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5 1/2 mo early waking / any clue ?
« on: May 19, 2017, 12:53:16 pm »
Hello, I'm from Brazil and me and my husband have applied Tracy Hogg's methods since our LO was 5 days old. Now he is 5 1/2 mo.
(I apologize for the english, I'm trying my best)

For the past 10 days he has early waking ( by 5:20 am), I read about it here in the forum, so I'm trying the 3-2 transition naps for the last 3 days.
The problem is it doesn't seem to be working.

Our routine yesterday:

5:20 am woke up (not crying); I waited 10 min, I gave him his pacifier
6:15 am woke up, BF
8:30 am nap (I tried to stretch the longest he supported, but he had all signs of tiredness)
10:00 am BF + A
13:00 pm nap
14:20 pm BF + A
17:00 pm CN 20 min (was so tired) --> BF
19:20 bath + BF (a little, almost nothing)
20:00 pm overtired, BT (easily)
04:15 am noises, slept by himself ( by this moment I thought this would work as "wake to sleep")
05:20 am woke up, 10 min hearing, I gave his pacifier, slept
06:15 am BF
08:15 am nap (very tired)

I feel it's hard pushing his first A time by the morning.
I mean, am I doing anything wrong ? Bath time too late ?
Should I not give him the pacifier by 5 am ??

I'd appreciate if anyone could help us. Thank you.

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Re: 5 1/2 mo early waking / any clue ?
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2017, 18:39:17 pm »
Hello and welcome to BW forums :)

Does your LO usually fall to sleep with a paci?  I'm just wondering if he can fall to sleep without it at nap and bed time okay and if it is only at 5am he needs it to go back to sleep?
What happens if you don't give his paci at 5am?  Does he go back to sleep eventually or does he end up fussing and then crying?  Are you able to resettle with shush/pat?

There are only really two options to shift that morning WU (wake up) time.
- The usual way is to keep the first nap at a good time and not allow it to creep earlier, I see your first A time is getting harder and harder to keep him up and it is getting shorter.  It is okay for him to get a bit OT (over tired) for this nap for a few days whilst you get back on track. I would move it later until his WU time improves again.  As you were on a good routine before you ought to be able to get that back.  LOs are sometimes reluctant to extend the A time so you will need to encourage him and keep him awake.
- The other option is to give a long third nap rather than a CN, just for one day, then do a full A time and then BT, this moves BT very late for the day but it could help to shift that morning WU time.
Then with the later WU, if it is significantly later you could decide to go for a two nap day, two long naps and normal BT.

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Re: 5 1/2 mo early waking / any clue ?
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2017, 17:32:12 pm »
I really appreciate your help.

For the past 2 days the first A time were a bit longer, I'm working hard on it.

Corcerning the pacifier, I see he is able to go back to sleep most of time without it, but I never tried (shame) to begin sleeping process without it (I usually give him his pacifier and his blanked, he does the rest in a couple of minutes)! Maybe on the EW issue he is more like " the day has started".

Tonight I did the wake to sleep at 4:30, but it seemed that I caused him to wake up at 5:10 am, a continuum...

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Re: 5 1/2 mo early waking / any clue ?
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2017, 18:43:22 pm »
If you wanted to drop the paci use then the safe time (per SIDS guidance) is from 6 months. I believe this is also the time that it is advised to drop it for the health of teeth which can be damaged by lots of paci use. However lots of people choose to keep the paci longer and especially if it is only used for sleep and not all day (ie less risk of tooth damage) and LO eventually learns to re-plug.

It might be easier for now to just let him use the paci at that early Wu if it helps him go back to sleep more quickly, it could help you get a better WU time and then the day on two naps is easier to handle... then in a few weeks you could do a paci drop once he is settled into his two nap routine.
It's your choice of course.

just watch out for that last A time before BT.  When the morning A time is shorter than you need the extra time ends up at the end of the day, making a long A time before BT and that can cause disturbed night sleep and early waking...so it is worth making sure the awake time is distributed across the day and in particular that tricky first A time.