nap, so those have to be three nap days

I would try to keep her A at a minimum of 3hrs as much as possible.  Looking at your days it does seem to show she has better naps when her A times are higher.  I totally get that on days you have your other DD you can't spend lots of time resettling, so don't, and like you said if you have a 3 nap day then so be it.  But I think if you consistently keep her A times around 3hrs it might help regulate her naps a bit.  After 6 months I pretty well said 'no naps before 9am regardless of WU' because that just perpetuated EWs. 

How much milk do you think she gets on an average day?  Neither of mine were huge milk drinkers, and I think on average they were around 18-20oz per day, and both maintained their growth curve and are perfectly healthy and happy.

[Clairehv]

Hi,
Well last night was a comparatively great night.
First dummy resettle at around 12am, then 3am then WU 6.40am (maybe a bit earlier
So after no night milk I expected her intake to increase however here is today's EASY. She has been a bit fussy and clingy as well (gosh I hope we get the tooth soon)

WU 6.40am ish
7.10 - 4oz (make up 7oz bottle)
7.45 breakfast: porridge + fruit
S (fussing from 9.15) 9.35-10.15
E (crying for lunch) 11.30 salmon + veg mush, finger food yoghurt + fruit
S 1.05-2.30pm
3pm 4 oz (low intake)
S was crying from 4 15 rubbing eyes obviously tired so S 4.40-5pm (I woke)
E 5.15 tea
E 6.40 only 4oz (usually has
S 7.10pm ......

So milk wise on a typical day she has maybe 18oz today was only 12 + 2 on porridge.

She is gaining weight and sitting on the 50th curve so that's ok although until this week was typically having milk in the night as well

X

[creations]

E (crying for lunch) 11.30 salmon + veg mush, finger food yoghurt + fruit

Don't forget dairy solids count toward milk intake too, there may be another 1-2 oz of yoghurt there, or even more.

[Clairehv]

Hi
Yes as she isn't the greatest milk drinker I am focussed on getting dairy into her at every opportunity xx