March/April '05 Thread #4

[Little Bear's Mum]

Thanks Nikki, very helpful. Now you can go clean your house!  :lol: Nice to know I'm not the only one who cleans at strange times.  :oops:

[becca24]

Is anyone's lo's getting really clingy/whiney(whingy)?

Yes and it's really starting to get me down.  :cry:  :cry:  I remember when she was a newborn and I am not sure if I had a touch of PND but I was really touchy/stressed and I cried a lot. The tears have been gone for a while now but I can feel them creeping back up on me and I think that's the reason. At least with the (non) sleeping I had a plan and something to work towards but I don't know what to do about this. This is embarrasing but yesterday I really felt like smashing my own face into the kitchen bench  :oops: I am also thinking I will never have another baby   I would like to have two but when I think about going through all this again it freaks me out. Then I think to myself I am such a big sook because plenty of people have worse problems and more children than me and they get through it.

Sorry Kate, to steal your question and sorry to everyone. I usually try to post 'happy thoughts' LOL but needed to get that out.  :oops: I am such a sook  :?  :lol:

[becca24]

Jeez my new years resolution is going really f#@%ing well isn't it   :roll:

[Little Bear's Mum]

Bec, don't be sorry at all, that's what we're here for. Didn't you see all my posts above, perhaps I forgot to say how upset I'm getting about this and stressed, and the banging the head sounds familiar. I'm actually asking Daniel what's wrong and hoping he'll talk and tell me in words I fully understand.

Anyway, enough about me. Hang in there and know it is only a phase. I've read it can last a month or two. I guess for some it may last longer though. Perhaps could turn it into a positive thought, that Halle really really loves you, and you are the most important person in her life. She wants your cuddles and reassurance to know that everything is ok, and she will be able to be more independent again soon because she knows you will always be there when she needs you. We play lots of peek-a-boo with Daniel which not only entertains him, but it helps to learn that we go away, but we still come back. We often do it around doors.

Now that I've said all that, feel free to quote me when I go thru the same thing, as I said previously Daniel's a little bit that way but not all the time at the moment. I hope things get better Bec. Oh and friends who have got  two children all seem to find the older one helps entertain the younger one, thereby making things seem a little easier. Sending happy vibes your way. {{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}

[Colesmom]

Bec-((((hugs to you)))) I ditto what Hayley said.  It's only a phase to get through.  Just think how you feel, teary eyed and frustrated and how nice it is to have support from DH or other loved ones.  That's just how Halle feels.  She just wants extra hugs and attention from mum.  If given to her now she'll know that you're there for her even when you're not in sight and things will get better.  Don't ever feel bad for posting sad/angry/frustrated thoughts.  That's what we're here for.  I have had many a feeling as you, especially in the last 6 weeks with little sleep.  I've shed many a tear in the middle of the night while patting a bum, sitting in the glider waiting for the jolt, or believe it or not, trying to get some stretching in so that my time out of bed isn't a complete waste :?

Naomi-yay for Riley!  That is big big news.

Jody-you're of course welcome to come and go as you are able.  I wish I had more time here and I'm on every day!  Glad to hear you're all feeling better and YAY for the steps!

Judy-oh dear...glad to hear you're feeling better already and I felt better reading Karen's response that your breastmilk will protect the girls.

Nikki-LOL and bloody fly.  cannot wait to tell DH!

MIcky-sooo sorry about your night.  hope you get it figured out.  wonder if he's just got a stomach bug of some sort rather than the reflux??  should you call your ped and see if anything is going around?

Janet-Welcome!  Join in anytime and let us know more about you and Kay.  I grew up in Oakville by the way!

Hayley-sorry I can't help about the food issue.  I am finding that Cole struggles a bit with chunkier stuff.  I'm starting to mash his apples and squash instead of pureeing and he takes much longer to eat and doesn't have as much.  He's making progress on finger foods too.  Not nearly where some of the los are though eating curries, spag bol (still don't know what that is) etc.  btw, for those combined type meals..did you all test each ingredient first or just mash it all up and feed away?

Traci, I'm just curious, when you say Cole is awake for an hour or so in the night what are you doing with him? Is this lights on time, or are you just trying to get him to go to sleep? I couldn't imagine being awake for that long in the night now, so hats of to you lady for staying awake during the day.

