Any March & April 05 mums/moms want to chat?

[Colesmom]

Is there such thing as a 5 month growth spurt?

DS gulped down his 5:30pm feed last night.  Went down like a charm at 7:15 and woke up SCREAMING at 8pm.  settled back down, but woke at 10:30 just before i got to him for DF.  then woke again at 12:30,1:30,2:30 and 3:30.  I FINALLY fed him at 4:00 and he slept until 7:00!

He was fussing after 3 hours today instead of 3.5...i wasn't here but DH said he'd been fussy and hunger was the only thing it could have been.  Anyway, I'm offering him more food today in hopes it will help the night wakings...

BTW...anyones lo have reflux?  Cole does spit up an hour or more after feeding...but it doesn't seem to bother him.  someone suggested reflux to me...but he doesn't scream during the day, only at night so that's why i think it's hunger.

i've barely any time to read posts...having guests over today.

enjoy your weekend!

Traci

[kq]

Judy, occasionally, I feed before the 4 hours are up, I figure, what is half an hour, and who is clock watching anyway? I wondered about the habit of feeding when awake, almost like they are too entrenched in EAS and if that is affecting night wakings. Let me know if you get a reply. Is it on the breast feeding board, maybe I will look it up now. Sounds like you are making progress with the girls' night waking. Good luck and may you get some sleep tonight.
Glad Fraser is better!
Take care all,
Karen

[Jayri]

Glad to see I am not alone on the EAS routine.
Riley is way off whack on hers, she likes to stay awake in the morning, take a half hour nap at about 11 and then she will have a 2hr nap in the afternoon and if she makes it to 6:30 we are lucky.
Last night I tried cluster feeding before bedtime, but she woke at 9:30, 1 and after that is a blur, she wanted to feed each time, pu/pd only made her worse.
She seems completely happy staing awake so long in the am, doing pu/pd to have her take a nap only make her mad.
I am currently contemplating on weaning her off of me and onto the bottle, I like the idea of it, but I also like OUR when she feeds.
Well my girl poops once or twice a day, I forgot how yucky the poops get when they eat solids.She loves her oat cereal, not sure on the rice cereal with a flavour, so I don't know if it is the flavour or the rice cereal she doesn't like.
Jo, it is good to hear fraser is on the mend.
Judy, how many times do your girls wake up now, is it getting any easier for you to sllep for a while at night.

Well I just wanted to pop on here and have a chat.
Take care everyone

[Little Bear's Mum]

Hi, we do a mix of 3-4 EAS. Depends a bit on how ds sleeps. Sometimes due to when he's first fed in the mornings he needs to eat before he'll take a nap even though it isn't 4 hours yet. The last 2 mornings he's fed somewhere around 5.30am, then gone back to sleep for about an hour. THen in his next wake up, although I feel a bit mean I haven't fed him and he's actually gone back to sleep at his next wake time. But then when he's woken up he's gone about 4 hours, so I feed him. I guess the EAS routine does instil into them that once they wake up, they feed. So it is kind of a habit. You gotta wonder why at some stage they figure out for themselves if it's dark and night I don't get fed when I wake. Perhaps it's due to how we treat night time, ie dark, quiet, no or little talking etc.

Traci, my ds has reflux. He is on a daily dose of Losec. Still sometimes spills, but now it doesn't hurt. This was contributing to shorter day naps until we got the medicine. Try putting his cot on about a 30 degree angle with his head raised as this may help. If he doesn't seem bothered by it, ie not crying lots after feeds or resisting feeds, then he might not be in pain from it. A good idea to mention it to your Dr next time you see him/her.

[Judy]

How often do the girls' wake?  Depends how you look at it - probably just once/night usually now (this week anyway  :wink: )  but if they are up at 3am and then up again to feed at 6am I kinda figure it as twice because at 6am I still want to be sleeping!

I have to say though - this lack of sleep is causing me some really crazy dreams - last night I dreamt we won $4million in the lottery!!  Boy was that exciting!!  Till I woke of course. 

[Nikki~Nathan&Danielle]

We do a mix of 3- 4hr EASY.  Especially if Danielle wakes early from her afternoon nap which is typically 2-2.5hrs long, if she wakes after only 45mins and it's around 2pm she wants a feed, but it works out fine.

