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Naps for 14 month old are a MESS!! HELP!
« on: December 03, 2005, 05:11:57 am »
I have a 14 month old who sleeps wonderfully (since 9 weeks) at night we have our R&R and he goes down each night with no struggle and sleeps from 7:30pm to 6:00am (which I am happy with). 

Naps are a different story.  When he hit 10 months he suddenly would start screeming when I would place him in his crib and would hold on to me for dear life.  I started driving him in the car to sleep and then putting him in his crib, that no longer worked and I started walking him in the stroller and if I tried to move him he would wake up screaming and not go back to sleep, that no longer worked and I have now resorted to nursing him to sleep in my bed.  He typically takes naps at 9:30am and 2:30pm and they are only about 30min to 1hr, sometimes if he wakes up at 30min and I am quick enough I can nurse him back to sleep for another 30 min.  The last 2 days have been horrible he has taken only one nap at 9:30am and for only 45min.  How can I get a 14 month old to have good napping habits?  He is a textbook/spirited toddler.  Help!!!

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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2005, 11:29:14 am »
Hi

Ohh we had so many nap issues so I know exactly how you feel. Same thing - DS fine at night, but took some real consistency - no changing the routine - to get better naps. He now has one nap a day - but it is getting shroter as he gets older. At 14 months he took one two hour nap around 11 am til 1 pm and bed at 7. Mine is VERY spirited and stubbonr.

If your LO has 10 1/2 hours at night he still probably needs a good nap. However, I can say that my ds and lots of others I know started moving to one nap around this age. Could this be part of it do you think?

First, though, I guess you've had this nap thing going on for quite a while. Seperation anxiety is pretty keen around 10 months or so, so that might be also part of it? This is what helped us:

1. Sticking to a nap routine that never changes. It can take a good few weeks but it does work.
2. If you're want to stick with two naps then you're going to have to do this twice a day. If you want to move to one nap you'll perhaps have to gradually  stretch him 10 or 15 mins per day on the first nap and finally (took us amonth) it becomes one nap. During the month we had earlier bedtime when no second nap happened ( 6 pm - it didn't affect wake time) or a short 20 min nap late afternoon and a 7 pm bedtime.
3. Decide how you want your ds to go to sleep. If he settles well at night then you might find it works fairly quickly. Decide where you want him to sleep, too.
4. Have you tried soothing him /pu/pd? Pretty tiring at this age but we found that soothing ds until he settled worked after a couple of weeks hard slog.
5. Show no anxiety, do the routine (of your choice - sotthing, sitting by him, pu/pd) and continue for 45 mins. If he isn't settled take out of room wiat a while and go for it again 30 mins later/whenever he looks tired again. Hard work but it does pay off.
6. Little by little the amount of soothing can be decreased - say over a couple of weeks - so we did stroking his head then sitting by him to gradually moving a chair away from the crib. At 14 months you might find it takes longer to withdraw comforting.

It sounds to me (from a humble mum's viewpoint) that your ds got anxious as is normal and this then made you change routines a lot. As such, he has unlearnt his napping behaviour. Golly - we've all been there! Once he learns that you are coming back, and he isn't missing anything, and that he can have a nice sleep he will settle down again. Go for an earlier bedtime if needed, too, so he isn't overtired on bad nap days. Take the feeding out of his nap routine; hard but it does work, honest as I am  till feeding once a day at 22 months! The first few days will be tough but you can do it - enlist help if needed at a weekend.

You're likely to get crying (we got screaming) but it is not distress on his part if you stick by him and support him.  Crying is so normal when the routine changes and they're worried that mom is doing something weird. You have to put faith in your boy that he is smart and has the inner resources to learn about a new napping routine. For your part, you have to stay utterly consistent to the letter. Remember, if ds is nursed to sleep at 45 or 30 mins into his nap that is what he needs to drift back off again.

I am sure others here have more and different pointers to help. Let us know how you get on.

Sue
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2005, 20:31:37 pm »
You could try a nap at about 10.30ish,if he can stay awake that long.

Also,if he does only have a short nap then I would try to bring his bedtime down to about 6.30pm.From my own experience and from other posters that really seems to help.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2005, 06:42:31 am »
Sue and Sarah Thank you for you're replys!

I have been thinking it is time to go to one nap.  So perhaps I will start eliminating the morning nap this month and we can start the new year on our new and improved schedule.

When soothing do you stay in the room the entire time (until he is sleeping or about to fall asleep)? or do you leave after giving assuring words and let him fuss for a bit and then go back?  The few times I made attempts to get him napping in his crib he crys/screams and when I go in to sooth him he just cries ten times harder the minute I turn my back to walk out the door.

When/If he wakes up 30 minutes into his nap do I just try to sooth him back to sleep?  If so how long should I try to sooth him, another 45 min?

Currently our schedule is as follows:

6am - wake
7:30am - breakfast
9:30am - nap
12:00pm - lunch
2:30pm - nap
7:30pm - bed

I would love any and all feedback you could provide.  I am here to learn from all you tallented moms.

Thanks a bunch

Shannan
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2005, 07:42:46 am »
Hi again

Soothing - well if he cries harder it could be that you need to wean him gently from soothing, though I know for some moms here their LOs settle better if they leave the room. In that sense, if you leave and return quickly it could be he cries harder to get you to stay - it is a balance between comforting your ds and not letting him control the comforting.

For us, I started by staying until he was alsleep with physical contact. Then moved to sitting with soothing words in between pu/pd or just pd until he stopped getting up. Then moved to no words in between pd. Then to no pd at all, just sitting by the crib until he settled. Then moving myself further away from the crib while he settle. Hence I didn't leave the room at all for about a week. After this point I did leave the room and by then he self-settled.

As for waking after 30 mins.Yes, in the beginning I did try to re-soothe back to sleep using exactly the technique. But he actually stopped waking once he'd learnt to settle himself - less than a week. I always gave it around 20 mins. Because you're moving to one nap, though, it might take a bit longer as you juggle with teh timings. As said, try strethcing him by 10-15 mins - no mroe or he'll het overtired. And bring the bedtime forwards (it will revert once you're down to one nap).

Sue xx
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2005, 04:02:14 am »
Thanks so much!

It was amazing today!  I told myself I would keep him up 10 min past his normal am nap time but if he wasn't acting tired I would just let him go until he was ready for his nap.  And what do you know 11am exactly he yawned and he napped for 1hr 40min.  I put him to bed 20 minutes early tonight and he went down no problem!  I am sure he will sleep until 7am as you have said since everything else has come true.

I haven't done the weaning thing yet.  I think I am going to do that when we get back from our travels.

thank you thank you thank you.  I think I just needed a little support and some confiedence.  thanks again

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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2005, 07:27:15 am »
Hope it all goes well.
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2005, 07:37:26 am »
Hi

That's great news. Well done for having a go. I hope he does sleep until normal time! He should (even if there are a few blips along the way). Step by step sounds a good idea. It sounds as if he did need a later nap and a slightly earlier bedtime - seems common in the transition phase.

We're slowly moving to very short or no naps - so with you all the way!

Sue x
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