Maybe now with the tooth something might improve??? Crossing fingers for you Traci. Is that Cole's first tooth?

I am trying to put him back down the whole time.  I have to admit that I give in a lot and touch him (his legs, hip etc) more than I should.  It's hard in the night to do full pupd.  I did it last night for bed...but can't bring myself to do it when the house is so quiet and i'm so darn tired.  It was Cole's 4th tooth but it's taken nearly 2 weeks to cut through.

Jo-welcome back.  can't wait to hear about the beach.

resolutions. hmmmm-haven't thought of any for this year.  I have only ever kept one resolution. 2002 I said I'd run a marathon and I did!  started running in January, ran a half marathon in May and the full in October. soooo, maybe just to get back into running or at the very least do something just for me each and every day!

k, so yesterday cole had 3 short naps.  don't get me started on WHY (DH rant in there).  Anyhoo, did pupd for bed, down at 7:30, woke at 8:40, 9:20 settled easily with a pat or two. Need report from DH because i went to bed at 10:30.  He mumbled this morning that he woke at 11 and 12 something but again settled easily...then he woke at 4:30.  I think this is another habitual waking...but i fed and he slept until 6:45!  YAY.   have to ask DH if he did Wake to sleep for the 12:20 waking as I asked him to.  we'll see and i'll let you know.  fought cole for first nap.  he seemed tired at the 2:30 mark, but didn't fall asleep until 3 hours of A time.  Seemed to need some camomilia too as the drool faucet was on this morning.  Do you los still seem to be in some pain after the tooth has cut through?  I always thought that was the worst part :?

okay, nap is about to end and I have to go to the nap board.  connection down again yesterday.

btw-holly is fine, her connection which is with the same company as me has been down for a WEEK!  she says hello and is dying to get caught up with everyone.

[Nikki~Nathan&Danielle]

Hugs Bec.  As Hayley and Traci have said, it is a phase and a REALLY frustrating one for everyone.  Traci put it well though and you'll all come out stronger in the end.

Traci spag bol is short for spaghetti bolognese which I think you may call spaghetti sauce?  It's just a tomato based sauce stirred through minced beef and served over the top of spaghetti.  I haven't been giving that to D yet though, but I think Nathan was getting it at this age.

Well my two slept through again!  And until after 6am!  I'm still trying to put my finger on it - I ruled out food issues for Nathan (was wondering if certain foods triggered restlessness, but over a month nothing seems to be the trigger), the only thing is that DH is home and Nathan's getting him during the day and therefore isn't craving him at night?  Also I gave both kids a remedy before bed the last two nights - Nathan had a sleeping remedy and Danielle a teething remedy.  :?

Traci, Danielle's activity times have really stretched out to 3-3.5hrs now and I was/am struggling to put her down for her normal naps times, so have pushed them out a bit.

[Colesmom]

thanks Nikki-after being up for 3 hours he had an 1:40 minute nap!  woo hoo! 

i will try stretch his A times for sure...

OH...spaghetti sauce!

[Erin M]

Hi girlies 

Bec - Don't worry at all about being frustrated and sharing it with us.  Sometimes I think it is so hard and overwhelming to always be responsible for another human being.  On some days when Katie is super clingy, I just want to tear my hair out in frustration.  Hope it gets better soon...and hope those wildfires stay away from you!

Judy - Hope you're feeling better - I remember strep being really painful, but the antibiotics work well....just remember to take ALL of them (thought you needed the reminder as you're not too keen on taking them in the first place!).  I'm not a huge fan of antibiotics either, but they work when you need them to - I had to be on antibiotics when I was about 8 months PG and I was none too happy about that. 

Hi Janet - feel free to lurk or post or whatever 

Naomi - Yay for Riley! 

Jody  :shock:  on all the movement in your house! 

Jo - welcome back!  Hope Frase gave you a chance to relax a bit at the beach.  Looking forward to hearing the full report!

Micky - ugh on the puking!  I hate cleaning up puke.  Katie choked on one of her Cheerios yesterday and threw up everywhere, including the pocket of her overalls!  I came home (DH was home with her at the time) and she was in her bouncer in a onesie.  Too funny!

Traci - I'm very impressed that you ran a marathon!  DH has done a couple.  Maybe Cole has another tooth working its way in after this one - Katie once got three teeth in about a week! (It was her 4th, 5th, and 6th teeth actually!)

