Any March & April 05 mums/moms want to chat?

[FrasersMum]

So we had our first really nasty night last night since Fraser was a newborn.  He woke at 10, 12, 2, 3.30 and 4.30 so this morning I am pretty tired.  Like I think I said in my last post, I am a full time working mum so will have to fudge through today at work I think!!

Bianca, how long did Sienna's GS last??  I fed Fraser at 10, 2 and 4.30 - the other times I managed to settle with a dummy but I really think he was hungry for the times I fed him. 

If not GS, does anyone have any ideas on what might be causing the disruption?  Fraser had 4 mth shots on Tuesday and that night slept 7 - 7.  The next night a feed at 4am (that's standard) and then last night's debacle.  The doc also started him on Zantac for his reflux (yay!) but do you think that may be distressing him?  Obviously after 1 night it's way too early for major concern but I'm so concious of the 3 day habit rule...

Anyway, anyones thoughts would be appreciated!

Chat soon
Jo

[Erin M]

Hi all 
We're doing ok here - we got back into our routine, but then we seemed to have gotten out of it again yesterday.  (Bianca - clock watching has really helped us to get back on track, thanks for the suggestion.)  Last night, I put Katie to bed around 7:30 (as usual) and then she was awake and screaming at 8:30, 9:45, 11:00, and 12:40.  I assume it was those teeth bothering her (although it is so hard to tell, she spends so much time chewing on things these days, especially her hands) so at 12:40 I gave her some Tylenol and she slept through until morning.  Very unlike her.  She's also gotten very screechy these days - realized she could make a very screechy noise and has been practicing quite a bit.  I try not to react and reinforce it, but boy is it loud.  Other than that, we're doing well. 

Jo - I found that Katie was out of sorts for almost a week after her 4 month shots, seemed like she reacted to them much more strongly than the two month ones.  Not sure where you're posting from so I don't know if she has the same shots as Fraser, but we had DTaP, polio, Hep B, Pheumococcal conjugate, and Haemopilus influenzae (yes, I did have to look those last two up).  Supposedly they're more effective if you give them together, but it certainly is rough on their little bodies! 

How's everyone else doing?

-Erin

[Jayri]

Erin thanks for the bit about shots, Riley got hers today and the poor darling has just gone to sleep after crying for about 45mins. She never does that, she normally whimpers to let me know something with her has to change, ie, feed or tired. But the doc says she is in the 95th percentile, she weighs in at around 17lbs or so. I feel so helpless when they are like this, it is frustrating that probably the best and only thing I can do is to hold her :cry:

[BiancaB]

Hi again ladies

Jo- I'm hoping by the time you read my post things have settled for you. Usually GS last 2days max- I normally just assume it is one if I've had a night like you described with Fraser, I would feed evry 2hrs the following day(You can usually feel your supply has increased by the next day) which usually means a day of short napping aswell! This may be difficult for you if you are at work depending on if you are BF/or Bottle.(you would handle a GS differently if on formula) I would still increase the amount of feed if you can. It somtimes takes a few days afterwards to get back on track with your routine.  :shock: If you are still thinking it may be the medication thats affecting him you could post question on the reflux board for info. (you probably have already :oops: )

Erin- I have a screecher too!! Sienna has a very high pitched squeal that seems to get louder as she gets tired   Is this a girl thing? My ds never quite hit these high notes :lol:

Naomi- Hope Riley is feeling better :cry: 

Nikki-Where are you?? :wink:

Take care Bianca

[Jayri]

Thanks Bianca, Riley is doing a bit better today, she was fussy through the night, dh said dhe had a lot of gas too. I figure she will probably be out of sorts for a couple of days, on top of it I think she is stating to teethe as well , no matter we will get through it!!!

[Jayri]

Well we have run into a problem, it seems that riley can put herself to sleep in the daytime, but the night is a whole other topic.
For the past couple of nights she has taken to crying for a prolonged time, say 45mins to 1 1/2 hrs (tonight). Is she too old for colic?
dh and i take turns, making sure that we are holding her so she knows that we are there, but no matter what we try, pat/shh, pu/pd, gripe water, bouncing, rocking, walking , she won't even bf. I am just a little miffed as to what I can do to help her as she has never been like this, not even as a newbie.
We have kinda fallen off of the routine wagon since dh is on vacation, so I think that could be affecting it, but on the good side she does feed every 3 1/2 to 4hrs.
When we put her down for naps and she wakes up after an hour and is wide awake and smiling, should I try to put her back down or should I get her up.
Sorry this post is so long, Riley has just fallen asleep on daddy, at this point I will try anything to help her get through this.
One final thought, she had her injections on friday, could this be affecting her this way?

[FrasersMum]

Hi All!!

Yes Bianca you were spot on - the night wakings were a one off - the following night he slept right through and since then we have been back to a snack in the early hours (4-5am).  Hooray!  I guess I'll have to get used to the fact that there will be some glitches along the way.

Fraser is still a little out of sorts - I think that Erin we have had a similar reaction to the 4 mth shots.  Hopefully things will start to even out over the next day or so (it will be a week tomorrow since the shots).  Naomi, perhaps Riley is also still feeling a bit yuck because of hers?  We've been having a bit of extra difficulties getting Fraser off to sleep (for naps and at night).  A couple of times we've had to get him up and leave the room for about 5 minutes.  Sometimes the little break is all he needs to send him off to snooze-land (and sometimes not!!)

Anyway, Naomi, your LO is a darling!  Will have to see about posting a piccy of Fraser at some stage so you can have a look (although I'm not quite sure how to go about that - not very technologically minded...)

