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Offline Jayri

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« on: September 03, 2005, 16:57:35 pm »
I was  just wondering if you ladies knew anything about herbal sleeping remedies.
The thing is, I went to the doc last week, told him it takes me anywhere from 1.5 to 3 hrs to get to sleep at night. So I fall asleep at around 1:30am or so, up somewhere between 2 and 4 depending on when Rley feels the need to wake up and say Hi to us :shock: , then I am up at 6am due to DH getting up to go to work, and then we all rise at about 7:30am. Al in all I usually get about4 or 5 hrs sleep, always interupted, never for a straight 3 or 4 hrs.
I asked the doc for something and he said at the moment there was nothing that he could effectivly give me due to my bf.
Does anyone know of anything natural I could take that would help, or do I have to wait until I stop bf, which is no prob, just a pain in the butt though.
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2005, 17:11:52 pm »
I dont know of anything hun, but is there a underlying cause to why you cant sleep maybe try to find a way to help that?? Do you get any wind down time yourself before bed?? There are loads of relaxation techniques that might help?? Just a thought :)

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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2005, 17:20:39 pm »
Plenty of wind down time, as I put it to the doc there are time when I am simply laying in bed looking at the clock, with my eyes wide open.
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2005, 17:24:16 pm »
oh hun i hope someone knows of somthing and you get some sleep soon xx

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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2005, 17:44:43 pm »
I think chamomille tea is safe for b/f. I drank gallons of it in the early weeks to help calm me and my baby and it didn't cause any probs. (I'm going back to drinking it again, as dd has become hyper!) The only thing with it is it takes a week or two to build the effect up, and you probably need 2/3 cups a day. It's a taste that you need to get used to, but it's not horrible! It's great as an oil in the bath too, as are lavender, frankincense and marjoram...but not all at once!

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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2005, 17:55:14 pm »
Is the reason you can't go back to sleep because you anticipate your lo to wake up? I had this problem. As soon as I went to bed I would find out I couldn't sleep because I was waiting for a cry from dd's bedroom.

Or have you had it always?

I know that hot bath helps me relax and makes me sleepy. Same with a glass of warm milk. What about a foot massage, ask your dh for it, or for a body massage.

Or try some very monotonous music, use the same every time, it may become your "bedtime ritual"  :lol: .

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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2005, 02:34:38 am »
I find white noise really soothing.  I started sleeping with a fan in college to help me relax - I can just focus on that noise and it's so monotonous it helps put me to sleep.  I might try a white noise machine though, because I'm now hooked on the fan - seriously, I put it on all winter long so I can sleep.  Drives DH nuts.  Might be worth trying though.

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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2005, 02:54:34 am »
Okay, I think I am just plain doomed.
I have a fan, dh slleps on the couch as he says he can't sleep properly with it on.
I do anticipate dd waking up, but I have learned to relax, and my body clock usually wakes up a couple of seconds b4 she does.
I have tried a bath, but of late I am too physically drained to have one.
I have always had the problem of going to sleep, as far back as I can remember, but now with 2 kids i am particularly anxious to get the proper sleep to keep up with them.
I will however try the camomile tea, I was unsure as they say not to use it when pg.
Keep the suggestions coming though, maybe one will work :D  :D  :D
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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2005, 05:57:07 am »
Naomi, I had the same problem with Aiden, don't know if it was cause or effect of PPD, but my remedy, I don't have it this time.
Go to bed earlier than I would like & read, then when I've switched off from the child rearing activities, I do breathing excercises... do this in the middle of the night if I don't fall asleep quickly. 
Breathing excercises...
start breathing in to count of 3 out to 3, then do it to 4, then 5, 6, 7,8,9,10... you probably need to do about 5-6 repeats at each time, but by the time you get to 10 (if you aren't already asleep) you are really relaxed anyway as you are only taking about 3-4 breaths a minute (normal is about 10)
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2005, 12:48:27 pm »
Some great advice, already.  And you're absolutely right about just having to keep trying different thing until you hit on what's right for you.  Often sleep problems are due to some underlying anxiety - thoughts keep running through your head and you have a hard time relaxing your mind, even if your body is relaxed. Just like we suggest with babies, it's a good idea to have a bedtime routine, that prepares your mind for sleep.  Make sure you have no high stimulation activities before bed, and try to read something just before you lay down.  Once in bed, do some breasthing exercises (Kate described some) or you could try progressive muscle relaxation (let me know if you want more of a description of this).  This will hopefully just relax you, if not put you to sleep.  Then, try not to focus on anything (especially not the clock!). But if you're still awake after about 45 min to an hour, and not getting sleepy, you might want to get up, leave the room and go read quietly until you feel sleepy.  Then try again. The worst thing to do is lay in bed, tossing and turning, waiting for sleep - it will only start to stress you out!

But I would suggest you really look into your current thoughts and worries to see if there's something bothering you that's preventing you from relaxing.  Problems or frustrations with dh? Worries about the kids? Low mood? There is usually a reason or a combination of factors that cause sleep problems, and once you find out what, you can really make some progress.

One last word about chemical sleep aids - even though they may work in the short term, they are NEVER a good idea to use indefinitely. Most sleeping pills don't actually gives you normal sleep (the right amount of REM and deep sleep, etc) and when you go off them, you're right back where you started, unless you've found out what the underlying problem is.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help - I know how hard it is to be unable to sleep!
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2005, 14:21:09 pm »
I can relate. I've become a terrible sleeper since giving birth.  My body is so used to waking multiple times at night that now that my little guy is sleeping longer I still wake up several times at night  :(   
What helps me is going to bed earlier and just reading for a bit.  It's a good way for me to wind down. 
I also use lavender oil which is supposed to relax you.  I rub a little on my temples and then do some deep breathing ex. to calm me down.
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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2005, 03:56:03 am »
I wanted to suggest warming milk in the microwave with a splash of vanilla extract...I am a terrible sleeper - always have been and I find this helps.

Although I wouldn't recommend them when BF'ing I have to respectfully disagree about using medical sleep aids...as a seasonal insomniac (tend to have problems with the season change in the Fall and Spring) I sometimes use Tradezone (sp?) for a few nights to trick my body into being able to fall back asleep.  I think the thing is to only use sparingly and cut back as soon as you are falling asleep more regularly or you will get hooked.

Cheers!  I'm just outside of Halifax too.

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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2005, 12:29:25 pm »
Trazodone is actually an antidepressant which has sleepiness as a side effect. :wink: So it doesn't have the same complications or effects on your sleep cycle as "sleep aids" (which are generally benzodiazepines or "tranquillizers"). And you're very right about using them sparingly.
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