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25 month old sleeping advice
« on: July 22, 2017, 18:14:41 pm »
Hi guys,

Always had good advice in the past so I'm looking for advice or reassurance.

My 25 month old won't stick to a routine just now at all. She is all over the place with wake up and bedtime. I've worked out over the two years that she is ok with a set ish bedtime between 6.30-8.00 depending on her naps.

For weeks there we were having 7.30am / 8am wake ups and about 14 hours average day sleep but this is def not the norm. I just figured that she was having a growth spurt or something.

Now I am however getting 5.30am wake ups and minimal naps. I usually have to apop the nap. She has a set nap of 1.00pm.. She has moved up into the 2-3 room at nursery in he last month and she isn't finding it easy to nap in the new room so we have been having some no nap days. Here are some examples:

Today:
Wu: 5.40
S: 13.06-14.21
Bt: 7, asleep 7.15

yesterday:
Wu: 5.50
S: 1-2
Bt: 6.30 asleep 7.55

Wu: 7
s: 12.50-13.55
Bt: 7, asleep 7.35 (cried at bedtime)

Wu: 7
No nap
Bt: 17.55 asleep instantly, short nw at 7pm then fine until 7am)

I don't really know what I should aim for with her anymore as the 5.35 wales up are throwing me. I still push for the 1pm set nap but it's making the day long.

Feel like everything is all off! xx




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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2017, 12:38:48 pm »
Hi there how does she cope if the nap is short or non existent?

My DS1 at that age resisted the nap and I had to sooo with a buggy walk or drive around 2pm to get 45 mins in.

Has she got her 2 yr molars?x
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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2017, 11:48:24 am »
She's ok in herself with a short nap but can then do nw. Sometimes she is ok but with 40mins I usually still have to do ebt.
No nap and by dinner time she is a wreck. Usually a couple of nw but does have a long sleep to make up for the nap.

She is getting a molar just now but I do medicate as much as possible. She has two in, one coming in.

She doesn't really show tired signs (until way OT) so the routine being off is really hard for me as it is total guessing games.

Yesterday she just wouldn't go to sleep. I tried the cot, a walk and the car. She eventually fell asleep at 14.40 so her day was

Wu: 6.20
S: 14.40-15.20
Bt: 7.30, asleep 8, short nw at 10pm

Wu: 7am this morning

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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2017, 13:02:52 pm »
Could just be developmental with her birthday just passing. Not a bad night then considering short day nap, it might be she is getting ready to nap drop but sometimes the nap does come back again after a regression.
I'd keep trying and if all else fails get a CN I'm about 2.30/3pm x
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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2017, 10:29:11 am »
Thanks for the reply.

Think my issue comes with a catnap of 20mins or so is that I don't know when to put her down.

Yesterday we managed a nap, albeit away from her set 1pm, as she looked shattered (I could tell for once) so she went down for 12.30pm

Wu: 7pm
S: 12.30-2pm
Bt: 7.10, asleep 7.45

Took her a while to get to sleep but it was a bit more of a normal day.
She's at nursery tues, wed and thurs so we will be off routine again as she is struggling with sleeping in the new room
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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2017, 06:15:02 am »
Hopefully after a few days her sleep will adjust in the new room and she might get back on track, is the new room too noisy or do others not nap?

On those no nap days I'd definitely do EBT it will help combat OT. I used to find I could get a CN about 2.30/3pm if I coincided it with a walk/drivevto the shop.

The 1-0 nap translation can take a long time time so 20 min CN are quite good at preventing OT at this age if she won't do a proper nap anymore. Also if she is nap dropping some do no naps for a couple of days then a nap day.

Might just be a blip though with all new things going on for her x
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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2017, 18:28:00 pm »
She's been in the new room a month. Think it's a combination of too noisy and half of them don't nap anymore.

Today she slept an hour at nursery but she is screaming going to bed tonight. Don't know why?
Wu:7
S: 1.30-2.30
Bt 7.15, crying!! Hasn't settled yet and it's 7.30pm - doing some walk in walk out

Def think it's the beginning of the 1-0. Do lots of kids drop the nap even though they aren't really ready to? my lg is certainly much better with a nap than without!

My husband is away just now on work for over 2 weeks so it's been a long two weeks of off naps/ sleeps  ::)

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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2017, 19:29:48 pm »
My eldest definitely started to drop his nap at this age but by refusing to go to bed, I had to walk all the time lol as he still needed to, we were nap free by about 30 months.
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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2017, 18:21:46 pm »
Ha I think she is wise to me trying to walk her as she just sings and shouts when I try recently.

Crying again tonight.

