Does my routine need to take a step back?

[Shiv52]

Lol. I know. I always think I'm getting somewhere then right back to the start.

What A time are you working off? I wonder as you had a few settled days did OT settle and A times
Need a gentle push.

[LaraAndrea]

4h in the AM
315/325 for 2nd AT the last 2days
3h before bed

[LaraAndrea]

The last time she started fighting her 2nd nap it preceded her first 2 teeth coming through. Could her next ones be coming already??

[Shiv52]

If she's handling 4 hours in the morning and having a decent nap then maybe she needs some more after that. Can you just post your day?

How is she for self settling?

And yes those teeth just keep coming!

[LaraAndrea]

630 wake (recently she has had some EW 530-615)
645 BF
815 solids
945 BF top up
1030 sleep
12:00 wake
1230 solids
145 BF
315-330 sleep (this used to be ~60-90 min, depending on first nap. Total day sleep usually 2.5-3h)
*Now she is fighting and won't settle... APOP is often required
430-445 wake BF
600 solids
730 BF and BT

*Some random crying at night. Eyes closed/asleep... Dreaming?

*Normally she self settles for naps and bed, so when she doesn't within 10-15 min I know there is trouble

[jessmum46]

When we had a similar routine I did a longer second A time (my LO would always fight if UT) and then a shorter last A - so something like:

6.30 WU
!0.30-12 nap
4-4.45 nap
BT 7/7.15ish

Eventually it even went to a 4.5h second A time with second nap at 4.30-5ish and kept with BT at 7/7.15pm.

Worth a try?

[Shiv52]

I agree that you may need that 4 hour a time to get a second nap.

[LaraAndrea]

6.30 WU
!0.30-12 nap
4-4.45 nap
BT 7/7.15ish

Eventually it even went to a 4.5h second A time with second nap at 4.30-5ish and kept with BT at 7/7.15pm.

Worth a try?

Yes... Worth a try.

I am finding that her AM AT is creeping up too.

How old was your LO when they transitioned to 1 nap? At this rate I am going to run out of time in the day soon.

[jessmum46]

I think we started with 1 nap days at 10 months, it was messy for a while then probably settled on one nap at about 13 months x

[Shiv52]

We were about 11 months and fully on one nap by 1yo. My DD3 would ideally be on one nap but I have to wake her for school runs so it doesn't often work out.  So annoying. I miss the days of one baby and a 2.5 hour nap in the middle of the day! I watched the box set of Buffy the vampire slayer 😂

[LaraAndrea]

I also find that my LO is particular about activity level during AT. She is very active. If I so much as put her in bouncer chair to take shower, or in stroller for a walk etc. She can be UT at regular nap times.

It is helpful when she has early wakes though, easier to get back on track.

[jessmum46]

DD was very similar, we had to avoid full A times in the car/pushchair when we could or we'd inevitably get a bad nap afterwards.

[LaraAndrea]

When we had a similar routine I did a longer second A time (my LO would always fight if UT) and then a shorter last A - so something like:

6.30 WU
!0.30-12 nap
4-4.45 nap
BT 7/7.15ish

Eventually it even went to a 4.5h second A time with second nap at 4.30-5ish and kept with BT at 7/7.15p

Today is looking almost exactly like your above example. This is our new normal, for now (when she has a good night)

I know it is too early for 2-1 transition, but I also know that the actual transition can take a long time.

My LO has been increasing her AM and PM AT at a pretty steady rate. Soon she will be running out of time in her day.

Looking at your suggestion and at the 2-1 board I am wondering how best to move fwd as her AT increases.

Right now I am capping her AM nap at 1:45 and hoping for 45-60 PM nap. This gets us to bed around 715-730 and up between 6 and 630 (when the stars are all aligned of course)

Thinking of the inevitable 2-1 transition coming up would it be best if I did not cap the AM nap and allow the PM nap to naturally go later and shorter (short AT before bed)?

Or

Should I cap the AM nap further (90 min) to get a bit of time back and possible longer PM nap?

My instincts say not to fight a natural transition. But if there is one thing being a new mom has taught me, your instincts are not very reliable haha.

[jessmum46]

I went for uncapped morning nap and later/shorter pm nap until we hit pm nap refusal.  At that point we kind of just rode it out with a set nap time , but sometimes switching to a short am catnap and having a longer pm nap can help you hold on to two naps for longer which can make the transition a little easier x

[LaraAndrea]

I went for uncapped morning nap and later/shorter pm nap until we hit pm nap refusal.  At that point we kind of just rode it out with a set nap time

As everything got later in day how late (time of day) would you let the PM nap go? With a 715-730 BT