March/April '05 Thread #4

[solnme]

15 minutes into the pm nap!  Shhhhhhh, don't jinx it.

Traci - yes that was me doing the back out of the room thing.  I only reassure Sol when I'm beside the crib and when I start moving don't talk anymore.  By that time he is calm(ing) or playing .  If he does start up again I move a little bit closer but don't speak since my voice seems to fuel his fire.  He usually settles within 5/6 minutes but if he starts wailing I go back, do PD and start all over again.

Judy - I'm glad this episode of 'In the life of' worked itself out.   :wink: I love the play by play. Looking forward to your response to Nikki's question.

Sol just woke up.  He's been crying for about 2 mins and is winding himself down.  Don't go in, don't go in...

Richelle - we've got a true BE fan.  Sol couldn't take his eyes off it and talked to the characters through the whole tape.  I got stuff done and he had a blast.  I think once a day will be no problem at all.

macaire - I don't really have a part time option.  We made an offer on a house last week and got it!  Now I'm stressing about the mortgage.  I'll make more money running a Family Childcare out of the house than going back to my teaching job part time.

Micky - OMG you kill me!

Still crying.  Dang, I knew I was going to jinx it.  Why can't he get past this 20 minute mark?  Did anyone have any success with Wake to Sleep?

[sophieandhannah]

OMG ladies....I was trying soooo hard to catch up with the ten or so pages I missed but I am basically out of time and have to go pick up the lo.  I will go back and read later.  It's not so much that I feel obligated...I just don't want to miss anything!!!

Thanks for the shouts out!!

You know you are addicted to BW when you keep thinking about the thread 24/7 when you can't get on to read and say hello. 

Had kind of a crazy start to the week...Tuesday am, alarm didn't go off...which sort of made everything spiral out of control for a few days...weird how 30 minyutes or so can make such a huge back up...
Ugh...my life is like bad traffic on I-5...how's that for a realization.

Then, Tuesday night, dh says..."you need to take a break from BW for a night"  Like it's HARD or something...it's like my spa time   He just doesn't get it...

Anyhow, I did..he obviously needed a little time...uh oh phone...brb

So anyhow, last night I got caught up with laundry dishes etc etc...and got to bed on time so that I could get up to go running before work this morning...

I am a 5amer too!!!
So tonight I said screw work for a minute.  I am BWing before I go home
More from me later...just lovin' you ladies from afar for now at least....you know I'll be in the chat tomorrow. 
Hannah

[Erin M]

hi Hannah - nice to hear from you - hate it when the alarm doesn't go off

Judy - cheesy toast = I put a piece of cheese on a piece of wheat bread, stick it under the broiler, and take it out when the cheese is melted - Micky, I'm guessing, forgot about it until the cheese was WAY past being melted -- sorry you don't like your ped - the one in the practice that I love did the following for her 9 month checkup - weighed, measured, etc - handed her back to me so she was on my lap and then proceeded to kneel on the floor so he was eye level with Katie and do his entire exam, chatted for a bit about milestones, encouraged continued BFing (we all know I need all the encouragement I can get) and we were done

Micky - I say Katie has 3 milk feeds (2 BF + 1 bottle) and 3 solid meals  a day.

Nancy - YAY (anti-jinx vibe)

Roz - YAY on the house!!!!  So exciting!!!! 

Andrea - I hate buying things like pregnancy tests, condoms, etc -- I feel your pain there...

Have to run - unhappy, poopy, tired baby

[mickymuscles]

Yeah Hannah!  It's good to hear from you!  You are crazy getting up at 5am!! :shock:   I went on my treadmill today for the first time since about August!  I only lasted about 15 mins.  :lol:   

Anyways....I'm really not THAT bad of a cook I just always seem to forget that I have something cooking...hence the burning!    :lol:   I'm lucky I remembered I put some sweet potato in the oven to roast...it was in there for an hour  :shock:  :roll:   but it will be just right for Jack...NO, it's not burnt, I did remember to brush it with some olive oil before I stuck it in the oven.  :roll:  :lol:

[mickymuscles]

oh yeah !

