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« Reply #195 on: November 08, 2005, 20:17:56 pm »
hi ladies,

Heather - oh my goodness how scary! glad you all seem to be doing well.

JulieG - hope the power comes on soon for you!  it is way too hot for november!  it is supposed to be fall now, isn't it??? 

branwen - good luck with the move.  hope it goes smoothly & you're breathing that magnificent air soon! 

Meats - i haven't served them yet, but i think luke is old enough, but it's such a pain to make them that i'm kinda waiting until he's better with finger food - and then i'll just buy the little jarred cubed ones.  if i do end up doing purees, i'll just buy them, but those are kinda expensive too.   :?

Preschool - i used to think i would send my kids.  no sooner than 3yo.  but now that i look at how much it costs -  :shock:   more for 2 days a week than what i currently pay in daycare!!  and my sitter is teaching jaina her shapes & numbers & colors - well, as much as a 2yo can learn that stuff!   :lol:   one thing i have found, though, is that the larger local high schools offer a "preschool" of sorts through the childcare classes.  those students need kids to practice on.  just a couple hours, a few days a week - for maybe $25/week.  we might do that next year.

totally agree that these kids are way too rushed. julieb - haven't thought about david elkind in years - you are bringing back many memories!  :wink:

Us - i have a meeting with the principal on Thursday.  Praying it goes well.   :wink:
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« Reply #196 on: November 08, 2005, 21:53:01 pm »
Meats- Haven't given Eirwen "whole" meats just yet but Eirwen now has bites of everything that I eat if she will eat it.  She LOVES chicken korma.  Yes spicy I know :shock: She loved it so much she didn't want to stop eating it.  I can't believe she loves spicy things but I guess it's a good thing.  She will now pretty much eat whatever.  She has also had ham.  But I don't give her the pieces it is just cooked with the sauce or soup that she is eating...so a little bit of strings and flavor I guess. 

Jaime- Good luck with your meeting! Keep us posted!

Tammy- oh forgot about the potty training thing.  You didn't sound harsh or anything.  I was so confused about it too.  I think we will try as Eirwen is so regular.  My friend got us the Baby Bjorn potty so I'm excited about that.  i am waiting until we are moved though.  I guess we will just work on building the association but you can't really hope for anything more.  It's just I have seen some parents really struggle into the 3rd and 4th year and end up using embarrassment and bribes to finally get the job done- it ends up being a negative instead of a positive... I don't really want to do that...so we'll see.  Then again I have read/heard lit. that says it is purely biological when it kicks in.  Some babes just aren't ready I guess...so I won't push Eirwen- if it works it works and if not we'll start again later :D

Deborah- hi there! good to hear from you again...I just "came back" as well.  I have had a physical.  My SIL thought it was my thyroid too but my doc said it is ok. :?

Weightloss & Julie B- There is a book called the Post-Pregnancy Handbook.  It is my "bible" sort of in terms of postpartum health.  It talks about all the stuff going on after you have a baby and the hormones etc. esp if you are breastfeeding...and dieting, etc.  I'm sure you know this but you are still "eating for two" while breastfeeding and you must be careful when dieting.  Actually that could be what is dragging you down if you are eating lots of carbs/sugars.  The body uses all the good stuff for the milk and we get what is left over.  :roll: 

Us again- no napping today.  Must be teeth.  She is highly amusing though WAY overtired.  She just laughs and laughs...when did that happen?  It is kind of scary though because her eyes look like they are going to pop out of her head!  I'm like Eirwen calm down!
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« Reply #197 on: November 09, 2005, 03:06:13 am »
Branwen-  :lol: Leah giggles like crazy when she is overtired too. She gets a little wacko!

Food - Leah will not eat pureed meats or the stage three foods with chunks. She gags and spits them back out at me.  :roll: So we are still doing pureed veges and fruits and cereal. She loves pear, peach, and bannana chunks too. She threw up after eating yougurt, so we haven't tried it again yet.

Formula - We are down to 4 bottles a day. There is no way we will get down to three anytime soon. She just won't eat enough solids to satify her. Leah will not take formula in the sippy either. Heather - my doc said wean from bottles at 12months, but there is no reason she shoulnd't be aloud to have a nightime bottle past 12 months. He said take it slow or we'll have a very unhappy baby. NOt sure what my "plan" of attack is quite yet.....

Jaime - Good luck with your meeting - go get 'em!

Deborah - You are so not a newbie!!!  :wink: Great to hear from you again.

