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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2005, 12:02:13 pm »
julieb - are you in florida???  i thought we were amongst the few that started school so early.

christine - teaching is going okay.  our school had a bit of an upheaval last year, so we have 19 new teachers & staff - including a new principal.  i think it's going to be a good year though.  i don't really mind starting so early cause it means we are done with the 1st semester (and exams) before christmas & get christmas break totally off.  we are done for the year before memorial day.

kids are adjusting really well at the sitter's.  jaina was fine since she knows her.  luke had a rough start, but after the first 2 days he started napping like a champ.  i think he's working on another tooth, but we'll see.

anyhow... better get to work  :D
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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2005, 13:59:36 pm »
Welcome back Leah's mom :) .  I forgot you said you were getting your computer fixed.  Also, cute pic!

Last night we had an amazing night :D  :D  :D .  She woke at 8:30pm and I gave her 10oz (cause she was so overtired at dinner, she wouldn't drink more than 2 oz).  She did wake several times in between but per herself back to sleep everytime.  And I knew she had a good sleep because she was doing that kind of happy, talking whisper sounds for 15 mins after she woke at 6:30. Yeaaahhh.  I feel like me again  :D (I wonder if the secret was giving an earlier dream feed?Hmmmm)

Asher's mom, how old is Asher?  Do you think the seperation anxiety is affecting his naps at all?  I was thinking that this was starting with Emily but I wasn't sure.

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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2005, 16:49:47 pm »
We saw the first signs of separation anxiety at about 5.5mos (though we do not know alot of people where we live, and there is no family close by, so she doesn't see alot of people besides us).  It was really rough on grandmas, both of whom she saw around that time.  It helped if I sat her on my lap next to the new person, so she could look at them and check them out from the safety of my arms.

We're having some scheduling/routine difficulties here.  Maya is definitely ready for a four-hour routine from a sleep standpoint (she can now go two hours awake without too much trouble), but until we get solids more established, I need to keep her on a three-hour routine to keep my supply up.  The problem is 45-minute naps.  We reread the pertinent sections of the second book last night.  I don't think it's due to a too-short awake time as I am keeping her up for two hours at a stretch.  It also mentioned overstimulation while awake as a possible cause.  I am hoping that may be it.  We have been really busy lately.  I am hesitant to try PU/PD as we had no success with it last time we tried.  Any thoughts?

Also, those of you with babies suffering from reflux... what are the symptoms?  Maya has been spitting up in voluminous quantities (~ 1oz)for the last week or so, and this is new for her.  Sometimes she brings up what she just ate (still undigested), and sometimes it comes up an hour after she ate.  It's just never been this bad before.

School started here yesterday too - we are in Jacksonville, FL.  What happened to the days of starting after Labor Day?  Summer's not over yet!
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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2005, 19:47:21 pm »
Tried wake to sleep last night for the first time at 5 am.  He then woke at 530, 600, and 615.   :(  BUT, he did go back to sleep until 700.  We'll try it again tonight.  :)   I'm so tired!

Tarri: Congratulations on the good nights sleep!!  :D   I definately think the seperation anxiety has started to affect bedtimes and some nap transitions.  It's not every time though.  So I don't know!   :roll:

Deborah: Can you feed her again an hour or more later?  I know that's inconvienent.  I'm doing that now so he doesn't go OVER 4 hours, since we haven't started solids yet. 
I also had trouble with PU/PD and read the sections twice!  :shock:   But then I figured out the key!  She said you have to put them down the SECOND they quiet down.  Even though I was only holding him for 30 seconds to a minute at most, it was still too long!  So now I PU, the second he stops, PD.  If he won't stop crying after a minute, I PD anyway and try to resettle in crib.  If not, PU again.  If he arches out of my arms, I PD and try to resettle in crib.  If not, PU again.  I usually only have to do this 5-6 times before he quiets in my arms and lets me put him back down without crying again.
I'm not an authority on reflux, but I don't think it's as popular to start symptoms so suddenly at this age.  I suspect a food sensitivity or a stomach bug instead.
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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2005, 20:18:35 pm »
JulieB - Do you mean clusterfeed at the end of the day?  Some of our intervals are already under 3 hours to fit in the five feeds.  For example, she's still napping now, so I probably wind up feeding her at 5ish and 7pm (bedtime feed, consistent no matter what the rest of the day is like).

As for the spit-up, I hope it's not a stomach bug.  She's had two already (the first was dreadful and avoidable - curse people who knowingly bring germs in our house), but she usually skips the vomiting phase and heads straight for the intestinal distress.  I can't think of anything new foodwise.  She's been getting rice cereal for over two weeks now, and we recently started adding a teaspoon of prune juice to it, but she's been bringing her meals back up since before that.

