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Re: Short naps developmental? Habitual? Or related to awake time?
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2018, 22:34:36 pm »
You know this morning I reswaddled and did a HTTJ and she slept 1hr 15. Perhaps that’s a clue.

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Re: Short naps developmental? Habitual? Or related to awake time?
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2018, 22:36:35 pm »
That's probably a big clue. Did you unswaddle for safety reasons because she's been rolling or just because you thought she might be ok?

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« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2018, 00:03:55 am »
She’s not rolling yet but would break out and wake herself up with her hands. I’ve been meaning to look around on here for swaddle transition info as it is still happening. I suppose it may be a safety issue still, I’m not sure.

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« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2018, 00:05:04 am »
I’m going to try HTTJ again with the current nap- set a timer haha!  ;D

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Re: Short naps developmental? Habitual? Or related to awake time?
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2018, 10:48:49 am »
Swaddle weaning FAQ: https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=251444.0

Good luck with HTTJ!

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« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2018, 22:10:56 pm »
Related to the short naps, little Jasmine is now 3.5 months and bedtime is becoming more of a struggle I believe due to OT throughout the day. Thus I’ve resumed efforts to extend naps. HTTJ and shh pat don’t seem to really keep her down for long, I’m in there maybe 30 mins and she seems fast asleep after the jolts but then pops back awake soon after, often crying. I began W2S today but I understand it to take a couple of days. Working to extend her midday nap I finally resorted to pu/pd. She didn’t resettle, ended up getting hungry and so I fed her.  I was putting her down 10 mins early for the next nap to avoid OT (4s WD routine unchanged) but she screamed almost a pain scream at the sight of the crib and became hysterical in my arms. I unswadeled, checked her diaper tightness and her little toes for maybe a hair wrapped around. Nothing. Eventually I’ve shh patted her in my arms and she was nearly gone when I laid her down. I’ve never done CIO and she’s always been fine in the crib. Usually she shh pats in arms then in the crib and then she’s off to sleep. But goodness I am worried I’ve broken trust with her with pu/pd!  Could it have been an OT cry or have I done something wrong? Hard to be consistent in pu/pd if she’ll be crying like that but perhaps it was just this once?  :'(

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Re: Short naps developmental? Habitual? Or related to awake time?
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2018, 22:57:30 pm »
As an addendum, after that incident she’s been sleeping 1.5hrs.... ???

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Re: Short naps developmental? Habitual? Or related to awake time?
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2018, 23:36:29 pm »
What sort of A time are you going for at the moment? Thinking she may be UT rather than OT...

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« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2018, 00:05:55 am »
I think you might be right. We’ve been at 1:45 A times

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Re: Short naps developmental? Habitual? Or related to awake time?
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2018, 01:08:52 am »
Give it a little push and see how she goes :) If the issue is that she's doing short naps and she resisted nap time then had a longer A time and slept 1.5hr, that just all sounds UT.

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« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2018, 06:33:35 am »
Ok I’ll give it a go!

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« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2018, 20:12:08 pm »

Do I count A times when extending naps as from first stirring or from last “sleep”?
Our day:
Awoke 7:10
E 7:30
A
E 8:30 top up
A
S 9:10
A 9:50 -> shh patted and seemed to go back to sleep but I was patting for 30 mins and then she woke and I didn’t continue
E 11am
A
S 11:55am

So I began WD at A of 1:50 from first jolting at 9:50 but she cried as though UT so I wondered if the half-sleep during nap extension counts as A time or S time? When to begin WD....

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Re: Short naps developmental? Habitual? Or related to awake time?
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2018, 20:47:40 pm »
Count A time from when she's up, fully awake, out of bed doing things.

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Re: Short naps developmental? Habitual? Or related to awake time?
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2018, 17:10:50 pm »
Just wanted to report a victory! I had been taking a break on extending naps and yesterday she was tired on the short naps, couldn't make it to her usual A time. I put her to bed and she didn't stir after 40 mins (great!), then she stirred around 11pm-midnight but we resettled her with shh pat as she doesn't normally feed that early in the night. THEN she just slept through till 6am!!  :o So she went 12 hours without a feed and woke happy!
This resulted in her easily having a happy 2 hour morning A time (some days she's quite tired in the morning and wants a morning nap early) and THEN she extended her nap now going on 1hr 15min (still napping) with just some HTTJ.

Overall a day for sleep victories! Hope that encourages anyone in the thick of nap extensions or early wakings.

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Re: Short naps developmental? Habitual? Or related to awake time?
« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2018, 00:36:24 am »
Yay! That's great.