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« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2005, 15:30:47 pm »
Hi, I haven't forgotten about you...I have asked our board for their input as I want to make sure we get you the right answer/help.

How are things now - same, better, worse...

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that the couple of days I have tried to keep him up 'til about 3 hrs. from when he got up, I didn't see a difference.
I did want to say though, it takes 2 weeks to change an infants bio-rhythm so a couple days won't always tell you if you are heading in the right direction.  I always recommend sticking w/ a new method or tech. for at least 2 weeks before changing, or you will confuse the poor wee thing.  He needs time to “get it”…kwim??

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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2005, 04:16:54 am »
I am reading through both pages right now and will get back to you shortly.  Our lo's are close in age so hopefully I can help.
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2005, 04:51:26 am »
HI Williams Mom,

So I have read all the notes and I truly think all of Michelle's advice has been wonderful.  To add a few things though:

1. It is impossible to extend Taylor's naps now that she is older.  pat/shush, pu/pd, wake to sleep and all the other techniques that worked like a charm before she was 6 months will absolutely not work on her.  I have tried pu/pd for 45 minutes days on end, and it just ends up with a very sad and tired baby and mommy.  When taylor reverts back to short naps, the ONLY thing that fixes them is adjusting awake times and once we get the right A time going, she goes back to normal.  so it sounds like william may be like Taylor, so he may not respond to "extensions".  Which means you have to move on with your day and try for tomorrow.

2. I strongly believe that at 9 months he can handle a 3 hour A time and just needs a little extra help from mom to adjust his internal biological clock.  Right now at 8.5 months our a times are:

3 hours in the am making first nap at about 10 am.  She will usually sleep for about 1-1.5 hours (I don't let her sleep longer than 1.5 hours as it will affect her afternoon nap).

3.5 hours in the afternoon making her 2nd nap about 2:30/3:00 pm.  She will then usually sleep till 4ish and bed at 7ish.

****For the last 3 days she has been taking a 30 minute afternoon nap  :evil:   I racked my brain and remembered that most of the time at this age a 30 minute nap is because they were overtired.  So I put 2 and 2 together and rememberd taht she has been doing a lot of stuff developmentally this week (sitting up on own, standing up on own, crawling for real), so by the time her 2nd nap came around she was overtired.  Today I shaved 15 minutes off of both A times and voila!  A 1 hour 15 minute am nap and a 1.5 hour pm nap!   :)  So the moral is that when sick, learnign something new, etc., A times may need to be readjsuted for a few days.

SO, I think you need to stick with increasing A time, which by the way, are you doing it 15 minutes every few days???  If not, and you are trying at the 3 hours straight away he will get overtired and will have a battle.  So slowly increas the A time to the 3 hour goal over the next week or so.  Also, keep the extra A time VERY MELLOW.  Walk outside, or around the house.  Play on the floor in his room.

Also, like michelle said, it can take 2 weeks to reset a clock, so please give it some time.

That is all I can think of right now.  Let me know if you have any other qusetions.

I did want to say that I think it is awesome that you are working so hard at trying to do what is best for ds.  You sound like a great mom!
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2006, 02:11:10 am »
THANKS so much both Michelle and Andrea!!  Things are about the same on my end with DS's naps.  He is sleeping really good in the AM, actually took a 2 hr. AM nap and a 1.15 minute nap in the PM the other day.  I am trying to do what you have suggested and working on the awake time gradually.  It's hard b/c some days he seems tired 2.5 hrs after his AM nap and some days at the 3 hr mark he seems OK.  Is that normal??  I guess it all depends on how the AM nap went.  I still (sorry  :) ) have a few more questions... as always! 

1.  Is is OK for them to take a 2 hr. AM nap?  I know it's a bit long and may interfere w/ the PM nap but just wondering.  It doesn't happen often, that's for sure.

2.  He still seems really tired by 5:00pm most days.  I know at this point the third nap isn't really a good thing.  Is it messing him up to just keep him up 'til 7:00pm even if it means he's up for 4-5 hrs. after his PM nap?  Andrea, what do you do on the days Taylor takes a 30 min. PM nap?

I am going to continue to increase his awake time GRADUALLY.  Thanks for reminding me that it takes a couple of weeks to see results.  I am guilty of trying to get him to 3 hours immediately and it has backfired!  I often forget that it takes babies (and grownups!) time to adjust to new schedules/situations.  Unfortunately, this coming week, he has 2 appointments so he may not have good naps those days but I'm going to keep at it on our "normal" days.
I appreciate all the help!  It makes me feel so good to read the struggles others have on this site and to know I'm not a neurotic mom but just want my DS to be well rested!  :)
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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2006, 04:40:17 am »
HI THere,

sorry to just get back to you today, but was quite busy over the new years holiday and had guests in town.  Anyhow, to answer your questions:

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1. Is is OK for them to take a 2 hr. AM nap? I know it's a bit long and may interfere w/ the PM nap but just wondering. It doesn't happen often, that's for sure.

Yes, I think it is okay, but keep in mind that it may mean a short afternoon nap.  At least that seems to be the case many times with Taylor.  So to kind of keep things running smoothly, I usually don't let her sleep longer than 1.5 hours in the AM.

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2. He still seems really tired by 5:00pm most days. I know at this point the third nap isn't really a good thing. Is it messing him up to just keep him up 'til 7:00pm even if it means he's up for 4-5 hrs. after his PM nap? Andrea, what do you do on the days Taylor takes a 30 min. PM nap?

4 Hours of A time before bed is actually not that uncommon at this age.  I know it seems a little bit much and sometimes I am still skeptical, but usually go with the flow and am always surprised at how well she handles it.  If she is definitely getting overtured than I will put her to bed by 6:30 or 6:45 and it helps a lot.

Let me know if you have anymore Q's!
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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2006, 04:49:44 am »
Thanks Andrea, beat me to it...we too have guests from Scotland visiting  right now.

I completely agree w/ Andrea - keep at it, be consistent and he will get the hang of the new schedule.

Keep us posted on your progress!

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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2006, 14:47:50 pm »
Thanks to you both SOOOOOO much.  All your advice helps clarify things a lot for me.  I will keep you updated...hopefully things will progress and he'll get better w/ the extended awake time!  Happy New Year!   :D
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