If the napping issue continues, I'll have to try PU/PD.  What happened before is that she'd stop crying when I came in the room and start when I tried to leave.  But she won't fall asleep while I'm there.  I'll have to reread that section again.
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« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2005, 21:52:12 pm »
Deborah,

Well, I guess it's kinda like cluster feeding.  I feed Asher one side, then an hour or so later, I feed him the other side (when you'd usually be giving solids, I guess).  He has a hard time taking both at once (gets very full, spits up more).  His awake time can go longer now, but if he naps for 2+ hours, he'll go over the 4 hour schedule (and prolly wake early and hungry!).  I noticed at bedtime I end up feeding him shorter than 4 hours because I can't make it part of his bedtime routine anymore.  So he eats about 30-45 minutes before he actually goes to bed.

Know what you mean about people's illnesses and their lack of courtesy!  My whole family knows how careful I am because I don't vaccinate, but they don't have the slightest problem coming over with their colds and coughs!  I have to precursor every invitation now with "Has anyone been recently or currently sick?"   :x
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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2005, 23:42:16 pm »
Deborah, my dd has reflux.  She had it from day 1, but I only figured out out at about 2 months and then the doctor gave us liquid Zantac and she got way better.  Her symptoms were waking up with a pain scream in the middle of a deep sleep.  Spitting more than 2 hours after she ate, arching her back alot while breastfeeding and bobbing on and off.  A grimacy pain face when I laid her down on her back and lots of gas.  My guess is that you lo doesn't have reflux because so far I haven't heard of a baby getting it this late, this is supposed to be the age where they start to improve.


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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2005, 00:44:37 am »
Deborah - Leah started spitting up more around 5 months. She never used to, and now she does at least two to three times a day. I just assumed it was an age thing. It doesn't bother Leah though, so i don't worry about it. Does it bother Maya?
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2005, 01:01:06 am »
It does seem to bother her at times, though it may just be disorienting for her.  She brings quite a bit up, especially for a baby who never used to spit up.  Tonight it came out her nose.  She did not like that.  She has also taken to bobbing off while feeding and arching her back, but I had attributed that to distraction (it's much worse when dh is in the room).  It doesn't bother her when I lay her down, though.
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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2005, 10:04:14 am »
Deborah - Olivia also started spitting up more over the last month - not sure if there is a link with age though.  I have been told that a majority of reflux cases sort out around 6 months so it would be unusual (but obviously possible) to start at that age.

We started solids yesterday but she's not interested.  I am not pushing it - the first time was with the Speech Pathologist (who has now come 3 times and is returning Monday to watch her eat again).  at least she finally opened her mouth once for it yesterday (afetr i pretended to eat it).  mostly she has her mouth clamped shut and when a little gets "pushed" in she does not like it.  we'll see as she gets closer to 6 mo (9 days away).

the speech Path. is still not 100% sure about Olivia - it mostly seems we had an aversion issue as she is feeding better now.  There is an issue with the amount of mucus she produces though. i plan to post on the med. board b/c she has had a runny nose and congestion and bad breathing since she was 5-6 weeks old and it has gotten worse.  The SP is referring us to an Audiologist to check her middle ear to make sure it is not getting clogged from all the mucus and I am taking her with me to the GP on the 18th - I hate to say it but hopefully when i feed her there they will hear her bad breathing etc and tell me if it is normal.  The ped. i saw at the clinic was terrible and just listened to her while she slept and said "sounds fine to me" and when i said it is worse when she eats... she said "anything that comes and goes like that can't be too serious"  :roll:
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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2005, 11:23:45 am »
Deb- sorry that the speech pathologist wasn't too helpful.  Could Olivia have allergies- just a thought about the mucus you mentioned?  Does she have sleep apnea?  I heard some babies have this.  Does she snore?  Gasp? Eirwen used to snore and snort really loud in sleep as a newborn.  Doc said it was because mucus membranes weren't developed yet but if it continued that might be a sign of sleep apnea?

Deborah- my dd is also starting to push off the breast and arch.  Most of the time it is distraction but sometimes she really doesn't want to eat and gets really upset if I try to put her back on.  Because of distraction I can no longer nurse in public or when my dh is around too.  She will pull off and look over at him, go back to eating, and then look for him again.  Too cute but really gets frustrating for me after awhile, esp after my shirt gets soaked! :roll:

Could she be over-eating?  I've noticed that my dd is especially not hungry at certain times but then will over-eat at the next feed?  She will spit up quite a lot if this happens.  It's like she doesn't understand all of the time that her tummy is so tiny!