Tarri - I have an elliptical cross trainer machine. I try to use it everyday. But since the weather has been nice Leah and I have been walking instead. Soon enough winter will hit us and there will be no more walks.  :(

Well I'm off to bed. Hope everyone has a great night or day!
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« Reply #198 on: November 09, 2005, 03:11:17 am »
BTW, anyone heard from Nikki - Lise's Mom? Haven't seen her around in awhile.
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« Reply #199 on: November 09, 2005, 09:27:54 am »
Meats - Daniel loves meat.  I make him a form of shepherds pie and also a form of spaghetti bolognaise (just mash it slightly now instead of pureeing).  Funnily enough he seems to LOVE the texture of lumpy foods.  He's also had chicken and pork and ham.  I usually do chicken by boiling it up in formula with lots of other veggies etc thrown in.  Usually tastes good :)

Milk in sippy cup - tried it a few times but he won't really have it!  Strange but he seems to just think milk should only come from a bottle.  If it comes from a cup it must not be right.

liquid feeds - Yep we have been on 3 feeds for about a month now.  Daniel takes 7oz at 7am, 4oz at 1pm and then 7oz again at about 6pm.  We are currently weaning him off the lunch time feed.  He now has 2 oz at 1pm.  He eats so much solids wise now that I'm sure the milk can decrease.  In fact he seems less interested now anyway, especially in the 1pm bottle.  Our plan by next month is to have him taking a good 7 or 8oz bottle first thing, lots of water / juice throughout the day and then a good 7 or 8oz bottle again before bed.  My only concern is the water/juice intake through the day.  He doesn't seem to want much.  I keep offering it to him but he only takes a sip or two before he shoves it away again.  If he's thirsty will he drink?  If he doesn't drink does it just mean he's not thirsty?  Should I worry or not?  Any advice? :?

Deborah - great to hear from you again.  I was thinking about you a lot recently wondering where you were!  Hope the crazyness settles down soon. 

Branwen - wow, chicken korma :shock:  I am impressed!  Daniel too would probably jump at the chance.  I've not really tried him with any spicey foods yet.  Maybe I'll be brave enough soon.

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« Reply #200 on: November 09, 2005, 14:42:21 pm »
A quick recap on what's been going on with us...

When I last posted on the old thread, we had just gotten back from Maya's 9mos checkup where we found out she had actually lost weight since her 6mos checkup.  Of course the next day, my good eater decided to stop taking solids.  We had mealtime battles for two weeks, and now, thankfully, she is starting to eat again.

However, now it seems she has some sort of gastro bug (though not as bad as what Debra and her family have) or so the doctor thinks.  I think it is something more as this has been going on for too long and it is not your normal gastro diarreah.  TMI warning.  Food is passing through her pretty much untouched.  I can tell exactly what she ate and in what order.

On top of that, she got her DOC band last week, and to say she does not like wearing it would be an understatement.  We were finally making some progress when I discovered that she was developing a skin irritation on one side of her head.  So we've had to take it off until that heals.

And if that just weren't enough, dh has a nasty cold, I haven't gotten any work done in weeks, and MIL is coming week after next for I don't know how long, but prob at least 10-12 days.
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« Reply #201 on: November 09, 2005, 17:27:52 pm »
Oh yeah, and I can count on one hand all of the decent naps we've had since we got back from our trip in September.
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« Reply #202 on: November 09, 2005, 18:05:23 pm »
Hi there - I am new to this thread and I hope you don't mind if I join you....?  I haven't read the whole thing (yet!) - it looks like you all know each other really well by now!  I have been in touch with some of you on other forums; I have found this site invaluable since I found out about BW when dd was 5 mo.  And it's so nice to have a place where everyone's babies are the same age. 

Dh and I moved to Amsterdam from Colorado 6 wks before dd's due date and we are hoping to move back in the next few months although we are originally from UK. 

In fact, Hazel, I saw your holiday pictures - dh is from near there, I have great memories of those places! 

Deb I hope your family is doing ok with that nasty bug. 

And Deborah, that sounds like a yucky thing Maya has too, I wish her get well soon and that you survive everything too!

Hope to get to know you all a bit before long!

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« Reply #203 on: November 09, 2005, 19:47:25 pm »
Deborah, can you cook lentils and then freeze them in ice cube trays?  Do you puree them?  Also, what's your routine supposed to look like?  Maybe you could post some details and us jan/feb mom's can see if we can help :) .  And it sounds like you should follow up on the digestion issues.

Hazel, I find that if Emily is thirsty, she drinks.  Also, I would say if Daniel isn't constipated then he's getting enough to drink.  That's a good idea about boiling the meat in formula.  I think I might give that a try with chicken, I heard that milk is supposed to act as a tenderizer.

