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Re: Naps going to pot again
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2018, 19:18:16 pm »
What happens if she keeps doing overtired naps on 3 hours and therefore needing 3 or 4 30 min naps a day? Do I just keep sticking with it? Thank you again so much for your help at this stressful time!!!

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Re: Naps going to pot again
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2018, 08:28:36 am »
Shifting the day along by an hour (or whatever amount you need to get WU and BT at a reasonable time for you) is not a long term thing, it's short term and shouldn't take more than 1 week.  There can be disturbance during that change but as you are experiencing a disturbed routine anyway I wouldn't think it much worse.
If you suspect she will wake early you can use the W2S method I linked above to help her stay asleep, it also tends to be quicker and easier to resettle an OT nap if you use this method rather than letting her fully wake.
If naps are OT they should be easier to resettle, it might take some effort if she fully wakes and cries but she ought to go back to sleep.
If you don't get her back to sleep you could add in a later CN and shift BT later in one day.  The key to shifting a day along is to keep at it, LOs rarely move the routine the way we want them to on their own.

The other option is to leave the day as it is and let the routine settle down, that means accepting the 5.30/6am WU.  These WUs are not considered EW as the night is a good length. True EW is when the night has gone too short.


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Re: Naps going to pot again
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2018, 09:36:46 am »
You're getting some great routine advice.

I'm wondering though based on her age, might she be teething? If so, try some pain meds before sleep time. If it makes a difference, then YAY! :)

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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2018, 09:51:48 am »
Thank you Creations :-)

Yes I think she is - her top two front teeth are so close to cutting through and it seems to be when she wakes from her afternoon nap her cheeks are bright red and hot and she's generally miserable

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Re: Naps going to pot again
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2018, 11:53:10 am »
Any updates? Have you had any relief from pain meds?

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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2018, 12:54:36 pm »
One of the top teeth has cut and we've had some improvement but the morning nap went short today (30 mins) and she woke happy but fell back asleep 20 minutes later for 10 minutes and then woke crying. Should I increase A time by 15 minutes now?

Here are the last few days:

Friday

WU: 6.10
S: 9.10-10.15
S: 1.20-2.20
BT: 6.10

Saturday

WU: 5.15
S: 8.20-9.25
S: 12.45-1.20 (woke crying a lot and wouldn't resettle)
S: 3.10-3.40
BT: 7 (woke at 7.30 and resettled and back to sleep by 7.40)

Sunday

WU: 5.45
S: 8.45-9.30
S: 11.10-11.45 (in car)
S: 2.30-3.35
BT: 6.35

Monday (at grandmas for the day and night)

WU: 5.25
S: 8.30-9.00
S: 12-3
BT: 6

Tuesday

WU: 5.45
S: 8.20-8.30 (grandma brought her back then)
S: 9.50-11.00
S: 2-3.10
BT: 6.15

Wednesday

WU: 6.00
S: 9-10.10
S: 1.25-2.00 (woke crying and clearly in teething pain - gave pain meds)
S: 2.20-3.15
BT: 6.30

Thursday

WU: 6.00
S: 9-10.15
S: 1.20-2.25
BT: 6.30

Friday (so far)

WU: 6.00
S: 9.05-9.35
S: 9.55-10.05
S: 1-still sleeping at 1.55

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Re: Naps going to pot again
« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2018, 18:14:24 pm »
I think I'd be tempted to just increase the second A time as previously mentioned, where you used to have a longer A time. This might help to get a longer nap 2.  Two 1hr naps are ok for some LOs but yours might be better with a longer second nap because I think that's what she was doing before.  If nap 2 is consistently longer it reduces the risk of a very long A time before BT too. Some days that looks too long.

have you decided to stick with the natural WU time for now?


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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2018, 18:42:59 pm »
I increased the 2nd A time for the last 2 days and got a 1.55 nap and a 1.30 nap (on a 3.15 A time). Yes I have been as 6am is a good time for us too which she's done the last few days

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Re: Naps going to pot again
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2018, 08:50:10 am »
Those nap lengths are better then.  I'd perhaps increase to 3hr 25/30 and see what happens.


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« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2018, 09:07:07 am »
Thank you - will try that  :)

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« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2018, 14:02:53 pm »
What would be a good A time for last nap to bedtime if first A is 3.15 and second is 3.30? I'm not sure what to aim for

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Re: Naps going to pot again
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2018, 09:08:24 am »
I'd probably leave BT where it is as you have a relatively consistent night length, the long second A time might increase the second nap length and that means not having too long an A before BT rather than changing BT, does that make sense?  For example where she had two 1hr naps and woke at around 2.30 if BT is 6.30 it's 4hrs which is probably too long for her based on her other times.  If the nap is slightly later and long then the last A might be 3hr or 3hr 30 but BT doesn't necessarily have to move from the (roughly) 6.30pm you seem to be doing most days.
If it turns out she kicks off at BT due to UT then you can always take her out for 15 mins and try again the tweak the routine to allow for what she needs.


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« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2018, 09:14:34 am »
Thank you as always 😊

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Re: Naps going to pot again
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2018, 09:36:33 am »
No problem.  See how it goes and let us know.


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Re: Naps going to pot again
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2018, 17:55:30 pm »
Hmmm so I'm not sure what's going on but the last few days naps have been going wrong again:

Weds

WU: 5.55
A: 3.15
S: 9.10-10.30
A: 3.5
S: 2-3
A: 3.25
S: 6.25

Thurs

WU: 6.05
A: 3.25
S: 9.30-10 (nap in pram as had baby clinic)
A: 3.5
S: 1.30-2.50
A: 3.35
S: 6.25

Fri

WU: 6.10
A: 3.15
S: 9.25-10.50
A: 3.5
S: 2.20-2.55
A: 3.5
S: 6.25

Sat

WU: 5.50
A: 3.25
S: 9.15-11.05
A: 3.40
S: 2.45-3.20
A: 3.25
S: 6.25

Sun

WU: 6
A: 3.15
S: 9.15-9.55
A: 3.25
S: 1.20-2.00
A: 4.20
S: 6.20

Today

WU: 5.55
A: 3.25
S: 9.20-10.25
A: 3.40
S: 2.05-2.40 (woke crying and managed to resettle for 20 more minutes)
S: 3.10-3.30
A: 2.55
S: 6.25

I'm a bit nervous to cut her am nap short as she just doesn't seem to be napping well in pm as she's had a couple short am naps and still had a short pm nap. I think the really long fri and sat am naps are because she was having a growth spurt and has cut 2 top front teeth. Where she was waking up before 6, I was putting her down for a nap at 9.15 as she was doing 3.15 A time and as I wanted 6am WU I kept it at 9.15 for first nap even if WU was earlier. Not sure if that's right or not!

I then thought to extend 1st A time to 3.25 (10 mins) as naps were getting shorter but it was still short today so I'm thinking 3.5 hours for 1st A time. I was then doing. 2nd A time of 3.40 to try and extend nap but she had OT 2nd nap today so I'm wondering if I should do 3.5 2nd A time if 1st nap is less than 1.15/1.20 hours and 3.40 hours if she has a 1st nap of anything over 1.20 hours - what are your thoughts on that?