Judy, just have to let you know after reading a few other posts I've found a few good tips for Nathan.  He likes soy sauce!  Also, we're tt at the mo and for a laugh I asked him if he wanted Danielle to sit on the potty - well she went didn't she??  LOL  I think I might do what you did with Sarah and just start to build it in as part of the daily routine and hopefully it won't be something to say "no" to later on like he is at the moment.

I've never managed to get the "feed on waking" thing going as part of EASY since we had short naps right from about 4wks of age, so that theory doesn't contribute to out night waking.  Don't know, she mostly goes 8-9hrs now, but the other night woke several times and DH patted her back to sleep the first time at 10.30pm and then I fed at 1am and she went right through.  Strange.

[Jayri]

Judy, it sounds like you have such a happy household.
Jayson is now starting with two or three word sentances, he has also learned to say sorry after time outs, or being talked to.
Well done on the twins sleeping so long at night. Riley went to bed tonight with 5 mins of pu/pd at 6:30 and so far so good.
i must go to bed, but I just find myself popping on for a couple of mins here and there.
TTFN

[Arwyn's mom]

Wow... lots going on here.

I also do a combo of 3.5 - 4h EASY. It really depends on her naps though. She is usually such a short napper that I need to move up one of her feedings or else she is supposed to eat and nap at the same time. However, I found that doing this results in her not eating very well and if that happens, then she is all wrecked for the rest of the day. This usually affects her last feed before bedtime ARGH! So, after trying this twice, I just let it go and not let her nurse to sleep. She "auto-corrects" for bedtime, meaning she will stay up until 4 pm (normal nap time) and then be fine for bedtime.

BTW, last night went great! I DF at 10 when she woke up and she gave me until 5:45. DH pat/shushed back to sleep but as I woke up to pump, DH decided that was a good time to do the dishes...  :? ... and woke her back up. So, I fed her and she slept until 8:45 :!:  never did that before! Hopefully she is moving towards her 12 hours at night. I've never had this before so it is a surprise. Watch... probably jinxed it for tonight and forevermore!

I am so used to her getting up at 2 am and then 6 am. I am right with you Judy... when she started to drop her 2 am waking 2 weeks ago, I would wake around 1:30 or so and lay there awake, waiting for her to get up. Then of course, as soon as I was asleep, she would stir and I would jolt awake again. Bet you would continue to do this even with the 4 million. :wink:

TTFN, have a good sleep.

[BiancaB]

Hiya Girls
Ditto on the 3/4 hr..I always seem to throw in a 3 and a half hr feed  somewhere..but sometimes I also do a 4 and a half hr gap depending on whats happening in the day.

Here is Si's latest change in routine--she has given up on a short nap late arvo. So now doing 2 big naps and awake from 3:30pm until her bedtime which is now 6:30pm(because she is waking a little earlier)
I must admit that long A stretch in the late afternoon can get very hairy :shock: But she is holding her own and settles well for bed!
Still not quite rolling from back to front as of yet, but she sure is moving around in circles on the floor by pivoting on her head :lol:
 
Also, hope you don't mind I just wanted to share my proud news about Ky...He went to the toilet all by himself to do wees (now does this standing up) this morning.. I heard him get out of bed and was waiting for him to appear beside our bed as usual...then I hear him moving his stepup into place in the toilet!
He announced proudly to us that he had done a wee standing up all by himself! Okay his aim, not so accurate :shock:  but WOW this is a big step towards complete toileting independence so I'm really excited
(p.s I have been at this tt thing since he was 18months)

Anyway take care to everyone and isn't this spring weather great for us down under girls   Bianca

[Arwyn's mom]

Yeah for Ky!

Bianca... does Si get a little restless during the latter part of her long A time? Arwyn can be awake for longer too but I find she then becomes fussy and wants to be held. Heaven forbid I put her down during this time if it isn't in her crib!! Therefore, I haven't been keeping her up... it is usually by accident (i.e. out and about) that we keep her up.