Us, I gave Emily a tiny piece of tuna from a can.  She ate it without making a funny face, but she didn't want to eat anymore.  I guess I'll wait till she's 9mos to start meat seriously, mostly cause I'm too lazy. :oops:   Does anyone know if this is the age where they start to cry to get their way?  I'm sure Emily started a crying fit cause I wouldn't hold her so she could walk around the room.  She's got to start to learn to crawl, cause she's getting really frustrated with sitting still!  I definately see she's gaining strength from all the practice walking so that should help I hope. 

Happy Emily news, I got a few giggles when I put a container of candies on her head and she moved her head so they fell off.  Very cute.


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« Reply #204 on: November 09, 2005, 20:25:15 pm »
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Does anyone know if this is the age where they start to cry to get their way?
Oh my, we're in to this big time.  Kelsey is really starting to show her temper, and it really frustrates me.  I guess I've had to eat my words about not letting my child throw a fit and get her way.  I've learned to pick my battles for sure, and she's only 9 months old!  What in the world am I in for??  I really have to watch her, too, because she arches her back and throws herself backwards.  That's a potentially dangerous situation for sure.  But, yeah, it's usually if I'm not right there to get her or go where she wants to go.  She also goes crazy if I try to sit her up in the highchair. like if she slides down, or situate her on the changing table better.  I don't know if she's expecting to be picked up and then gets mad that I don't, but it's driving me crazy.
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« Reply #205 on: November 09, 2005, 21:17:57 pm »
Tarri: each tissue salt comes in it's own pill, and there are some pills that are combinations, like for 'coughs and colds'. They really work wonders on me, and  I like the fact that they are natural and you cannot overdose on them (excess is just flushed out of your system).

Meat/Food: We started meat I think at 7.5 months with chicken. I make the chicken casserole that is in Annabel Karmel's book. Carrots, potatoes and chicken mince. Luka loves loves loves lentils. We started beef at 8 months. And this week we're moving onto fish. I choose one day of the week and go wild cooking, then into little containers and into the freezer. Lentils can be frozen.

I don't puree anymore, I just mash. I like the fact that Luka can almost eat what we eat, it will make life a tad easier.

Milk feeds: We're still on 4. Sometimes we are on 3. But I'm not too worried for some reason. We'll drop down to 3 once I (hopefully) start working.

Deborah: Welcome back! You sound like you're having a hard time, I hope you all feel better soon. What does the paed say about Maya's eating and the fact that the food is just passing through her? To me it sounds like her body isn't absorbing the food (but I'm no doctor)

Hazel: lovely pics! Daniel is such a doll!

Jaime: GOOD LUCK!! Please kup?

Kate: Welcome!  :) What is your lo's name?

Heather: I hear you on the tantrums! Funny how someone so little knows EXACTLY what they want! lol! I've also learnt to pick my battles. I wonder what the toddler and teen years are going to bring us?  :shock: Today we were playing in the bucket as it was hot, and when it was time to go inside, boy did we have the biggest tantrum ever! Sheesh!

Us: Naps are hard again, I think it's because we've been running errands all day for 4 days. So now we're just settling in again. We had sleeping through again for about a week (once we got the temperature thing sorted), but now we have nightwakings again. Not sure why. We've now resorted to co-sleeping, as I'm just too tired to fight.  :oops:
Will have to start again when we move.
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« Reply #206 on: November 09, 2005, 23:53:11 pm »
Tarri - I puree them, but only because Maya won't eat puree with texture, and then freeze them in cubes like anything else.  Any soft-skinned bean will work.  Black beans are next, but not until we get the gastro issues sorted out.  I usually buy dried because the canned ones have sodium and preservatives (and dried beans are way cheaper).

Hazel - I was discussing fluid intake and dehydration with the nurse last week.  Provided he's wetting several diapers a day and producing tears, you should be good.  You can also check the inside of his mouth.  If it feels at all dry, he needs more fluid.

I have an appt with the ped for next week to discuss weight gain and digestion issues.  I do think it sounds like she has some sort of digestive enzyme problem, but they keep telling me it's just the gastro bug that's going around.

I've tried everything I can think of to resolve her nap issues from varying awake times to wake-to-sleep.  We've temporarily reinstituted the catnap because she's been so exhausted.  Having to get used to sleeping in the helmet surely isn't helping, though the problem existed before she got it.