Katie learned how to clap the other day (well, to clap the proper way - for months she was slapping her hand into her fist).  She's desperate to stand up, but hasn't quite gotten it figures out - I doubt she's that far away from it.  Actually, she figured it out in the bathtub  :shock:  so she's always trying to practice there  :roll:

OK ladies, is it just me, or are a bunch of us confused about food right now?  I feel like we've had lots of food questions pop up.  Katie still eats mainly jarred stuff, but I'd really like to change that.  Presently, we do this:
Breakfast: jarred fruit mixed with oatmeal/multigrain cereal.  After she eats that, I'll giver her some cheerios or fruit puffs and some cut up fruit if we have any around.

Lunch: some days I'll give her one of those jarred meat/veggie mixtures or jarred pasta or jarred rice and beans.  Some days she gets yogurt.  I also give her a jar of veggies with lunch, usually followed by some cheerios or something like that.

Dinner: Back to fruit and cereal and more veggies, sometimes some meat and veggies if she's had yogurt for lunch.  I'll also give her some of whatever we're eating (if it's not crap, as we've been living on lately) or yet some more cheerios. 

Nikki, it was really helpful to read what you do with Danielle - so, what does everyone else do?  Maybe by sharing our "food routines" we can help each other.  Incidentally, she still BFs morning and night, takes a couple of ounces of formula with her lunch and takes a good amount of formula 7-9 ounces about an hour before dinner.

Thanks ladies!

[Jayri]

K ladies, this ios not a vent, more of a concern.
I am getting worried about dh.
He is not huge for size, but he is not tiny either.
We have gone thru this for a while now, he goes good for a week but then gives in and doesn't care anymore.
But what brought this all to light for me was the fact that I bought some cheap cookies after the xmas sales etc, and they are nearly all gone. I had one out of one box, about four out of another, and now they are almost all gone. I even found a pack of the kids cookies by the computer today.
It has gotten to the point that we now do not buy anything that can be easily eaten, ie cookies, juice etc. he can chug a batch of juice made up like it is nothing. You know those frozen juices yuou can buy, well one of those when it is made up, in one sitting.
he can eat a 2liter tub of ice cream on a 24hr period.
I will say something to him, it needs to be done, but at the same time it is a reacurring topic and I feel like I ma nagging him about it.
He pick eats all day and into the night.......
I think the whole concept of loosing weight is lost. I will mention things to him, he agrees but then it goes away.
I know that this is only something that he can do for himself, but he grew up eating cakes and stuff like that on a very regular basis. He is eating healthier now than he ever has but I am thinking that that is all he feels he needs to do...
I dunno, I just wanted to let it out, it sucks just watching him eat all this stuff, and know it is not doing him any good.
Thanks for the shoulder girls......

[JKHH]

Thank you for the warm welcome.

It is hard to recap the past 8 months but I will try...

I received the BW as a shower gift when Kay was 3 weeks old. I started to follow the routine loosely but I was still doing a lot of accidental parenting to get Kay to sleep. When she turned 6 weeks old things really got out of hand and nothing worked. After two weeks of chaos we started a strict EASY routine with a nap and bedtime routine and we have never looked back! Kay immediately blossomed on a routine. She started taking regular naps and sleeping through the night.

Kay needed a TIGHT swaddle until she was over 4 months old. At every nap or bedtime she cried a ton…really hard...EVERY time I put her down to sleep. Sept 23 was the first day that she did not cry at every sleep time. It was such a great day! I felt like I had accomplished so much.

Now Kay is more textbook and a lot less spirited. Everyone thinks she is an angel baby...but like most BW moms I know it is because she has a great routine.

I went back to work in early November. I have a great job but it was hard to go back at first. The anticipation of leaving Kay was the worst part. She actually spent only one morning (with me there) at a daycare...and then I decided to find a new one. The school did not feel right to me. The sleep room was not dark and the teacher admitted to me that she normally is with kindergarten kids not babies...she did not respect my routine. So, two days back at work and I had to find a new school ASAP.

Luckily, the administrator at another school I visited was able to perform a miracle and Kay started immediately at another nursery school. It is a great place that is a Montessori school. I can see the classroom on an Internet feed if I want. I don't actually look at it...but the fact it is available tells me all I need to know.

