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Help - getting a 4 week old to sleep
« on: August 21, 2005, 10:03:44 am »
My 4 week old dd reaaly fights both naps and sleeping ar night.  I have tried since day 1 to get her onto EASY and the E and A are fine but she will not sleep. :cry:

She usually get a max of 5 hours sleep during the day and does get around 8 at night broken into 2 or 3 chunks.

I have tried swaddling - she just screams and squirms until you let her out - and believe me I've tries sshh / pat, walking, playing calming music, but until you undo her she won't stop.  She has only once gone down in her crib awake and fallen to sleep.  She spits out a paci and tries to use her fists instad.  I watch for her sleep cues and have tried to put her down after her 1st and 2nd yawns - but she just wakes stright back up again, even if I sshh / pat her for an age (up to an hour) she won't settle.

Any ideas?

Last night it took me 2 hours to get back to sleep after waking for a feed and this morning she's still awake now from 7am.

She's so tired - and so am I !!

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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2005, 13:20:24 pm »
Hi There !

I am having exactly the same problem with my 3 week old - she's my second but my oldest was always easy to put to sleep (infact I couldn't keep her awake).

It's driving me crazy and I feel so useless - I'm sure I'm supposed to be all calm and confident the second time around. I am doing alot of feeding to sleep which I know is a bad thing - and infact even that isn;t working anymore cos she springs awake as soon as she goes into her cot. I guess I have to find someone to look after my toddler while I really try the shh / pat thing - trouble is she fights it for so long that I think she probably is hungry again - so I feed her - have I just totally ruined the previous hour's effort ???. She's awake for 3 - 4 hours then passes out at some point for 3 hours - so she's miserable alot of the time which is heartbreaking (and draining)

Any suggestions gratefully received - and Pendle Girl - you have my sympathy - hope we both get some advice !
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2005, 12:24:10 pm »
Well yesterday we managed a whole 1 1/2 hours of daytime napping - our worst day by far.  She was so tired by the end of the day she had bags around her eyes - poor little lamb.  She eventually went off to sleep at 9.15pm after over 2 hours of trying and then must have been completely exhausted as she slept til 2am, had a feed went straight back to sleep, woke at 5am, had a feed and went straight back to sleep again (unheard of!) and woke up again at 7.30.

Where am I going wrong?

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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2005, 13:16:31 pm »
The one thing that does work for us is the evening - I really recommend an evening routine :

I feed her about 4.30 - 5 (depends when she last ate of course  - but I find she'll always eat ! - then I always do bath about 5.30 - 6 - ( she always cheers up at bath time - I think she knows it's the end of her day !) - then I feed her again after bath when she more or less passes out (she has not normally slept since lunchtime !) - I take her upstairs and put her down by 7 at latest and this is the only time in the day when she (normally) stays down fairly easily  - bit of soothing - I have to admit that if she wails at that point I tend to feed her again to calm her - I know I shouldn't - but I do think night feeds are different and this is the first night feed as far as I'm concerned. I feed her again when she wakes up between 10 - 11 then she normally only wakes up once more before 7am. I always did the same with my oldest and although she was very easy to settle - I really think the identical routine of feed, bath, feed, bed sticks in their mind and tells them its bed time

Hope that helps

Emily
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2005, 15:01:23 pm »
I've been having the same problems you're having, and I think I've finally found a solution -- praise God!!! Have you taken Tracy's quiz to see what kind of baby yours is? I think I have a Touchy baby (4 weeks old), and here's the process I very recently discovered that works:
1. I have to catch him at his very first yawn
2. swaddle immediately
3. place him snugly against my chest with his face into my chest so he's not distracted by stimuli
4. walk to the nursery while making a very steady SH-- sound (quite loudly, like a rushing faucet). No patting - too stimulating.
5. turn on the thing that makes the ultrasound heartbeat swooshy noise when we walk into the nursery
6. rock him for no longer than two minutes (still making SH--)
7. put him in the crib with my hands on his chest so it still feels like he's up against me.

