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How do you know if 45min naps are just your child's biorythm
« on: September 01, 2005, 02:23:50 am »
My 4 month old only takes 45 min. naps.   I am trying to determine whether I need to try and lengthen her nap times or whether this is just the amount of sleep she needs. 

She is a pretty good sleeper at night.  She only wakes 2 times at night and we only feed her one of those times.  She has a destinctive cry so I can tell when she is hungry versus just needing help getting back to sleep.  I use the PU/PD method and she is getting used to this.

Regarding naps, when she wakes up after the 45 min.  She is all smiles and coos.  She isn't very cranky during the day; however, she is definitely an Angel baby and maybe her personality just doesn't let her get too cranky. 

Today I tried to do the PU/PD method to get her to extend her naps and she seemed to look at me like, "what I just woke up and you are trying to put me back down."  After 20 min. of crying she did go back down and again woke up in 45 min.  I stayed in the room both times trying to catch her at 30 min but putting my hand back on her body and/or Ssshing actually woke her up.  WHen I tried just being there without eye contact she just sat there cooing in bed but not going back to sleep.

I am currently trying to move her over to the 4hr schedule.  I was using the EASAE Method which for me is what you have to use when your child won't sleep the full 1.5 to 2 hrs.  I would just play with her until her next 3hr feeding time.

Finally, I have put her on our bed and slept next to her and when she wakes up at the 40 min stage if I keep my eyes closed she looks at me and closes her eyes and will go back to bed for another 1.5 hours at least.  I have tried this 3 times.  I don't need to be in the room after that first wake up.

I guess I just answered my own question.  She probably does still need more sleep, even though she is relatively sleeping through the night and happy during the day.

Any comments appreciated.

Thanks

Tiffany

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How do you know if 45min naps are just your child's biorythm
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2005, 02:42:06 am »
I know what you mean about wondering if your lo is getting enough sleep with 45 min. naps. I also have an angel baby (3 mo. old). She has slept through the night 3 out of the last 4 nights  :D so night time is not a worry at this time. Her naps are very textbook--she wakes at the 40 minute mark and rarely fusses. Sometimes I don't even know that she woke up--she just lays in her crib and stares around the room--it is actually pretty cute. Sometimes I can pat/shush her back to sleep--but she seems so happy and content.  My only concern is that if she wakes too early that the rest of her day gets crazy. If she is up an hour before she eats then she gets tired right after eating and then if her next nap is only 40 min. she wakes almost 2 hours before her next meal.

anyway--I don't have any suggestions or advice--but I understand your question.
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How do you know if 45min naps are just your child's biorythm
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2005, 23:09:03 pm »
Well you will be able to know this if you've tried extending the naps and despite your efforts it still hasn't worked and baby wakes up refreshed.

At 4 months, your baby should be able to sustain 2 hours of wakefulness.  So, if you are doing less than that and baby is waking at the 45 min mark awake and alert, you can try extending her awake time by 15 minutes every few days until she is up to the 2 hour mark. 

When you extend the awake time in 15 min increments, you are changing your EASY from a 3 hour to a 4 hour which is typical for most 4 month olds.  If you are already there, and doing the 4 hour EASY with 45 min naps, you might try pre-empting the waking by:

Going in at the 35 min mark and waiting for the jolt.  The beginning of the rise from deep sleep happens at about the 38 minute mark, so if you are there at the 35 you will catch it.  Prepare to spend 20-45 mins in the room the first few times you do this.  I started it today and it is already working.  Get comfy, perhaps on a stool or standing by the crib and gently place your hands on your babys upper arms while she is swaddled.  You are basically providing some pressure so that when/if she jolts, your pressure will prevent a startle awakening.  If baby opens her eyes, use one hand to hold her arms and the other to shield her eyes with your hand.  If the room is really dark you may be able to avoid the eye-part.  Otherwise, maintain this position until baby falls back into deep sleep again.  You will notice her breathing quicken when she comes out of sleep and she may grunt, life her legs and roll her head side to side.  If you use a paci, you can insert it, but don't do so before she opens her mouth for it.  Shoving a paci in there when not requested can actually wake her up more.  Follow her cues for paci or out.  You may put it in and she will close her eyes, rest and spit it out (keep holding her arms) and then suddenly seem like she needs it again - put it back and continue being careful not to let her come out of sleep due to jolts or wanting that paci - it can feel like a juggling act :)

The first time it may take her 20-30 mins to fall back into a deep sleep, but if you continue this for all naps, you will see that the time it takes her to fall  back shortens and this means you will spend less and less time at the cribside.

We've been short napping for 5 weeks now and today had 3 naps of 1.5 hours each and a catnap of 45 min :)   I feel like I have my life back!

Now, if you do all of this and baby is still waking up at the 45, not going back, eyes pop open and yet she is alert and HAPPY, this is likely her biorythym.  If she wakes up cranky then you know that she needs more sleep.  You can, if you like, try for 10-15 mins to get her back to sleep and then if that fails, take her out, do quiet activity for another 10-15 mins or so and then you may notice her getting sleepy again - right back to sleep then!

Essentially, this will be a broken nap with some A time in the middle.  It will then seem like EASASE in the cycle.  You might do this for a while before you can get the *going in early* part to work, but then it can be smooth sailing!

Best of luck!
Baby boy - Adam Sean - born June 6, 2005

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thanks for this!
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2005, 13:16:18 pm »
I don't think I was staying in the room long enough.  As soon as he seemed to settle back i left, hence a few 1 hour naps!

Great post heather10.

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hmmm, actually I think I just had to leave him alone
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2005, 16:49:06 pm »
I went in at 35 and lay my hands on him.  I think i caused the jolt :shock:

I stooped over him for 20 minutes pat shush pat shush pat pat pat pat pat i think he jolted 3 times.

So the next time he fought me I let go.  He cried (mantra/frustrated cry) for about 3 minutes and went back to sleep.  If he could talk I'm sure he'd say " if you respect me enough to settle myself at the start, please respect me enough to settle myself in the middle"   LOL

Anyway, it worked this time.  If he cried hard I'd calm him but I think from now on I'll just let him jolt and see if he works through it.

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How do you know if 45min naps are just your child's biorythm
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2005, 18:36:56 pm »
Heather... I take it that it's working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I'm doing my little happy dance!!)

Can we use your post for our resources? (So well written!!)
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