Catch up for OT 2.5 year old?

[Haribo2012]

I would’ve done NND following the good sleep the day before but stook to 11.5/12 hour day!

[JennVanessa1083]

I guess I can try that next time bc to be honest these sleep fights leave me feeling incredibly frustrated. He finally fell asleep but woke up in a awful mood. So I can try the NND when this happens again.

Is it normal for them to be irritable on a NND? Or extremely wired?

[Haribo2012]

To be honest this is why a lot just give up on naps because it’s not worth the fight.

It takes a while getting used to NND so that’s why EBT is important to start with, or a 20 min CN to see him through to not so early BT.

[JennVanessa1083]

Ok that’s helpful!

I have a question: do people push out the nap and cap it to shorten it to have a decent bedtime? There are times he fights it well past usual naptime (45 minutes on average); I think you mentioned sticking to a wakeup time no matter what. Does that mean an earlier bedtime when this happens?

[Haribo2012]

It varies on child but for us I used to let nap be later then cap it.
I used to have WU by 2.30 for proper nap but if it was a CN then I’d say 20 mins but awake for 3.30pm with morning WU of around 6.30.
Yes earlier BT if nap shorter or morning WU early but not for too many days or they get used to it.

[JennVanessa1083]

Yea I think a proper nap I have to wake up by 3 pm if I want a 8 pm bedtime but that’s if I cap it at 1.5. The last 3 days he’s been pushing his nap to 7 hours but then most days will nap normally after 6 hours. The days he pushes is when he seems tired but then just rolls around and doesn’t stop moving.

Today he just skipped his nap. I can’t tell if it’s UT or OT. Today I would think he would  ant to nap considering he had a bit of a short night; just shy of 10 hours.

So I guess I’m wondering if hats a sign I push for a later nap with the same capping? Or cap it slightly later with the same bedtime?

So something like:

WU 7:30
S 2/2:30 pm- 3:30 pm
S 8:30 pm?

But I think he wouldn’t go down at 8:30 if he does a 1.5 nap waking up at 3:30 🧐

[Haribo2012]

I’d prob go shortyer than 1.5 hours of its later in the day, maybe try 45 mins?

[JennVanessa1083]

Ok I can do that. I definitely want to keep bedtime somewhat consistent. So if he does something like:

7:30 am
S 2:30-3:15 pm
BT 8 pm?

Does that sound reasonable?

[Haribo2012]

Yes sounds good might even need BT tad earlier x

[JennVanessa1083]

Like 7:30-7:45?

[Haribo2012]

Yes, I’d prob see what the mood is around 7.30 and head off to bed with maybe tjoightbof doing extra strong x

[JennVanessa1083]

OK I definitely have to take the plunge consistently. He’s been Having 9 hour nights every night this week despite the longer day with a 1.5,nap. Days with 1 or shorter, he sleeps longer.

I thought the longer day may help but it didn’t.

[Haribo2012]

I think you’ve kind of answered your own question  start reducing day sleep I’d say x

[JennVanessa1083]

Haha yea I guess I did. Can you tell I’m a first time mom 😁

[Haribo2012]

Ha ha I’m second time round and still forget x