For November and December Kay went to school part-time (that is what they had available) and my parents helped out a day a week, I “worked” from home (as much as I could) and my parents, my husband or I covered the other few days. I would not have asked my parents to do this in a million years…but desperate times call for desperate measures. I am pleased to say it worked out very well. It has been great for all of them to get to know each other better and for the three of them to form relationships. It is very special to see Kay’s face light up when she sees my Mom. FYI – my parents live out of town and drive 45 min to get to our house.

Kay starts school full-time tomorrow. But she will actually be there 4 days a week as I am still going to be home one day (plus I pick her up at 3:30 pm so she is only there 7 hrs a day).

So that is the recap…

In general, Kay has a very sweet disposition. She loves music and our dog (a beagle named Georgie Girl). She is sitting up quite a bit and is working on pulling herself up to the sitting position. She has been trying to scootch for a while but has not put it together.

Kay has been sick over the holiday and is better now but the cold/cough will not go away. Life at daycare I suspect. I suspect it is also part teething. No teeth yet…

My husband is very supportive. He is a typical man…makes lots of mistakes and seems to forget everything I tell him…but he has been very active in everything. He learned to put Kay to sleep which was not easy. There were some crazy moments along the way…and there will be more no doubt…but he tries really hard and does a good job. We have been together for 10 years married for almost 5.

I don’t get to check the website that much anymore…but I will try and stay plugged in.

FYI…on the food front I bought a cookbook by Annabel Karmel I think that is her name… and I made lots of food over the holiday. Some of the recipes are really easy and a little cooking makes a lot of food. I am not a fan of the jarred food so I hope I will be able to keep making my own. 

Sorry for the long post…

[kq]

Welcome Janet and Kay. Your introduction was lovely and it sounds like Kay is thriving! Too cute that she goes to "school"!

Naomi, no advice there as dh is a fitness freak and will not let junk into "his temple". Actually, what I do is I have no junk food in this house and I make snacks that are healthy ie with dried fruit, muffins with olive oil etc.

Bec <<<HUGS>>>. Everything Hayley said...Sam gets clingy when I have been at work more hours than usual and those days, I let everything go and I put him in the sling and carry him round when I do simple chores. I cannot imagine all day everyday though, sorry! Is she good with dh? Do you think that once a day you could get out for a walk or do something for yourself...like Traci says?

Judy, thanks for that, will have to hit up the local Health Store.

Yay for Katie clapping, Erin!

Hope you had a good time away, Jo. Can't wait to hear about it and see pics.

Nikki, LOL on the "bloody fly" and the dh hair do...that is sooo sweet!! Hurray on the sleep!

Erin, food routine...
In the morning, Sam has a BF first thing. I then give him cereal with formula and fruit in it. He sometimes also gets a piece of fruit-banana, pear but not choky apple!

Midmorning, he has a bottle of formula and about 11 or 12, he has lunch which is either rice porridge, pasta, couscous or veges. He sometimes gets a piece of toast as well.

3 pm, Sam still has a full bottle. This is usually followed by something to chew on like a piece of fruit or some biscotti or a cracker.

5-5.30 pm, Sam is usually ravenous and will eat dinner, usually a mixture of meat, veges and a starch or just meat and veges. He usually has desert as well which is either fruit or some custard.

7pm, BF before bed.

Both his bottles are about 5-8 oz. Like Nikki, I make all my own food and only occasionally give him a jar so he does not get bored with my cooking. I still cannot give him purely finger food as he then chases me round the kitchen begging for food.

Another food question, does anyone else give their los little snacks when they are out even when it is not time for food? I don't want to encourage snacking but lately, we have had a lot of family visiting and we go out for lunch mainly or a BBQ in the afternoon. Sometimes I give Sam his lunch at home and when we get to the restaurant, I give him something more, usually I order something I know he can have and give him a bit. He loves it as I think he feels like he is in on the action! I sort of think this is important to promote eating as a social exercise but am I turning him into a snacker? I guess this does not happen enough to worry...hmmm.

Sorry this was sooo long.
Karen

[kq]

Oh, I have also just bought the Annabel Karmel book and am on holiday this week so have been cooking up a storm!

[Little Bear's Mum]

Morning ladies.

Janet & Kay, nice to hear about you and your family, it sounds like everything is going really well for you. Join in whenever you can.