Do you think it could be UT on the following:
Wu: 7.10
S: 12.45 - 14.05 (nursery nap)
Bt: 7.05 crying
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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2017, 19:48:28 pm »
I'd think UT with a long nap, I'd prob aim for 13 hour day with decent nap x
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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2017, 18:30:13 pm »
Hey,

Today was
Wu: 7.45
S: 1.30-2
Bt: 7.15

She is going crazy and won't even lie down. When would you have done bt on that day? x

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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2017, 18:48:33 pm »
Is a 30 min nap normal now?
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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2017, 20:27:17 pm »
In the past few weeks it's been about an hour to an hour 15mins. Just trying to go with the flow?
Tonight was the first time In a few weeks she was really off. Probably just a blip but I wondered if I had totally missed bedtime and should have gone to bed earlier. I was trying to stay in a 12 hour day x

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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2017, 20:33:36 pm »
Possibly just missed the sweet spot if she is used to a longer nap. x
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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2017, 19:21:12 pm »
I'm sorry I have no real answers for you but just want you to know you're not alone. My little girl is doing the exact same at the moment including the recent mega sleeps and naps. We're back to resisting bedtimes, goes down for 7 but not going to sleep til after 8!! She averages an hour long nap but mostly 45 mins. Yesterday at my mums she slept for an hour and a half which I thought was the reason for last nights after 8 bedtime, but today she slept for only an hour and did the exact same. I've also ditched the grobag so I'm hoping that's part of the issue and she will settle again. Who knows, these toddlers are baffling. Take care and try to stay sane. My hubby also works away and it's so emotionally draining when things are all over the place and you're on your own 😔

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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2017, 12:37:27 pm »
Sorry conniesmum, just saw this! Thanks for the advice.
She's so off just now. She had a nnd yesterday and was asleep for 17.55. No tow days are the same so it's really hard to get things as good as they can be!
I also ditched the grow bag last night. She spent the night sleeping on top of her duvet but we'll see how she goes with it x

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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2017, 18:02:21 pm »
I'm so with you at the minute. My hubby is away all week and lg also trying to toilet train herself!! 🙈
I've had a full meltdown before bath time cosni stopped her messing around and basically I was trying to make her have some quiet time before bed!
Last night it was past 8 when she finally settled having gone down by 7 after an hour nap at nursery. Today she's woken before 6 as she was all awake when I checked her camera at just after 6. She doesn't come out of her room til get up time around 6:45. They're the rules I'm afraid. Consequently after such a short night for her she was grumpy this morning. She's had an hour and a half nap at my mums, later than I'd usually allow, gotta love a grandparent!
As she was so hysterical I thought maybe she feeling a bit overtired so opted for a slightly earlier bedtime by 15 mins, how wrong can you be, currently messing around in bed as I type!!!
Like you say, I totally give up 🙈😳😔

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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2017, 18:35:51 pm »
My lg today did
Wu: 7
S: 12.45-13.50 (nursery sleep)
Bt: 7 and it's 7.35 and she is still going crazy shouting/crying.

I'm wondering now if any nap at all means she needs a 13+ hour day! x

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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2017, 18:49:55 pm »
Mine had a phase of 13.5 hour days when nap dropping age x
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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2017, 21:11:41 pm »
Pleased to hear it's yet another phase 🙈

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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2017, 18:03:13 pm »
Ha I know... what are babies like?! Phase after phase of sleep disturbance.

She only had 30 mins of sleep today and is still screaming not to go to sleep. Sitting in her cot wailing for me. Surely you'd be tired after a wake up at 7am, 30 mins sleep and bt of 7pm  ::)

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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2017, 06:37:36 am »
Hi, just wondering how you're getting on?
We're still battling on, although it's early wake ups for us now!! Throw in the stupid daylight saving hour and it's even better!!
My new plan for today is to shift bedtime later 😳
It's looking like my lg is only wanting on average 11 hours overnight now with an hour nap.
Wish me luck!!
My hubby is away again so it's been fun in my house these last 2 weeks!!!

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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2018, 19:57:13 pm »
I don’t know how I missed this post. Sorry! How are things now?
We had a period there with no nap at all and it was going well with about 12 hours of sleep at night. She’s however had a few naps at Nursery lately and over the festive season which is now causing havoc. 40 mins of sleep today and she’s awake still shouting that she isn’t tired! x

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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2018, 20:54:26 pm »
My turn to apologise for missing your reply. How are things going?
We settled after the last ‘phase’!! Now onto the next one at 2.5!! Ewu are back with a vengeance and an attitude to die for!!! Coinciding with another hubby work trip of 10 weeks!!
Where’s the Prozac?!

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Re: 25 month old sleeping advice
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2018, 08:25:31 am »
Ha I’m with you. I’m getting Emw and attitude! Why?!?! He joys of a 2.5 year old. x