Andrea: I hate buying condoms too....always a bit embarressed....i feel like they are thinking "Oh, someones gettin' some tonight!!" or that they are going to phone my parents and tell on me!  :roll:  :lol:

[kq]

ROTFLMAO Micky!!!! Too funny!!! On the other hand, if you don't want to change poopy nappies for a week.... :wink:

Bec, what's an electrical phobia? Do you only have candles in your house? Do you not do toasters and kettles? You obviously do computers!!!

I will post on the baby recipe site if you like but it was basically recipes for Hayley to try with Daniel, lots of different ideas. They are mainly from Annabel Karmel as her recipes are the best! I had people for dinner that night and made one of her pasta recipes. I read recipe books for fun so I have a stack of them and like Richelle, I love cooking. It relaxes me and I can switch my brain off...

Welcome back, Hannah! Missed you.

Oh and peds who are not interested in children should not be peds!!! Children are my favourite patients! 
LMAO at PAF, never heard of it Macaire!!! I almost fell off my chair!

Andrea, I have had AF back for 4 months and they are all over the show..cycles vary from 28 days to 35 days! On the plus side, has done wonders for my PMT...I don't get any.

Congratulations on the house, Roz!! I would send Sam to your home childcare.

Hayley, I think you may have fueled Bec's electrical phobia with your microwave story!  

Sam has wholemeal toast from bread I make in the breadmaker. He has it with no spread as I find the vegemite to salty plus it smears EVERYWHERE!! No white bread here.

Thanks for all the advice on BF. I figured out the problem. One of my boobs does not work. It is the one I offer first at bedtime and there is just nothing there! Worked it out last night as I offered a bottle instead and my right boob was sooo hard and leaking this morning and the other one...nada. What do I do now? Might go ask Annamum. Maybe need to pump but no readon why it would suddenly go on strike. Sam has always double side fed. Any ideas BFers out there.

Naomi, got your card today but it was addressed to Holly and Brady. I knew it was meant for me, I hope!

You are all too kind on the moderating but with work and this site, I just don't get time. Wish I could help though!

Did anyone want me to post recipes on the Baby recipe site? I have PM'ed Micky and Erin the recipes I gave Hayley.

[Judy]

Thanks Erin for the cheesy toast info.  In my mind that is what cheesy toast was but when Micky sad she burnt it - I like Bec - kinda worried that she put it in the sideways toaster. There was a gal on here a few years back now who asked for help making grilled cheese - she was putting cheese between 2 pcs of bread and then putting them in the toaster (not toaster OVEN, toaster) and couldn't figure out how to do it without getting cheese IN the toaster.  I didn't even reply b/c I kinda figured all hope was lost for her. :lol:

Nikki - I know how you feel.  You feel so bad for the little girl, and from the outside looking in you can SEE there's not learning there anyway.  And if it were Nathan doing it - Oh gosh I so know what you mean... the approach we'd take is NOT what other's are looking for.  I have a friend who gets together with another friend and her friend's 2yr old boy hits her (my friend's) 2yr old.  My friend is always telling me how he beats on her dd, how he doesn't say sorry and he's just plain BAD and that his mom says he's bad and doesn't know what to do.  So I try to kinda say small things like "I think it's common to assume they are being mean when really they aren't, afterall hitting a table makes noise, hitting a cup of water makes a splash and hitting another kid makes a smack and a cry"  It's just sounds and learning and such for little ones.  But I know she expects a timeout be given and demands for apology. I agree with your thinking that you would model it FOR them and if they chose to apologise too great but if not so be it - they've seen it and will figure it out someday.  I know if it were ME, being caught doing something I didn't necessarily intend (hurting someone) and being confronted in front of others, no matter how nicely I likely wouldn't WANT to apologise or even BREATH for 10minutes.  I'd just want to sink away and not be noticed, so how nice if my mom did all the work for me and still hugged me and loved me.  BUT I doubt that would win points in the short term from other moms.  It's hard because you DO worry what other's think of you because that DOES reflect what they think of your children.  Let's hope we're never in that situation (dream on right

I'm so glad today is over with... good sleep hopefully and tomorrow will be a better day.  My MIL is coming for a visit - I used to not look forward to those days.  Before Zoe my MIL & I got on great.  I'd call her just to chat and vice versa - if Chris answered she'd ask for me   Then after Zoe came I was VERY possessive and annoyed by her comments that she wanted to take Zoe home with her or she was HER dolly etc. etc.. but I've now seem to have gotten past all that and she is a great source of help to me.  As I've said, life can be insane and she's chuckling and relaxed. 

