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EASY at home I get, but how do you manage to go out?
« on: September 02, 2005, 13:45:02 pm »
My dd always falls asleep in the pram / car even if it is not S time, but times you just have to go out.

Any ideas how to get around this?

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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2005, 14:41:34 pm »
I've got the same issue, mainly in the car though, my dd will sleep regardless of what time of the day it is.... so I try my best to time my outings when she is ready for sleep..... or time her sleeps to when I need to go out, but it's not always easy to do that!

But what I find is that by going out, her routine usually goes out of sync and when we get home, I try to put her to bed to catch up on some sleep time (if she needs it) but if's she overstimulated/overtired, it is a nightmare trying to get her to nap, never successful (I'll try for an hour) and then the rest of the day is just rotten!

I guess in theory we've got the same issue, the EASY routine not running as it should be and how to get it back on track... I'd be interested in any ideas/advice too!

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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2005, 19:04:26 pm »
I would appreciate any advice too!!!
My ds (9 months) does great EASY at home, but as soon as we leave it is almost impossible to follow any routine.

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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2005, 14:36:03 pm »
I also find the same trouble with visitors, whether we go to someone's house or they come here.  Visitors don't seem to care if we're in the middle of a schedule.  Yesterday, my ds was following EASY in a lovely way at the park, when my MIL walked up, repeatedly poked her head into his stroller speaking loudly to him, and finally announced "I just have to touch him" and began patting his cheeks. 

Of COURSE he woke up!  Then, when visitors see the eyes open, they always announce loudly "Well, there, he's awake" and dig in like he's filet mignon. 

The problem is, I want to visit with people, I just don't know how to do it so that everyone's happy, and Baby Joey can have some smooth sailing.
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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2005, 22:33:40 pm »
I totally relate to you all - it is so hard to follow easy on the road, especially with family and friends that don't understand the routine.  I have the opposite problem - ds will NOT sleep anywhere but his crib, which means that if we are out, he will not fall asleep in the stroller or in my arms.  He will fall asleep if really tired in the car, but if I transfer him to his crib once we get home, he will not go back to sleep (even if the car nap was only 5 minutes).  If we have an event and I don't put him to sleep at his nap or bed times, he almost looks at me like, "Mom, what are you doing?  It's naptime, get with the program!"

SO, I have become the EASY b----.  I don't care who I offend or annoy.  When ds is getting sleepy, I do my best to protect his naptime.  I know that family/friends grumble to eachother, "Sheila is wacko with her sheduling and naptimes."  But I have come to the point that I don't care.  I just have a kiddo who needs his routine, and trusts his mom to protect it. 

Phewwww!  That vent felt good...   :wink:
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2005, 05:36:30 am »
I am totally on the same page as all of you. I have tried to get around the wacky schedule by planning only one event a day (that lasts only one 4 hour rotation), or to make sure that we will be going somewhere where a nap is possible (ie. grandparents' house, house of friend with small infant). If Arwyn's schedule is totally whacked and she gets no proper naps -- which is usually the case -- I will put her right to bed as soon as we get home. Even if this means I let her fall asleep while nursing.  :oops:

If we go to visit people who don't really understand, I try to be flexible but will usually draw the line at 30-45 minutes past her naptime. I will then hold her myself so that she doesn't become overstimulated and try to put her to sleep -- must warn you all -- I am not usually successful. But at least she is not knackered from overstimulation so I can put her to bed when we arrive home.

To address the people who wake her up... they are just not allowed to. I repeat myself until I am blue in the face that she is sleeping. If they do succeed in waking her up,  :roll: I point out her sleepy signs. I say things like... "Oh, she woke up crying. That means she did not have enough sleep yet." ... or ... "Look at her very red eyebrows. Boy, is she sleepy." After a few times, they get it. Repeat visits do not usually result in her being woken up.

I am obsessed with the S in EASY. I am trying to let go and get out at anytime during the day but I still have her schedule in the back of my mind. I have resigned myself to short trips while she is an infant. Hopefully I will ease up when she reduces her naps to only one per day (or before she graduates!)  :)
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2005, 15:18:45 pm »
i thought i was the only easy-obsessed mom!! i posted on another board about how our schedule is going to get completely messed up once a week, for a while. oh well. just gotta let it go sometimes.

friends and family digging in like a filet mignon...haha! so true! i love how everyone says "look how alert he is" when he's actually just got the 7mile stare, begging for some sleep. then again i had no idea before ds that baby's sleep is such a delicate thing!

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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2005, 00:40:11 am »
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To address the people who wake her up... they are just not allowed to. I repeat myself until I am blue in the face that she is sleeping. If they do succeed in waking her up,  :roll: I point out her sleepy signs. I say things like... "Oh, she woke up crying. That means she did not have enough sleep yet." ... or ... "Look at her very red eyebrows. Boy, is she sleepy." After a few times, they get it. Repeat visits do not usually result in her being woken up.

