TMI Gas and poop question

[Jennifer2e]

Grayson (3.5 mo) is soooooooooooo gassy.  ALL the time.  And it smells TERRIBLE.  It dosen't seem to bother him at all. (only us )  So is this normal?  I'm worried because I want to be sure he isn't allergic to something I'm eating.  He is also starting to have a thicker BM.  It used to be yellow and pretty thin.  Now it is like yellow paste.  I know gross but I just want to be sure it is okay.  Again he dosen't seem upset at all.  TIA

oh and he is EBF (yeah me )

[GraceKellysmom]

Woohooo you're nursing!!!!

I remember the bms getting a lot thicker 3-6 months. Pretty nasty, huh? My sis has a lo 11 weeks and she says the gas is awful too, waking her dd up from naps and nighttime. They just eat so darn fast and on/off, sucking in air too.

[Jennifer2e]

oh yeah!  Sounds normal then   And the gas smells bad?  I guess i assumed his little toots were gonna be scent free   Since he is EBF.  And his poop used to smell sweet    Now it dosen't smell like a forumla fed baby but not like in the beginning.  Is my little sweet pea just getting older

[webfoot]

I'm so excited for you that you are still going strong on bf!

Totally normal. WithEvan dh was forever saying he smells so bad you need to change him and I'd look and nothing was in there. And they do start to thicken their stools after the first bit, but you shouldn't get really solid stools until they start eating a lot of solid food.

Are you enjoying it? I have to admit I am enjoying it finally... third time is the charm.

[Kayna]

Yup, dd have terribly stinky toots. I always wondered if it had something to do with a dairy free diet? Maybe not.

[GraceKellysmom]

Kayna, that is a honest thing to ponder.

Jennifer, is he taking anything other than bm, like Mylicon or reflux meds? That may make a stink. Our Prevacid was wonderful but boy did the poop stink.

[Jennifer2e]

Yes, Prevacid!  That could be it.

Also, I found out I have an allergy to sugar   So now that I have cut WAY back things have greatly improved with his gas.  Wierd huh?

[Cassie]

Jennifer and Stacy - are both of your kids on Previcid?  Palmer is on Pepcid and I am wondering if it is really working?  We are seeing a GI doctor on Tuesday so I want to be prepared to ask about different medications.  I know that Previcid and Prilosec are usually the second line of defense... did you guys try Pepcid/Zantac first?? 

I am also doing the dairy free/soy free diet... but question if they is really it.  No blood was found in his stool.  It seems like everything I eat effects him... garlic, tomato products, oj, soda, UGH... I should be skinny by now!!!

Sometimes he pulls off by breast and just screams... it makes me want to cry.

[Jennifer2e]

Hi Cassie!  We tried Zantac first with no success.  We switched to Prevacid and it has been great.  I actually started to wonder if he needed meds at all so I stopped Prevacid and he started throwing up again.  So he still needs it.  Wow dairy AND soy free.  It is hard enough for me to do dairy free.  Another thing I avoid is beef.  It is similar to cows milk.  I limit chocolate and drink NO dark soda.  I think anything with acid can affect them.  Let us know how the GI visit goes.

[GraceKellysmom]

We went straight to Prevacid, had a great doctor. I tried to wean him several times off it, and finally did successfully at 9 months. I think we always question "is it my diet, is it really reflux, is it just his age" etc. The Prevacid is not super easy(although not too hard) to administer unless your insurance will pay for a compounding pharmacy. It comes in a powder that you mix with a little water and give immediately with a little syringe.

What I found out many months later is that it is me with the soy intolerance. My body's reaction to the soy may have been what caused so many of our problems.

Cassie, just get him to where he is feeling better. Then add back either soy or milk and see how he does. The Prevacid takes a little bit to work, but wow what a different baby I had. He slept so much better and I did too, makes life so much easier to deal with!

[Cassie]

I have been dairy and soy free for over 3 weeks, so I added back regular bread last week.  He seemed fine.  So Friday night I had one very small piece of pizza.  He seemed fine.  Sat night I went to a party and ate a few things with cheese.  He seemed fine.  Now Sunday dh taked me into getting a Wendy's hamburger and fries.  Last night Palmer was up at 1:30am, 3:30am and 6am.. very very uncomfortable.  Note that he has been sleeping through the night (one wake up at 4ish and he has even slept until 7am!) since 4 weeks or so.  It is daytime sleep and fussiness we have issues with.  Plus he must sleep propped like he is in a chair.

So now I wonder if it is dairy.  Maybe it is just soy.  I need to look at the Wendy's website to see if they use soybean oil or soy in their burgers.  Or maybe he just didn't have an immediate reaction to the dairy.  Or maybe it is something else entirely.  UGH.

Oh yeah.. the most upseting thing is that night last he started nursing horribly.  He is so frantic and squirmmy that it is like a wrestling match.  My nipples are killing me.  He has to be uncomfortable in some way as he usually nurses fairly well.

Thanks for responding!!!

[GraceKellysmom]

Cassie, isn't it frustrating! Anything else that it could have been, were his naps too short yesterday so he was overtired?

I found that the reaction time was usually 6-48 hrs for food. I'm not sure on the Wendy's burgers. I would guess something in the buns if anything. I'm soy intolerant but tolerate Wendy's burgers just fine. 

[Cassie]

I just don't know what to do with him really.  We had a GI appt on Wed and she switched him to Prevacid and Carafate.  We only switched him because of this new struggle with nursing as besides that he has been doing fairly well.  So we have been on it for 2 days and the nursing is getting worse.  Tonight he refuse to eat.  So let him fall asleep and then nursed him.  I have just never experience this refusal to eat thing.  Duncan would eat anything placed in his mouth (and puke half of it up:)!

Also Stacey I think I remember you saying that you dissolved the pills in water?  We got ours made into a liquid; however, I am struggling to get him to take it.  No matter what I do he ends up spitting half of it out.  I found a pharmacy that will flavor it, but I can't switch the prescription until next month. 

Jennifer was yours liquid?  If so, how did you get your lo to take it??

UGH.

[Stacie:Emma&Josh Mom]

We used Prilosec which is similar to Prevacid.  And we had it as a flavored liquid.  Dd got used to it and near the end was sucking it out of the syringe so persistence paid off.  I'd give a little bit in the very back of his mouth at a time, far enough back that he almost has to swallow it.  And if you find that he has trouble with the first flavor you try, try another one.     Dd got used to the flavor we usually had and then the pharmacy switched it one time and she wouldn't take it.  They get used to it fairly quickly though if it's fairly "nice" tasting i.e. flavored.  Dd was on it from 2 weeks until 9 months.  And it does take a few days to get into their system so I'd hang in there another few days and see how it goes.  Good luck!

[Jennifer2e]

Cassie-Grayson is on Prevacid granuals.  It is a powder you mix with a little water and give in a dropper or syringe.  He takes it well.  It smells like it would taste good.  Does Palmer take a bottle?  Just wondering if he refuses to eat from that as well.  I have a terrible time with Grayson sometimes refusing to eat from the breast because he dosen't want to work that hard.  (lazy ) Any chance that is it?  Are there other times he seems to be in pain or only at the breast?