Coulda used that today...

Ok so back to cooking.... I used to be a really good cook but since having kids I get so distracted and often forget things are cooking and burn a lot of things.  DH often says "your cooking just isn't what it used to be" :roll: but he's right.  I set a timer most of the time now whenever I'm cooking.

Someone tell me how this happens... 1.5hrs ago Sarah was so tired she was yawning, crying every time she tripped which was a lot because she was so tired, barely could stay awake.  So we quick get supper in her and now she's wandering the house singing Dora chants while dh is reading stories to Zoe in their room (she's escaped)   Oy!!  I really think I should just go to town for a coffee

[Colesmom]

okay, no time right now to read but I have to post Qs for Holly as she still can't get online.

Her DH has offered to do some bedtimes and wakings until 10pm. He just can't do middle of the night wakings because his job is very physically demanding.  Anyhoo-would it be confusing for Brady do have DH do bed and some wakings and then Holly do the rest?  I know Tracy says to switch off two days at a time, but maybe that's just at the very start of pupd and doesn't really matter now.

Holly's having a rough go lately. got about 1 hours sleep last night and she really really misses us.  she's supposed to get a new modem in the mail today, so we'll see if she's back soon.

there was another Q from her...dang, i can't remember.  OH YA...Michelle or anyone else.  When Molly gets her ear infections she just screams for a long time, right?  Brady apparently was screaming from something like 10pm-4am last night.  He just got over a cold.  Should she go to the ped?  sounds like ears to me.

took 30 min. to get cole down tonight BUT only about 3 minutes of that was crying.  He settled 3 times but popped back up at the 8 minute mark.  went to sleep at 7:30 so we'll see how it goes...oh-and I didn't hold his hand.  YAY!

hoping to be back later but DH needs the desk

[Erin M]

OK, baby has  been bathed, PJed, and fed and is now (hopefully) on her way off to dreamland...

Judy - was rereading my last post and I totally lost my point - what I meant to say is that I do love my ped and I'm sad that since we'll probably be moving this summer I'll have to look for a new one and hate to be reminded at how many yucky ones there are out there.

Andrea - I was going to add, I always try to go through self checkout lanes when I buy stuff like that, as otherwise it is usually some 17 year old boy ringing up my purchases which makes it even worse.

Traci - not sure about PU/PD and different people - post on the forum maybe?  I personally don't think it would make a hugs difference, but you never know.  As for ear infections - my ped said to watch for if they're more comfortable laying at an incline (like in an infant seat) instead of laying flat as their ears drain when they're flat - also crying while nursing/drinking from a bottle, and the obvious one - crying while pulling at his ears.  When Katie had her ear infections, we could also see some drainage from her ears.  My God, if he's up for 6 hours straight I would think it was to be SOMETHING requiring a ped's attention.  Send her some ((hugs)) from us please!
Hooray for Cole going down well!

Karen - thanks for the recipes - been thinking of getting that book so it's nice to have a preview of sorts.  I have no clue about your non-working boob.  Maybe your best bet would be to post on the BFing forum as the ladies there always seem most helpful and knowledgeable.  Or look on kellymom.com as I notice that being a reference they cite frequently. 

Anyway, my sister was her today with my nephews (2.5 years and almost 1 year).  My older nephew is pretty much the definition of spirited and being in our house with all the toys had him all wound up - which translates in him to aggression usually - so he kept pushing, hitting his brother - it's so hard for my sister when he gets like that - she's always full of the "if you don't stop, we're going home" sort of thing, but she does try to help him understand that what he's doing hurts the baby, she'll try and remove him so they can chat about it in a different environment that's less stimulating and she's super good at reinforcing his positive behavior - I never know what I would do in her situation, but with all our discipline talk I do find myself thinking about it more and more.

Ok, enough rambling....have a pleasant day/night all!