This morning though, she was awake a full 2 hours before putting herself to sleep. I put her down in her crib at 1.5 hrs and she played until the 2 h mark and just rolled over and fell asleep. Maybe she is ready for more A time. How do you know?? Just play it by ear? or systematically increase A time... if so, how? Each of the 4 A times or one at a time?

Another question... I have Tracy's first book but it doesn't answer as many questions I have. In fact, I have found some good advice in these forums but would like to know what "the book says". Which one to buy next? BWSAYP? Is there another one I should read first?

[Jayri]

Arwyn's mum, which book do you have? What I did for Riley is I let her lead for a bit and show me what she could do, or you could maybe extend her A time by 15 mins or so to see how it goes.
Riley has had a routine resembling EASY today,
up and fed at 7, nap 9 to 10, fed at 10, A time till 11:45 when she got tired, and her last nap was for 2 hrs. What a change from her up all morning thing that we have had.
Oh yeah! I posted yesterday that she went to bed at 6:30 and I hadn't heard from her as of 11:30, well didn't she wake up 10 mins later. WTH
Does anyone know how I can get rid of this darn df, now she is waking for it, I am continuing to cluster feed her before bed, but I don't think it has been long enough for it to be affective.
Bianca, way to go with Ky, I am hoping to TT Jayson soon, he is showing signs, and we are curbing back on use of his sippy cup. I am absolutly petrifies of it for some reason.
Well must go, TTFN and keep up the good work girls.
Oh yeah, Bianca enjoy the spring weather for me, fall is setting in here, by xmas there will be snow agh!!! Oh well only a coulpe of years and we will hopefully be enjoying a down under spring too!

[M&M'sMom]

I love the "Baby Whisperer Solves all your problems by asking the right questions...." It's an excellent addition to your BW library!

I read the BW before my twins were born and since they have come into this world I have been reading the second book. By using both of the books together we run on a smooth schedule.

My girls are on solids now, and doing great with it. They still wake once a night ( after 7-9 hours of sleep) and Dh and I get up together and feed them... 10 minutes later we are all back in bed.  We sould probably do the pu/pd and make them sleep through the night, but we have to work up the courage and pick the right time to do it. I dont mind the one wake up though... they are so peaceful and cuddle at that time...

My younger twin cut a tooth at 5 months and just yesterday my older twin cut her first tooth! I was hoping that the opposite tooth would come through on each of them... they are identical and as they grow they are starting to even trick us!!!!

Well take care everyone!
jody

[Jayri]

HI there girls, I was just wondering what you all use to settle your lo's.
We have done pat/shh, worked well, but I have tried pu/pd, it seems to work once she has found her comfy place, but it does work her up if she is too tired.
What i have found to work is pat/shh her till she settles and finds her fingers, and then I let her do the rest.
Bianca- Have you settled into your new home okay, I hadn't seen you post in a while, I was wondering how you were doing! How is the room sharing with your lo's going. I was wondering how did you know they were ready to share a room?
Take care, hope everyone has had a good weekend.

[Judy]

Naomi - I do patting only here - no shushing (somehow shushing bothers me ).  On the occasion that Hannah is very overtired I rub her bum while patting her back and the combination seems to be enough for her to stop crying to think on it for a bit.  (it's a tough one to do though... I figure my brain is so mushy lately that it's likely good exercise for it somehow  )

For a couple naps today though Hannah actually just settled in to sleep on her own - no fussing at all. 

Kaia sucks on her index finger and generally needs nothing from me except her blankets put on and a quick rub of her back. 

Bianca - Hurray for Ky!!!!!!!!!

[kate585]

Hey, girls!  I can't believe Ryan is 6 months old!  My mom and grandma came into town to celebrate.  Then, we had a "Halfy Birthday" party at my mil's.  Can you tell he's the first grandchild?   

I think the teething (plus the upset in routine I mentioned on Friday) have totally thrown him off.  He started getting REALLY cranky and the ear pulling and runny poops are going full force.  I haven't been able to contribute to the poop talk...I think it's been 4 or 5/day lately.  Fun!!! 

I'm hoping to get back into the swing of things this week.  He goes to the ped. tomorrow for well baby checkup and shots, though.  That's sure to put us even more wacked out.  Oh, well...trying to roll with the punches. 

Hope you all had a lovely weekend!