Erin, thanks for your food routine and suggesting we share.

Traci, yay for Cole's sleep. FYI Daniel is awake 3 hours from when he first wakes for the day to first nap. Then 3.5h for the next awake time. Mostly now he sleeps 1.5h each nap. This makes his naps a lot later, 9.30am for first and he doesn't go down until 2.30pm for his 2nd nap. Waking around 4pm. He goes to sleep for the night at 7pm.

I'm going to try pureed kumara and apple for lunch today, and some cheese on toast too. Here's hoping it works. I'll keep you posted.

Naomi, the only thing I can suggest is not having them in the house. Perhaps if he comments that you don't buy snacks anymore, if you don't feel like making an issue of it, can you say you would prefer not having them in the house as you don't want the kids learning that it's ok to eat those sort of snacks all the time. After all, they copy us don't they? We stopped buying coke and fizzy for that reason. Although DH does have Lift (lemon fizzy drink) with fish and chips on Friday night.  Or are you wanting to loose any weight personally? Perhaps you could start a new eating/fitness regime and encourage him to do it to as this will help keep you positive and on the right track.

[Carter'sMama]

Hello everyone!  We have been experiencing short naps here again which is pretty frustrating.  I know he is capable of hour and a half long naps but his afternoon nap has only been 30-45 mins lately and he wakes up tired.  Last night was the first night in about 5 days that he actually slept through again.  I'm not trying to be a pain in the butt or complaining but when your baby has slept through the night for over 5 months straight then you being to wonder why he isn't all of a sudden. 

Dh has been home from work (on vacation) for almost 2 weeks now and today he comes up to me and says "man, I'm babied out!!".  I'm thinking, it's only been 2 weeks ... try doing it every day for 9 months!!!  Then he proceeds to rub my shoulders and says "Now I know what you go through every day.  I guess you don't sit at home on the computer all day!"  :shock:   :roll:   I'm sure he will only remember what it feels like for a few weeks and then it'll be back to normal. Meaning him taking everything for granted again!!!  Oh well ... atleast he understands for now!!

Janet:  Welcome and thanks for the advice on the allergy formulas.  I am going to call my ped again and see what else he recommends too.

Traci:  When Carter is teething he seems in more pain once the tooth is through.  I thought it was weird myself.  I guess as it all comes through is quite painful too. 

Bec: Carter is extremely whiny these days.  I can't leave the room, esp at nap/bed times.  I am very glad that DH is around these last few days or I would have gone crazy!!  I do get very upset when he is always crying or won't sleep etc.  I act like the world is ending and have feelings of being very destructive.  I just try and breathe and relax (hard to do) and then tell myself to get over it  :roll:   

Judy:  I hope you feel better soon!  I absolutely HATE going on antibiotics! I had to while pregnant because I came into contact with a dog at my work that had leptospirosis (causes abortion in humans if exposed) and again when Carter was 2 weeks old because of mastitis.  I am very bad at not taking teh full prescription as well!!

Erin:  As for food ... I mainly make my own so far and only give him bland things.  He just started finger foods and I haven't added spices or anything to any of his foods.  I guess I am afraid because of his allergies (surprisingly a lot of baby foods do have milk powder or cream in them). It's something like this:
Wake-up: BF then one hour later ...
Breakfast: Cereal (oatmeal, barley or mixed) with spinach cube mixed in and then fruit (usually mango, kiwi, or banana)
Wake-up from nap: BF then hour and a half later ...
Lunch: Jarred meat combo and then either fruit (apple or pear cube) or veggie (usually carrot, green bean or pea cube).  Then Farley or arrowroot cookie.

Dinner (5:30-6:00): Usually jarred sweet potatoes, mixed veggies or veggie cube  and fruit (jarred mix like apple/mango/kiwi or prunes etc) then Nutrios or cookie.

Cereal before bed then BF.

I am reluctant to give him our food because I never know what is in everything ... like what are other names for eggs or milk.  So I stick to straight veggies and fruits etc.  I know ... we're boring!  Carter doesn't do so well on really chunky stuff either.  He likes to fill his mouth (think whole cookies at once) and then he chokes  :roll:   We have to watch him very carefully. Plus he likes purees ALOT!!