[Jayri]

karen, sorry about that, it was for you but boy, it is like I have no brain anymore......
I have gotten Jayson's recent sniffle, hit me like a tonne of bricks, not bad going seems I have missed the last few he has had.
I am not going to be too long as I need to crash so I can get some sorta rest tonight....one more day till the weekend.
I completely out of whack with everyone, things have been moving along so fast lately.
Karen I apologise again for the mess up with the cards, I must have gooten way off of track as that night I had about 30 cards to do.....
OOOO OOOOOO, so this little miss of mine has all of a sudden developed a very cheeky sude to her in the past little bit, so I put her in bed, she is awake, no fuss so I just left her, about 10mins later when she does atart to fuss, I go in and find her at the end of her crib.........STANDING UP HOLDING ONTO THE RAIL.......WTH........she only just mastered her turtle paced crawl last week.....
I will talk to you fine ladies on our chat tomorrow, is it then or am I completely out of whack here........
Take Care you hotties!!!!!!

[Nikki~Nathan&Danielle]

Erin, I've come to the conclusion that I'd deal with toddler agression differently if it was with another child vs a sibling - because to me there is a totally different thought process going on.  Haven't really got there yet though, Nathan's not aggressive with others at all, and not even with Danielle but will occasionally give her a little push or something, but not aggresively.  Like Judy said, I just hope I'm not faced with that one anytime soon (yeah right!).

Traci, I'm not sure about pu/pd either, but in my experience, because Nathan's always had DH respond during the night he doesn't like me going in there (yet I'm ok doing any before 10pm).  I think it could set up expectations of it only being done one way, so maybe her DH do it for 2 early evenings running and then Holly do the 3rd.

I think 6hrs straight of crying is a cause for concern too.

Judy, I remember hearing that story about the cheesy toast! :lol:   And thanks as always for your insight on the UP.  It is nice to be able to have the daily chit chat with someone else on the same wavelength.  And it is SO nice when Nathan does come out with a Sorry, Thank You or Please on his own, he's no further behind his peers on when he started doing it spontaneously (he just doesn't do it all the time and most times I model it back to him on his behalf).  The best thing is knowing that he actually feels that way.  Today I gave him some sort of food that I know he really likes and he didn't ask for it, and seeing the joy and the response was just lovely.  I know at some point we all do the curtesy thing because "that's what we do", but badgering the politeness into him is just making him say words and not actually feel it anyway.

Good to hear that MIL's visit is looked forward to - my MIL hasn't even mentioned coming to visit and MEET Danielle yet!  :roll:  Heck, it's easier for her to travel the 1HR flight than us DRIVE 10hrs!! :twisted:

Karen, did you post those recipes, over to check it out.  The ped that Nathan saw for his coeliac didn't seem to like kids either - weird!  He had no respect for him, whipped him up off the floor, pulled his pants down, lifted legs, had a poke and prod WITHOUT warning or chatting to him.  :x  I tell ya, if I was paying for him I wouldn't go back, but he was my referral.

[kate585]

Must dash as dh needs the computer for work.  (What is it with these guys?   Don't they know we need access 24/7?   :roll: ) 

LMAO at Micky's toast.  I, too, thought you did it in that white toaster.  Must admit when you all first started talking about cheesy toast, I thought about my toaster, then quickly realized that was wrong.   :oops:   Never tried it, though.   :?:   After you cook it, do you still cut it into long, thin strips?  What about crust?  That's what I've been doing with toast.  Whole grain wheat, by the way.  Not crunchy, but it says whole grain, so I figure that's cool. 

Traci, I'd say Holly should call the ped. for sure.  Yikes!  6 hours!  I bet she needs a whole boatload of cyber (((hugs))).  Can't wait to get her back!  And, I think her dh should do some of the night wakings.  I think it's more a problem if she is in the middle of one and then dh comes to releave her.  You have to start all over again.  But, if they are taking separate wake ups, we have had no problem doing that.  HTH

Karen, that's weird about the boob strike.  I've heard of babies going on strike, but not boobs.  Go to the BF forum, for sure.  They know their stuff over there!

Judy, I say go get that coffee in town tomorrow while MIL is there.  Imagine the aroma of the shop and the blissful quiet of the cappuccino machine.  Ahhhhhh!  You deserve it, girl!