Chat soon
Jo

[Nikki~Nathan&Danielle]

Naomi, not sure if I've got any suggestions for what your problems could be sorry.  Does it happen the same time every night, is it during the night once she's been sleeping, or after a night feed?  I get Danielle up after her morning nap which is always 45mins - have her up for 1.25-1.5hrs and then pop her down for another catnap to get her through to her 11am feed.  That way she's then up for another 1.5hrs and then goes to bed at 12.30pm for a big sleep which takes her up to her 3pm feed.  I guess it's your call, with Nathan I always got him up, I couldnt' really stomach going through pu/pd and making him upset when he was waking up happy iykwim?  He outgrew his short naps at 5-6mths.

Well Danielle's pretty much settled into her 4hr schedule, the last two nights I haven't done the DF since we were getting a maximum of 4-5hrs after DF, whereas without DF she went till 2.30am last night - so 7.5hrs.  So will stick with this for now.

[Erin M]

Naomi - It took Katie almost a week to get through her 4 month shots, so maybe that's it.  Also, you mentioned you thought Riley was starting to teethe - perhaps that's the culprit?  Katie's been getting her first two teeth on and off for the last month (I've been able to see them under the gums, but they just haven't broken through) and the nights that they bother her, she's really hard to settle - I'll usually give her a frozen washcloth to chew on and then baby Orajel if that doesn't work, and then Tylenol if that doesn't work.  Just a thought.  Riley is adorable by the way - love the picture!

Nikki - I kind of agree with you on the shorter naps - if Katie is happy and awake, I just kind of let it go, it she's still obviously tired then I try to get her back to sleep, although since she started sucking her thumb, she's better at that than I am these days. 

Jo - I think it was about a week after the shots when everything finally started to get back to where we had been.  I was surprised it took so long, but I have read that the 2nd shot in the 3 shot series (which is what all of hers were) is the worst.  Hope Fraser is back to himself soon!

Bianca - So funny to hear you have a screecher too.  My sister has two boys and I don't remember them ever hitting quite the high notes that Katie can hit.  The past few days she seems to more be just yelling instead of screeching - she seems to get quite a kick out of how loud she can be.  I'm hoping she finds some new noises soon 

I have to ask - do anyone else's babies scoot around the floor when they are on their backs?  When I put Katie down on the floor she arches her back a little and pushes with her heels and scoots all over the floor.  I think she's going to get rugburn on her head.  It's the funniest thing - she'll just be laying there and the next minute she's halfway across the room.  Never seen anything like it!

Take care everyone!
-Erin

[Nikki~Nathan&Danielle]

Erin, Danielle is doing that scoot thing too - it's so funny, and she's so quick.  It's making nappy changing a real challenge at the moment. :lol: 

 :cry: Danielle's having blood tests done to check a strange rash (looked like meningitis) but she is well and no other meningitis symptoms, so the doctor wants to check her our for a blood disorder or something.  Hate the waiting.   We don't vaccinate our kids, and it's times like this that it really makes me question our decision even though it isn't a vaccinatable (is that even a word?)  thing (not looking for a debate, just sharing info  ).

[Erin M]

Oh Nikki - hope all is well, I will certainly be thinking of you.  As for the scooting, diaper changes have gotten really challenging these days, I agree.  She keeps scooting herself into her wipe container and then crying because her head is stuck.  Keep us posted on the rash, I'm sure it will turn out to be nothing.
-Erin

[Nikki~Nathan&Danielle]

Thanks Erin.  Well got the results today and they came back all clear - so must just be some random rash. 

I had to laugh when you said she gets her head stuck in the wipe container. :lol:

[BiancaB]

Hello Girls
What a cutie Naomi! Hope your nights are back on track, did you mention what time this waking is occuring..if she is hard to get down at night it may be a little overstimulation/overtired?? With Si I sometimes just go a little to long at night with her bath routine(due to toddler crisis ) and she gets to wound up and has a good howl before she crashes, which is usually in my arms as I walk up and down in her room with the lights out! PU/PD isn't really effective if they have gotten too tired to settle themselves and the nerves are really frayed from a big day of learning. I've found that holding her tight like a swaddle until she relaxes is the only way to get her through that time...once she has had her little scream she can be put down into bed easily.
Nikki- Hope Danielle is okay? We immunize with homeopathic medicine in our house..So I don't think you should doubt your decision. But I know how frightening it is when they get sick..and rashes are always a worry when the cause isn't obvious...I'm thinking of you. Si has been a much more cold and flu baby then Kyan and I put it down to toddler germs   I'm sure she will be a tough one for it though.
Jo- looking forward to seeing your little man to and hope he is back to his old self asap.
JUST READ THAT DANIELLE IS FINE---good news
Bianca

[Nikki~Nathan&Danielle]

Thanks Bianca.  Just last week I actually just gave both kids the homeopathic vaccine for Whooping Cough and once that's complete have the meningitis one to give.  I haven't done the whole vaccination programme though just decided on those two for now.

[Jayri]

Just wanted to let you all know that riley is improving each day, I do actually think that she may be overstimulated/overtired, I just bundle her up, hold her close and try shhh in between the crys. She has such a heartbreaking cry, it is not wound up like ds's was/is, but it is just a plain old heartbreaking " i am really unhappy"cry.
It is nice to know that everyone is doing fairly well.
Erin- thanks for the advise on riley, it was good to keep in mind through this.
Nikki- so glad to hear danielle is doing better now.
Jo- just go down to the options/attachments on the screen when you go to post, an identical screen will pop up, but if you scroll down you will see on the add attachments the you have a browse button, click on that and it will show the fiolders of photo's you have, and just double click on the one you want, it will let you know if the pic is too big, i think it is 500kb or something like that, just hold the cursor on the pic you want and it will tell you the size of the pic.
I look forward to seeing fraser soon