I've posted on the Getting Back on Track and Nap boards, but I think I need to reassess, observe for a few days, and go back to basics.  However, with MIL coming, I may just wait until after she leaves to make any big schedule changes.  Maya's routine comes crashing to a halt whenever she comes, and I'd hate to make progress only to have to start over yet again.  It's pessimistic, I know, but optimism takes energy.
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« Reply #207 on: November 10, 2005, 00:19:00 am »
Deborah - you and Maya are having such a rough go of it!  I hope that whatever is going on with her digestive track is something that either goes away on it's own (such as a bug), or is something that is easily remedied.  Good luck on the dr. appt. next week, and definitely keep us posted!

Kate - welcome!  I haven't been on this thread that long either, so jump right in!

Hazel - great pics!

Christine - I am with you on the purees.

Jaime - good luck on your meeting - you have to let us know how it goes!

Food - for us, we are still at stage 2 type foods.  I try occasionally to give Ethan something, but so far, no success.  For example, today I tried some soft pear chunks.  He gagged and threw up a bit.  Lovely.  He's a big pro with the puffs now, and chews them on his gums.  So, not quite sure when he'll get the connection that he can do that with all the food?  I haven't tried meats at all with him.  He just doesn't seem to be at that stage yet where I can give him chunks or whatever of food.  So, that would mean I would have to puree the meat, and well, it just doesn't seem to be worth it for the little he might eat.  And trust me, he eats well!  He takes 4 oz. of fruit plus cereal in the am, 4 ozs. of fruit (and sometimes some more cereal at lunch), and 4 ozs of veggie plus 2 oz of fruit at dinner.  Plus puffs with all meals.   If anyone has any suggestions on what I should try to give him next, please feel free!  I just don't know what to try him on that he will "chew".  I've tried banana, pears, etc. 

Formula - Ethan is currently taking about 20 oz a day, in 4 bottles.  I offer 28!  He is just not that into the formula anymore.  It's a struggle to get the 20 sometimes.  But I can't see us going to 3 bottles a day anytime soon, cause the one to give up would be the afternoon one (I'm guessing), and that's the one where he takes the most!  So, I'm sticking with what we have so far. 

Us - nothing much new.  Ethan seems to finally be getting over his cough.  Although he did wake up at 4:45 this morning  :shock:  having a coughing fit.  He quit, but never really went back to sleep.  Nothing much else new to report.  Other than he has to have a toy in BOTH hands now when trying to pull up on everything.  Makes it a little difficult.  Plus, does anyone else's child just stop holding on?  And therefore fall down?  Sometimes I think he forgets that he's supposed to hang on!  I usually just let him fall (he won't hurt himself on anything), and he'll just plop down on his bottom.  And up he comes again.

We don't have our 9 month check up for another two weeks.  I'm quite anxious to see what his height and weight are.  Not anxious, just curious.  I am going to guess about 22 or so pounds, but no idea on the height.  He is definitely a big boy!  Although probably not as tall as the supermodels!    :wink:   He way outgrew his 6 to 9 month clothes in length a long time ago.  Right now we're in 9 to 12, but some of those pants are getting a tad short too! 

Well, have a great evening girls!  My plan - feed ds, bath, put to bed, then me eat dinner, and go to bed about 8 pm!  :oops:  Dh is traveling, so I can do that and not feel like an old housewife!   :wink:  :oops:  :lol:



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« Reply #208 on: November 10, 2005, 01:19:41 am »
Tammy, Kelsey and Ethan are exactly the same about eating.  Even foods she loves in the jar she will not tolerate as a piece.  But she goes nuts over the veggie puffs and would eat the whole can if I let her.  I tried cutting little pieces of toast and throwing them on the tray with the puffs, and she wouldn't even touch them.  She gagged when I put it in her mouth.  So, every now and then I'll throw it on there and not make a deal of it, and it's still there when she's done.  We've also tried pear pieces, she gagged; bannana, she gagged then got that terrible diaper rash; a sliver of chicken, she gagged; a mashed up bite of chicken and veggie casserole, she gagged; you get the point.  But the thing is that I'm trying, and I think that's all we can do.  Just put things in front of him over and over and maybe one day it will click.  Actually, I'm letting myself feel better about it now because at least with jar food I know exactly how much she's consuming.
And yet another similarity.  Yes, Kelsey just lets go and turns like she's gonna just walk off, not realizing she can't.  I let her go if she's just going straight down on her bum so she'll learn, but if she's going sideways or forward I catch her and just repeat "hold on" and place her hands on something.
Deborah-definitely sounds like a digestive problem to me.  And I hope the helmet situation improves.  I can't imagine what that feels like to her.  But you worked so hard to get that, and I really hope it helps.
Kate, welcome!
Jaime-can't wait to hear about your meeting.