Naomi, hope you are feeling better and yeah for Miss Riley. What progress!

Andrea,  :lol: at your list.  That'll be me in a few weeks.  I like Erin's idea of self-checkout.  I'll mentally file that one. 

We had a great day with naps.  Ryan stirred after 45 mins. of Nap 2 but then went on to sleep for 2 hours!  I guess the longer A time worked.  (I had kept him up licking light bulbs, in case you missed it).   Moral of the story:  Let your kids eat garbage and they'll sleep.  No, the real lesson for me is boredom cues can seem like sleepy cues, so make sure it's not the first. 

Okay, I hear dh coming up here.  Must go for real.
Lots of love and hugs to you all!!!

[albertasweetpea]

Judy - just mentioning to DH how you manage to BF both girls and type on the computer at the same time. He'd like to see a picture of that!! LMAO!  I just laugh my head off at most of your posts...your sense of humor cheers me up on even my darkest of days - Thanks!!    :lol:

Micky!!! OMG girl!!! You wanna come over and I can show you how to use a toaster?? ROFLMAO!!   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Macaire - I've never heard of a FAP (too funny) but the term I have heard from guys around the office is GUNT. It is the fat between your "gut" and your "____" (hate that word, it is truly vile, I cannot even say THAT word). Men are sick though.   :wink:

Roz - we too have recently introduced BE and Molly loves it! We only have the one about seasons...but it is so bright and colorful I'm sure she'll be addicted soon!! Everything in moderation I always say.

Andrea/Micky - LOL at the condom buying discussion. I don't mind the actual purchasing of them, it's the standing in the middle of the aisle trying to read all the brands, check for sizing (LOL), check the pricing (make sure I'm getting my money's worth!), compare lubricated/non lubricated/ribbed/non-ribbed etc... that really gets to me! Can't they just make one kind and be done with it. Same with feminine hygiene products!! Really, do we need 10 different brands, sizes, colors and smells to choose from??  :shock:

Holly via Traci - yes, get Brady to the doctor!! Poor little guy, those ear infections are brutal! It is apparently also worse at night/nap times as they are laying down and the pressure is pressing on their ear canal?  It is so hard to get in to see my pediatrician here that I end up taking Molly to a walk in clinic just to make sure it is an infection, get the antibiotics started so that she gets some relief. Then we end up see the pediatrician a week later. Switching over to my family Dr. for Molly anyhow I think. It's crazy that you have to wait a week to see a Dr. when your child is sick!!   :twisted:


All this talk of what everyone is feeding their LO and Molly is still only on pureed foods!!  She has NO TEETH so I am scared to give her toast or chunkier foods for fear of her choking. Any suggestions?? Or should I go ahead and give her toast etc...and just watch her carefully?? or wait until some teeth come?? I read where Traci mentioned about babies that aren't given chunkier textures by 9 months develop bad gag reflexes?? Help from anyone with toothless wee ones...??

[Colesmom]

thanks for the input for Holly girls.  I'll call her tomorrow.  Just tried to call and she's in bed (9pm) so good for her.  I do know her MIL came over today and she went to chiropractor and massage therapist. 

Moral of the story: Let your kids eat garbage and they'll sleep. No, the real lesson for me is boredom cues can seem like sleepy cues, so make sure it's not the first. 

LOL-totally agree-cole was yawning/rubbing eyes after 2.5 hours of A time this afternoon...if i were home i might have put him down by mistake!  gosh-makes me wonder how long cole has been ready to go longer??

so girlies...it's been nearly two hours asleep and I've heard some shifting around but no real noise.    i'm heading to bed now just in case it's a tough one tonight.  I'll let you all know how it goes in the morning.

little rant-DH is still not reading(he's watching tv), then he'll stay up until 1am  and then say he's too tired to take cole in the morning :evil:

[Nikki~Nathan&Danielle]

Michelle, Danielle still has no teeth either.  I kind of figure even if she had a few front teeth it's not like they chew up food with them, she still manages to take bites of with her gums and then gums up the rest.  Start with super soft things to get your confidence (avocado, pumpkin, brocolli) and you'll see how she figures it out.

Gotta go, Nathan's woken up from his nap.