Anyway, company just came over.  They have a one month old and a 3 year old who goes to bed around midnight- 1:00am and still sleeps in their bed  :shock:  :shock:   I told her about the baby whisperer but she thinks that kids will do what they want no matter what and that you can't change them  :shock:  :shock:

Happy New Year ladies!!!

[Olivia's Mommy]

OK, girls, I am finally back. I've spent the last 2 days trying to get caught up on all i missed, but when I realized a new thread was started and I was already 12 pages behind, I thought, forget it!!! So I'm glad everyone had a nice holiday who did...for those who didn't, I'm sorry--just think it's a new year and a fresh start.

Now, before I take my own advice...here's how our trip went. (Warning: Some ranting ahead) Liv did FABULOUS on the 10-hour trip. She was a trooper--she took pretty regular naps in the car, sang and played when she was awake, and generally did great...for 9.5 hours each way. Then she had a melt-down (both there and back) I figured she was entitled to it. She was a hit at my parents and at the ILs. She did pretty well with the new faces and loved "playing with" her cousins. HOWEVER, from the first night, she started waking SEVERAL times...and it's still going on. At first I thought it was just the new surroundings, all the excitement, etc. Then she started scooting and waving, so I thought it was developmental. But it got worse. Then I noticed she had 2 more teeth coming through. But it still got worse, and the teeth were all the way in. The first night she woke 2-3 times. By the next-to-last night, she was waking every 30 minutes all night long!!! DH and I are so exausted!! Between being up with her all night and trying to visit all day...we're worn out!! (We tried to take naps, but we had traveled so far to see everyone, we felt bad sleeping while they were all doing stuff.)

Things got so bad, we ended up cancelling the last leg of our trip. We had tickets to the KC/Cincinnati football game on New Year's Day. (DH and I are both KC fans.) We were supposed to drive to KC New Year's Eve and stay with my grandma (who was going to watch Liv while we went to the game). But we had NO sleep all week long and DH and Liv were starting to get sick. So Sat morning we decided to give the tickets to DH's brother and just go home. Liv did well Sat night in her own bed. Woke several times, but was able to settle herself. I didn't have to go in to her until 7am (although I woke up several times, but didn't have to go to her). Last night, however, was the WORST so far. We put her down at 7:00 (did regular routine). She woke at 8:00 and DH had to settle her. She finally went back to sleep about 8:45. THen woke again at 2:30 and was up till 4:00. I reached the point again last night (for the 2nd or 3rd time this week) where I just had to get DH to take her and I laid and bed and cried b/c I was so tired, I have no idea what's wrong with her (she's no longer sick, wasn't hungry, didnt' need changing...just awake), and I see no end in sight!!! I'm so completely tired, I've eaten nothing but junk and I haven't worked out in almost 2 weeks (that's usually what keeps my sanity), so feeling like a big, fat, tired slob!!! Sorry to just dump it all on you, but I think it's reaching a boiling point today b/c DH goes back to work tomorrow and I see no end in sight. (you know you're addicted when you can't wait to get home to gripe to all your BW friends about what's going on!)

Other than all the sleep deprivation, our holiday went well. We had a good time visiting family, Liv got a TON of great presents, and they all loved Liv...although I don't think they believe that she usually sleeps from 7:30 to 7:30 at home without waking!! I kept getting comments like "Do you think you're putting her to bed too early?" (after putting her down an hour past regular bedtime!) or (from my LOUD BIL), "That's so weird that she can't sleep through stuff..." (like his yelling right outside the door to her room) "...when [DS] was a baby, we just kept things loud and he learned to sleep right through it." I did give my sis the BW book for Xmas. She's expecting their 2nd LO in April, so we'll see if things change this time.

Well, I have a theory on all these wakings...I think it might be separation anxiety?! I noticed some of you were already talkign about that. I've noticed she's WAAAY more clingy during the day, and I read in BWSAYP that it can carry over into night wakings. Any one experiencing that? (TRACI, I couldn't remember if you ever figured out what was causing Cole's wakings...could be SA?) If so, anyone have any advice?

Well, hate to vent and run, but there are Christmas decorations to be taken down and groceries to be bought. I really did miss you girls...I'm glad to be back. I tried to get online once at my parents, but couldn't find enough alone time to do so. Sorry for the "downer" post...thanks for listening. You girls rock!

I'll post some pics of our holiday later...loved looking at all yours!