 :arrow: Let's have a tooth count from everyone.  Kelsey got the 2 bottom together, and they are oddly cute, what little she's let me see of them.
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« Reply #209 on: November 10, 2005, 06:13:58 am »
Whew!  You've been busy little posters!  :wink:

So while the supermodel babies are into 18 mth pants, I've discovered Asher has short little legs and a long torso.  :?   His belly needs the 12 mth pants, but I have to roll them up twice!  :shock:  He hardly seems chubby, so why do they make the waists on baby pants so tight?  So they don't crawl out of them?  It's forever pulling down his diaper though.  I feel like I'm always trying to fix his plumber's crack!  :lol:  What to do??

Schae, I'm so fasicinated by the tissue salts!  I'm going to have to look for them at the store!  Glad you mentioned them!

Meat, I want to try soon, just a hassle to make.  I'd need left overs since I feed new foods in the morning, but I don't feel like cooking a chicken dinner at 8 am!  :lol:   Tried tofu this morning and I thought for sure he'd hate it (didn't do anything to it and I thought it tasted nasty), but he liked it!  :shock:

Heather, when I taught Asher to use a sippy, I put EBM in it.  Then I switched to water since it's hard for me to pump enough.  The few times I've had extra, he gets weirded out since he's expecting water!  I've kept trying though, and it seems I can get him used to the EBM again if I just kept offering in the sippy.  Could you offer two sippies and call them by name so she recognizes and knows what to expect (milk, water, juice, etc)?  I always name the foods as he's eating them.  He seems to react better to what I may offer on the spoon if he knows what's coming.

Finger foods, Asher is a pro and prefers them to spoon-feeding.  But he'll tolerate my spoon-feeding if I alternate with finger foods.  Some foods just don't make good finger foods, like squash.  When we started out, I just slowly upped the texture in the puree.  We had lots of gagging, but I just kept at it each day for the first few bites (then might blend/mash more for the rest of the meal).  I figured the only way he was going to learn to chew and manuever textures in his mouth was with practice.  Once I knew he liked a food pureed (like pears), I tried it as a finger food.  It took a couple weeks before he even understood the concept, and even then, there was lots of gagging.  I knew he liked the taste of pears, so I figured it was just a matter of getting used to the new texture and shape.  Just kept offering and eventually he was a pro.  He still gags each time he tries a new food though, whether he likes the taste or not.  It's just another new texture he has to get used to.  Other things we tried in the beginning besides ripe banana and pear were cooked sweet potato chunks kinda cold, peas (though the shells are a challege for them to get used to at first), green bean halves, and over-cooked spiral pasta.

3 liquid feeds, we're technically down to three, though I break up one into two halves to use in place of a solid food snack (only offer one side for those).  He was already trying to drop the bedtime feed because he wasn't hungry, so I switched the two mid day feeds to halves in order to preserve the bedtime feed.  Works most of the time (sometimes he's still not hungry enough).  I still think he's prolly getting a good 24 oz though.  Any less and I'd worry and start trying to give it in place of water at meals.  I didn't think they were supposed to drop to 16 oz until age 2?  I can't remember.  My ped. seemed to want him to be at 24 or more still right now.  Personally, I wouldn't drop until it seemed neccesary.

Jaime, this is the first I've heard of David Elkind.  Any thoughts/opinions on his books?

Deborah, how very frustrating!!   :shock:  I really hope you can get to the bottom of it!

Temper tantrums, yes, we've been dealing with this for a month or two.  It's become even more imperative that Asher gets good naps or he becomes an emotional time bomb.   :shock:   I've seen him cry simply because he dropped a toy!  I think a good part of this is his high needs personality so I'm pretty laid back about it.  I now give him 5 minute warnings before I pick him up for anything.  As he's playing, I'll just casually start talking about taking a nap soon.  Sometimes he comes to me first and we can just go, other times I pick him up when it's time and he's relatively okay.  I also tell him before I'm going to interrupt him to check his diaper, nurse, eat, etc.  This has helped avoid a lot of meltdowns we used to have.  I also pick my battles.  Some things just aren't worth it!   :wink:

Tammy, the letting go was the precursor to standing alone and then  walking for Asher.  It was also just a few seconds before he'd plop down.

Teeth Count -- Asher has 8 now (4 top/bottom).  6 of which came within 1 month of each other!   :shock:   Let's hope he's done for a while!  And that lonely pair of 2 bottom teeth does make for some adorable smiles!!   :D
Julie
DS 1/31/05 (spirited/textbook but a touchy sleeper)
DD 10/15/10 (textbook/angel/spirited)