Help! 14mo NW

[clarem100]

Hello

I could do with some advice with NW please.
We have recently transitioned my 14mo to 1 nap as it was getting to be a real struggle to get her to have 2. On the whole, she is dealing pretty well with it and I think we are largely avoiding OT. however, she occasionally has nights where she wakes and will then stay awake for an hour or an hour and a half. I generally don't go in to her as this seems to make it worse and apart from crying for a few seconds when she initially wakes, she mostly just lies there talking to herself. The problem is, once she wakes me up, I have great difficulty getting back to sleep so this is affecting me a lot. When she woke at 2.50 one night last week that was it for me for the night! I do have anxiety and struggle to relax when I know that she is still in there awake.
So my question is how to survive with the NW. she has cut a lot of teeth recently but generally I think when these are causing her problems, she cries out in her sleep rather than waking to chat.
Would you still stick with a 1 nap the day after a disturbed night? I worry about making her OT. She doesn't have a dummy or anything else in bed with her.
I should also add that For naps she is normally asleep withon10 minutes but at bedtime it's more often 30/40 minutes which hasn't changed since she changed to 1 nap

21/03
6.35
11.10-12.30
12.43?-1.30
7.09

Cried in sleep from 4.30


22/03
6.53
11.25-1.18
7.08?


Cried at 8.30 and 10.40 but stayed asleep

23/03
6:52
11.35?-12.18
4.08?-4.36 sling.
7.38



Cried in sleep on and off all night

24/03
6.31
11.07?-1.29
7?


Cried briefly at 9 but slept all night

25/03
6.25
11.25?-12.40 asleep maybe earlier
7.05?


Cried out once in night

26/03 clocks change
7.40?
12.10?-2 woke up
7.30? (Not sure when she fell asleep)


27/03
6.52
11.25?-12.40? Cried when woke up
6.40?


28/03
6.45
11.18-2.03
Cried at 12.30 but stayed asleep
7.25?  Not sure exactly


Cried out a few times and woke briefly

29/03
7
11.33-1.30 woke up
7.14

30/03
6.58
11.33?-12.37
6.44

Awake 2.53-4.20

31/03
6.27
10.35-11.41 woke up
3.53-4.28 cuddled as wouldn't sleep in bed
7.18

[clarem100]

01/04
7.52
12.25?-2.10
7.28 (had done a poo)


02/04
6.44
11.25-12.51
7.20


03/04
7.20
12-1.45
7.28


04/04
5.45
6.45???-7.26
12-1.25
6.55


05/04
6.19
7.45?-8.08
12.30?-1.48
7?

Awake 4.30-6?


06/04
7.10

[clarem100]

So we had another NW last night. 1 hour 50 minutes 
Thankfully she has slept in late this morning so has caught up a bit on sleep but I  anxious about these NW and how long she is staying awake for

06/04
7.10
11.50?-1.13 (couldn't put her down any earlier)
7.10


Cried out at midnight and woke for 10 minutes

07/04
7
11.47?-2 woke up. Cried at 1.15 but stayed asleep
7.20


08/04
7
11.32?-12.48
7.10

Awake 2.20-4.10

[Haribo2012]

Hi maybe you put the odd CN in if you think the Ot is building up? My DS2 is 14 months and we have mostly 2 nap dats and some 1 nap days.

[clarem100]

Hello
Second naps became a nightmare (would only sleep if I was holding her) so I'm trying to avoid that as much as I can. Could the NW be due to OT?

[Haribo2012]

It could be but generally OT NW are easily settled, if it's prolonged or lots of crying could be discomfort.

Can you not get a car CN in? I can pretty much get 20 mins if I time a car ride right?

I find if nap is less than 1.5 hours and ends before 2pm then I need another quick micro nap in otherwise we get night wake ups.

If you can only get 1 nap I'd prob try pushing to 12 noon and see if you can get a good 1.5/2 hour nap, or bring BT 15 mins earlier.

Do you try medicine at NW?

[ladymugg]

My goodness this sounds very similar to what is happening here, although transitioned to one nap a couple of months ago.  Keen to follow and hear suggestions.  In the meantime, take care

[clarem100]

She generally cries when she wakes in the night - like she's upset at being woken. But then she will just lie there awake and sometimes chatting so I just leave her to it unless she cries again. I have been medicating before bed but have stopped as it doesn't seem to be making any difference. She has cut a lot of teeth recently.
Husband has the car for work so I can't do a car nap and I have my 4yo home with me so can't easily go out
I have tried bed at 6/6.15 on the days where she hasn't napped long but she still takes at least 30 minutes to fall asleep, sometimes longer :-/

[Haribo2012]

Could be developmental, is she walking or babbling a lot? Might just be a case of keeping that nap at midday and waiting it out then if another nap is a no go.
I remember with my DS1 it took a good couple of months for the nap to get to 2 hours consistently x

[clarem100]

yes she is babbling a lot. Only walking holding hands at the moment but i don't think it will be too long before she is off. I remember with my eldest it was only around 18 months that she started napping for 2-3 hours. Before that she would survive on 40 minutes! but she slept a solid 12-13 hours at night so I never really worried about it!

[Haribo2012]

Possibly those 2 new skills are causing it x

[clarem100]

I do hope so - at least then it's temporary!

[Haribo2012]

Fingers crossed x

[clarem100]

another question - lots of her naps are exactly 1 hour 20 minutes. She was a chronic 40 minute napper and now she seems to do 2 sleep cycles. Is there any way to lengthen them? Wake 2 sleep generally doesnt work with her

[Lindsay27]

This first thing that jumped out to me when I looked over the routine is that I think she could be UT.  She's giving you decent WUs anywhere from 6:30-7:30am, so I would not do a nap before 12 noon.  1.20hr naps are also a pretty classic sign of UT.  I would actually try to set a nap at say 12:30.  My DD is slightly older, but we now have a set nap of 1pm and her WU is usually 6:30am.