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1 year old and amount of sleep
« on: July 10, 2017, 22:43:33 pm »
My lo will turn one next week. He's been on one nap now for over 6 months. Crazy I know. But his bedtime is always early because of it and his first A time is a lot shorter than his second. At the moment he's waking around 6 am (can be earlier or as late as 615/30). His nap is around 10 so 4 hours A time. I'm trying to keep this early because I need to pick up my son at 1145 from camp so baby sleeps from 10-1130 on average and some days I need to wake him to leave by 1145 which is why im not pushing that nap out just yet. Some days he can use more A time I think and some days he's yawning and cranky at 3.5 hrs A time. But then he's up from 1130 until bedtime around 630. He's always handled this and refused the afternoon nap or isn't tired enough until like 4 pm which is too late. But the past two nights he was so tired so I put him to bed at 6 instead of 630/45 and he actually slept a little later until 615 and had a 12 hour night as opposed to the 11 hour night when I put him in close to 7. Does this make sense or is it just a coincendence? How long of a day is typical for a 1 year old on one nap?  When camp is over I'm going to try to push that nap out later to 11/1130 or preferably after lunch and hopefully get a later bedtime later morning.

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Re: 1 year old and amount of sleep
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2017, 11:15:35 am »
He was up at 515 :(. I don't want to get up at 5 am any more lol

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Re: 1 year old and amount of sleep
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2017, 13:56:36 pm »
What time are you back from camp?  Honestly that nap is way too early.  Can he not sleep on the way to camp and be transferred to bed when you get back?

I think it he's going to bed at 6/6.30 you are looking at 5/5.30 wake up if he typically does an 11 hour night. Mine did that on one nap.

The other option is to let him have a short nap at 11 for a half hour then a longer nap later on and get a later bedtime.





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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2017, 14:09:33 pm »
I'm always hesitant to change that nap because he goes down easily and sleeps for at least 1.5 hours. There's no way he can make it until 1215 which is when we get back home. He will never sleep in the car because he's all excited to see big brother and it's only a short ride. The afternoon Is always tricky because he's to nosey and his brother is home. It seems like most kids his age take their first nap anywhere from 3.5-4.5 hours A time which would put him right at 4 hrs A time. But it also seems like most still take an afternoon nap as well. I always think because he only sleeps 1.5 hours during the day that it's not crazy to get a 12 hour night but it rarely happens. 630 is an early bedtime but it is aa 12.5 hour day isn't that about right? Think I might just need to hang on another few weeks until camp is done and push that nap out a bit ?

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Re: 1 year old and amount of sleep
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2017, 18:27:28 pm »
Whenever we kept a bedtime of 6pm more than a few days, DS would wake earlier to compensate. It was a catch 22 at times. Not fun, I know.

At this age, the timing of the morning nap can dictate wake up time. So your plan to move out the nap will help a lot, I think. He might not be able to make it to 12:15 at first, but don't be discouraged... if you keep at it, he'll adjust... especially if his morning WUs shift later.

12.5 hr day is fine, but their morning and afternoon A times can alter the sleep rhythm quite a bit.

I've stopped by some of your threads before and I thought LO moved to 1 nap around 10 months? I remember bc mine started 2-1 around 9/10 months. 
« Last Edit: July 11, 2017, 18:31:25 pm by ginger428 »

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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2017, 19:49:52 pm »
 He started giving me trouble back in feb with pm nap. So how do you think is A times are altering his sleep rhythm?  I guess once camp is over I will try to push out the nap until then there's not much I can do.  Should I try to keep him up until seven or is that really pushing that A time too long ?

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Re: 1 year old and amount of sleep
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2017, 10:15:11 am »
I put him to bed a little later at 7 and he was still up around 530 maybe earlier!! Maybe something is waking him! I have the ac running and a sound machine and blackout shades.

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Re: 1 year old and amount of sleep
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2017, 10:46:11 am »
Honestly hun I don't think that moving the BT later is going to make any difference, if anything I think it would just make him more OT.  As the other ladies have said, the nap is too early if you are sticking to 1 nap.  I would really try to move it to after you pick yours DS up from camp.  I think if you move it out he's going to be tired enough to sleep.  Once you do that and it is consistent, BT will move out without the OT and then even if he did a 11hr night it would get you something like 7pm-6am.  Nothing is going to change unless you either stick to 1 nap and push it to somewhere around noon, or get a second nap in there somewhere.



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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2017, 13:03:55 pm »
Ok I get it. But When he's up before 530 am there's no way he's making it until 12 for a nap! He's only just turning a year I don't think that amount of A time would be reasonable.

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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2017, 13:33:15 pm »
I think being that he's so ot from super early wakings this week he's already asleep at 930, that I'll try to see if I can get him to catnap in the car even around 330-4 and then bed by 7. I've tried that in the past and couldn't get him to sleep until 4 woke him at 430 but he was up until 830! But maybe just to reset the sleep schedule a bit and get him to wake a bit later in morning and later nap. Can't hurt to try right.

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Re: 1 year old and amount of sleep
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2017, 13:56:43 pm »
Yes I think you need to get
On top of that OT with two naps then get your one nap pushed to after the camp run.

The other option is to do a short nap after 3.5. Wake him after 20 mins then do main nap when back from camp run.

To be able to cope with one nap he really does need to beable to do 5/5.5 A time.