He's asleep within seconds - literally -- and stays asleep. I've just discovered this process, and it works like a charm so far. I've read the things other people include in their bedtime/nap time routine, but they're all too stimulating for my son. I can't pat him or play music or anything. And if I wait too long past the first yawn, he won't calm down at all and refuses to be swaddled. I strongly recommend the ultrasound noise machine, too.

I am very excited to have discovered this. I hope it works for you!
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4 week old sleep probs too!
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2005, 21:50:01 pm »
Like the other mums it seems i've hit a brick wall with sleep. I'm a second time round mum too, I already jave Jacob 23 months and now we have 4 week old Maisey. I too thought it would be more laid back and that she would just fit in to whats going on but ohh no she has her own agenda.

She's making me break all the rules, when she gets drowsey she'll only stay asleep if I put her down on her front and that means i cant take my eyes off her breathing movements. If not that then I have to sleep propped up on the sofa with her on my chest, only night time though because Ive got a toddler to deal with too . So she's not really sleeping during the day.

I'm sure it's windy pop's that are disturbing her, she seems fine for 5 mins after you put her down then she strikes up again. This goes on and on and on and she never stops unless she's upright on my chest and even then she strikes up a few times before going off to sleep. Dummies only seem to calm her for a few minutes then she spits it out and i'm back to square one.

If any of this is familiar and you found a cure let me know please !!!!!

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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2005, 12:43:36 pm »
This works for me sometimes......

get her drowsy on shoulder / or feeding (I know, I know !!!)

lie her in cot with hand still underneath her head and other hand firmly on chest - keep them there and if there is squirming do some shushing until she calms again - if she's not at the overtired stage ( I seem to miss the optimum time alot !!) that seems to work - it takes longer than you think - wait until she's really asleep - move hand away gradually - see if they react !

Feeling Sooooooo shattered - where did my life go ?? It does end, I know - I just hope I haven't ruined her with bad habits by then !
Emily

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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2005, 14:47:17 pm »
ok i need help my daughter will b 4 weeks on friday she is my third baby and i feel like i know nothing she wont sleep in her crib or in a moses basket she wont settle but if i hold her on my chest or rock her to sleep on one of my pillows she is fine but the minute i put her down she will start the maximum time she lays down for asleep is only half hour :cry: i need some sleep please help[/b]
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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2005, 03:13:47 am »
We are with most of you... 2 lovely daughters...
2nd time parents with a 9 day old new born and a 20 month old toddler..

Sleep has been something that's not happening...
Just another variation of what is mostly posted here, but good news for everyone...

We just went back through our notes on our first as we were / are frustrated...

Guess what...the first one sounded as bad about sleep and was contstipated too... Plus had a poor 'latch'

This one eat like a horse and that comes out good the other end..
The good news for us all is that it must get better as our toddler is and angel when it comes to sleep...

So keep the chins up...fight the good fight and we will all have good sleepers very soon..
Mark
Father of two Angles..
Taylor - Just under 2 years old
Lea - 2 weeks

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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2005, 15:40:48 pm »
well i think ive made biggggggggggggg progress at last chloe-jean does not like sleeping flat so i folded a blanket and put it under the matress so it raised it at one end(where her head would go) and welll well well she slept in her moses basket woke as normal every 4 hours for a feed which is great as i dont normally get to sleep for more than half hour at a time and thats on a good day lol lets hope it works 2 night as last night might just b a one off
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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2005, 21:21:40 pm »
Well after a couple of good days, we have just had another bad one - up at 2.45am to feed this morning and no real sleep (10 - 20 mins naps at the most) til 4pm this afternoon, then fighting bed tonight until 30 mins ago.

I'm hoping this is normal - 2 steps forward and 1 back! - and that we will eventually be consistent.  Am I expecting too much too soon?  My Mum keeps telling me that I am. :(

My life seems to revolve around her sleep patterns!!