I do that, too, but I will tell you that my very bold MIL actually turns around and says "Nooooooo.  That means he's ready to see his grandma."
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2005, 04:28:48 am »
Well... my own mother today told me not to force her to sleep anymore. She was waking up for the second time, having only napped for 1.25 hours. I wanted her to sleep for 2 hours. As I was pat/shushing, I could hear her in the living room, telling me not to force her to sleep because she thinks she has had enough.

At least she doesn't wake her up though. I feel for you... I am so obsessed with Arwyn's sleep that I couldn't imagine what I would do if someone insisted on waking her up.

P.S. I think you captured the tone well :wink: ... I can actually hear the comment in my head.
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2005, 10:16:02 am »
Hi
New mum to the forum and can TOTALLY relate to all of this. Mum of a v spirited 2 yr old who wasnt on easy and a textook/often angel 11 week old who is. I am a bit "obsessed" with the S as well as the E is going really well I have to obsess about something it seems!. I have posted on other pages about getting the S right as they are growing and trying to get out and about but I am coming to the conclusion that I have to keep trips out short if I want to stick to it.  Glad I am not on my own!
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2005, 16:34:39 pm »
Had DS on a 3 hour feed schedule, but no sleep routine until 2 weeks ago.  Now I run out to do errands between nap 2 and 3 and hope to make it back before he falls asleep!  He did sleep in the car the other day and it resulted in a 30 min. cat nap, which I suppose isn't too bad.

One thing...have any of you tried going somewhere for dinner ( I mean to a house)  I am hoping DS will sleep in his pack n' play...and then I have to decide...do we take him home before or after the DF?
Any thoughts on your experiences would be appreciated.

I can't believe it...he's 30 min. into his nap and our deck builders just drilled into the house and he didn't wake up.  I pray they finish the next hole before the 38 min. mark :shock:

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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2005, 17:14:55 pm »
When we go to dinner at a house we usually let him sleep in his car seat.  I know it breaks some rules, but then you can leave whenever you need and don't have to worry about waking him.
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2005, 17:17:55 pm »
hmmm, I suppose I might be able to try that.

I have never put him down to sleep in his car seat...the reason being that we thought he was a bad car baby....turns out he was chronically overtired with no nap/sleep routine and just didn't know how to shut off...even with the paci.  poor guy.  he's great in the car now, so maybe I'll give it a try for a cat nap and see if it works.  Of course, he'll be out of his infant seat very soon...then that won't work either :(
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2005, 17:26:26 pm »
I let Arwyn sleep in her car seat if she will let us. She is so trained to sleep only in her crib that she will resist sleeping anywhere else. Even on our shoulders unless we are at least 2 hours past her bedtime.

Also, I leave at least 2 hours before the dreamfeed because sometimes she gets woken up on the trip home and if she has difficulty falling back asleep, I will nurse her.

I try to be flexible  :roll: and not turn into a party pooper. The way I look at it, leaving early from functions will not last forever, and if I disrupt her schedule once in a while, it is no big deal. I do try to keep it down (messing with her night sleep) to once a week though.
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2005, 17:40:42 pm »
I know what you mean about only being able to sleep in a crib.  We took our girl camping about 2 1/2 months agao in a small tent (no room for pack-n-play) and it was a complete nightmare.  Just came back from another camping trip with a nice big tent and a pack-n-play.  Though it was not completely smooth-sailing, it was a million times better.

As for going to dinner, we bring the pack-n-play with all her bed-time acoutrements (comfort items, bath items, books, etc.), do the whole routine and put her to bed in the quietest room in the place.  This often works quite well.  Then we scoop her up when we're ready to go, put her gently into the car seat, and move her gently to her crib when we get home.  She often wakes up a little for the car ride, but is completely quiet, like she's sleeping with her eyes open.  But this only works if we stay for a few hours after she goes down, so that she's in a real deep sleep.  Since DD is so big, we have no dream feed.  But I think I would try to get home in time for the DF, do the DF, then put your lo to bed.  It would probably disrupt the routine the least.

Now, getting my girl to take naps in the pack-n-play is another matter.  Sometimes she goes down great, others only after 45 minutes of talking to herself, sometimes not at all.  I get frustrated, too, but I really try to take it in stride.  After all, we have to go out sometimes.  Otherwise I will go crazy, and my family would make their displeasure known if we stopped visiting.

As for errands, at this age I can schedule errands for A time and my girl will stay awake.  But when she was younger, she always felll asleep in the car and often in the stroller.  So then I would try to schedule car rides and long rides in the stroller for the end of A time and beginning of S time.  Of course her naps were never as long or as restful, but do what you've got to do.  Figure out a way to give your lo the longest stretch of the best sleep you can.

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