We're having touchy baby frustrations.  Lately in public she is so unhappy.  Everything seems overwhelming to her...she's been pushing away all of her toys.  Yesterday these women teased saying she looked as if she would karate chop them.  I wanted to kill them at first but then I was like...yeah, she does look that way.  I just wish sometimes everyone else would get to see the fun, giggling baby that smiles and coos...and then sometimes I'm secretly glad she's only that way with me...
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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2005, 11:51:05 am »
Branwen - sorry you're having touchy issues - at least she is happy with you - maybe she just senses when people are not her type...  :lol:  she is just picky about who she wants to hang with !

the SP is actually really good - she just doesn't want to send her off for any unnecessary tests but is being thorough - she is watching us very closely and actually lookng beyond her specialty to find answers.  The Ped we saw was the B***H with no bedside manner who was patronizing and dismissive (and has an amazing academic reputation but no people skills i guess!)

we were thinking about allergies as well.  I wash the girls stuff in sensitive detergent b/c Alex has a permanent skin reaction/rash and i wanted to prevent it with Liv.  I have been using regular stuff on our clothes but was thinking she snuggles into us... and could be inhaling soemthing / reacting???  or something in the air? i am going to discuss with the GP on the 18th i guess.  Her nose either streams with snot, or gets stuffed up... when she sneezes i race in with the aspirator and an amazing amount of mucus comes out in a LONG string that runs sometimes right around through the other nostril (YUCK) and her breathing is rattly and wet.  This morning at one feed she wpould not take more than 3 1/2 oz and I finally gave up.  a half hour later we had a sneeze and clearing and my sister suggested that was the reason she would not eat - surer enough she downed another 4 oz!! it was the best feed of the day.

Can't remember who asked about nightmares but Olivia had one tonight. She went down fine at 7:15pm and at 8:15 we heard all this screaming and wailing on the monitor and Dh ran in to check and she was moaning and crying out..and very upset.  nothinhg was woring but she sure did get disturbed by something and was so upset - he shushed her and held her and put her dpown and she re-settled thankfully but for a second i was going to cry myself! so sad and upsetting!
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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2005, 11:58:05 am »
I was the one who asked about nightmares! It is sooo scary when they cry out like that!!! :(  :shock: She hasn't done it again thank goodness!  I think I'm convinced that is what it was...something disturbing her.

When Eirwen had a bad cold that dh passed around to all of us :wink: she would hardly eat at all from the congestion.  I had to suction her before every feed to get her to eat more than a couple minutes.
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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2005, 12:06:52 pm »
I don't know if maybe i shoudl just put nose drops in before every feed and suction...  her feeds have been pretty low/erratic this past week (not uncommon for her to have a 3 1/2 - 4 1/2 oz feed and also have 7-8oz i never know what i am going to get).

if we were having the 6 mo growth spurt it is already over (maybe lasted Sunday - Tuesday)  all she did was go a few days where she couldn't wait 4 hours and was hungry 2 1/2 - 3 1/2 hrs and took a little more food than "normal".  does that sound right??? Today she ate every 4 hrs and her total so far (still have DF to go) is only: 770ml (28oz?)
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« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2005, 12:33:33 pm »
Deb - Hopefully the spit-up thing is just a phase.  In the meantime, though, she's generating alot of laundry.  Usually she manages to get either dh or I as well.

What you described sounds like a growth spurt to me.  Maya's lasted a bit longer, but we were travelling so it took longer to get my supply up to her demand.

Maya also used to have congestion/excessive snot issues, but it wasn't as bad as you describe.  The ped chalked it up to her getting milk in her sinuses when feeding, but in her case, it was worse after a feed, and she seemed to grow out of it by about 4mos.

Branwen - Maya has been super-distracted while eating lately as well.  I have given up on trying to feed her anywhere but the nursery.  I am torn, though, between doing whatever it takes to get a good feed and trying to get her to focus even when there's someone else in the room.

I suppose she could be over-eating at times.  I'll have to watch and see if I can correlate.  For the past few days, though, it has happened with just about every feeding.

We have also been dealing with touchy baby issues.  I get alot of comments (and unsolicited advice) when we are out because she won't smile for strangers.  We can no longer go grocery shopping in the early afternoon (we live in FL, and that's when the old biddies shop).

Nightmares - Maya also wakes screaming a couple times a week, usually about 45min to 1hr after putting her to bed for the night.  Sometimes she settles herself, other times dh goes in and changes her diaper (that distracts her and she settles down) and puts her back to bed.  Dh was rereading the second BW book, and he found a mention that it might be related to overstimulation before bed.  When we thought about it, some of the nights she did it, we had been out running errands before her last feed as opposed to her usual stroll around the neighborhood.
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