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Re: 1 year old and amount of sleep
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2017, 14:49:48 pm »
I'm not usually able to get him to nap in the car or even when big brother is home in the afternoon so that won't be a daily occurrence. Technically he is doing a 5 hour A time some days when he's up at 515 and goes down for nap at 10 until 1130/44 but it's still a long afternoon A time until bed. So if I can just get him to wake later some how and nap later it might all work out for the one nap.

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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2017, 20:01:17 pm »
Finally got him to nap in car but not until 350! I guess I let him sleep 30 mins and then try for 730 bedtime ?

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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2017, 23:17:12 pm »
He made it awake until 7! Which is good! Fingers crossed he'll sleep
Past 515 tomorrow morning lol

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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2017, 10:15:27 am »
That didn't work .He was up at 330 (he never wakes during the night) until about 430 then up again at 530!

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Re: 1 year old and amount of sleep
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2017, 10:53:54 am »
Have you tired capping his morning nap and trying a long PM nap? Both my LOs refused an afternoon nap when doing the 2-1 if the morning was long.  With both I had to cap the morning nap to 30mins and then did the long PM about 3hrs later.  So if he consistently goes down at 10am do 10-10:30 and then the afternoon nap around 1:30pm.



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Re: 1 year old and amount of sleep
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2017, 11:19:49 am »
I would try but it's hard because my older one has things going on in the afternoon so morning is best for us because we are home and he can get the longer nap. Man this is tough with the second baby. I still have no idea why he was up so early.

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Re: 1 year old and amount of sleep
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2017, 12:17:11 pm »
My DS1 was long am napper and short on cat nap if needed at that age but DS2 will do 30 mins am and then long nap at 12 noon.

Could be worth trying then you could be out and about by 2pm x
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Re: 1 year old and amount of sleep
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2017, 10:18:05 am »
As soon as I can get him to wake later and camp is over I'm going to try to push out his one nap around lunch. I know how he can handle the long A time if he can just sleep until at least 630 am! I'm hoping it will look like this : 7 awake 12-2 nap 7 bed or something like that. I know he's young but my older lo also went to one nap young. He also completely stopped napping at 2 though :(.
Yesterday he was up at 520 napped from 930-1030 which is short for him then I got him to nap from 330-415 I woke him. I put him in crib at 330 it took him 30 mins to fall asleep though!

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« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2017, 10:37:37 am »
I forgot to mention that he went to sleep at 730 last night and is still asleep at 630 am! Just not sure how I will do nap today with camp. Didn't really plan that out lol. Maybe he'll just do an hour in morning 1030-1130 as we need to to leave by 1145. He hates to be woken up though. then I'll try to sneak in another nap in the afternoon again which is tough for him and just do the two naps if he'll take them until the end of camp.

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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2017, 10:42:56 am »
We've finally started to wake at a decent time in the morning! Yippee. Still having a hard time timing the nap. Just recently he's sleeping until 630-7 and won't take the nap before school run but can't make it until afterwards so he'll dose off in the car around 12 but wakes as we get home 1215 or will only sleep 30 mins. So it messes up our one long nap idea but then hes not tired or it's too late for another nap. Maybe today I can see if he'll go down at 11 which is a 4 hr A time but then I'll have to wake him by 1140 to leave for school run and he'll never go down before 344/4 for second nap which will be too late. Ugh. I've been trying so hard to push out his schedule and get later mornings and it finally worked but with this school run I still can't make it work. 1 more week of camp then I'll have the flexiblilty. But I'm just worried that I'm not being consistent enough now to help guide him into a routine if that makes sense. He was doing wake 630 nap 10/1130 bedtime 7 but just recently I can't get him down that early for nap and he's also sleeping until 645/7 am.

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« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2017, 02:56:52 am »
We've been waking around 630 (can be 615 or 645) he's always asleep by 1020 and I have to wake him by 1140 to do school run. Today he woke in his own at 1135 so 1 hr 15 mins. I hope im not getting him into that routine I'm just trying to let him get at least that decent nap before school run. Next week starts me pushing back nap. I was thinking I'd try 11 and see how he does. Is that too much ? How long should i wait to push him to 12? He's been asleep by 7 pm.

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Re: 1 year old and amount of sleep
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2017, 06:29:33 am »
Hi you could could just go with his mood a little, My DS1 had to moved in 15 min slots but DS2 can handle a big jump.
I'd try 11 and hold for 2/3 days then maybe add 15/20 mins on x
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Re: 1 year old and amount of sleep
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2017, 02:49:38 am »
So my first try at pushing nap out until 11 and he only slept for 1 hr 10 mins! Yikes. Now what ?

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Re: 1 year old and amount of sleep
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2017, 05:35:38 am »
Well it's slightly later in the day than you've been getting so I'd just keep going with it, if you've been getting an hour 10 mins from 10.20.
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Re: 1 year old and amount of sleep
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2017, 13:21:10 pm »
When he was going down earlier I had to wake him. But now going down later he's waking after 1 hr 10 mins!

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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2017, 17:58:19 pm »
We r doing good. Yesterday napped from 11-1245 today we were out so he didn't go down until 1220 and is still asleep at 2! An 1.5 is a huge difference not sure how he was able to do that. We will probably try for nap around 1130 moving forward.

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Re: 1 year old and amount of sleep
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2017, 09:29:18 am »
Good update
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