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Constant Night Waking 6 mth old
« on: March 01, 2006, 03:34:22 am »
HELP! Our gorgeous and delightful (during the day!) 6 mth old daughter is waking constantly (up to 4 or 5 times every hour!) through the night. We had this problem back when she had a dummy, but we removed it a couple of months ago and things got so much better (she has since found her thumb). But in the past couple of weeks she has been waking more and more – last night she woke 4 or 5 times every hour - at 1am my husband took her to the spare room and slept with her.
Here’s our daily EASY routine which, within reason, we stick to;
E 7.30am (bf + 2tbls baby rice)
A 8.30am   
S 9.30am (usually 1.5 hours with about 20 mins resettling in the middle)
E 11.30am (bf + ~ 2tbls veges)
A 12.30pm
S 2pm (usually 1.5 hours with about 20 mins resettling in the middle)
E 3.30pm (bf)
A 4pm
E 6pm (bf + ~ 2tbls fruit)
Bath 6.30pm
S 7.00 / 7.30pm
Sproatic waking …
E between 12 – 1.30am (bf)
Sporatic waking ..
E 7am again
When she wakes, she cries out but is never inconsolable. We pick her up, hold her for 10 / 20 / 30 secs then put her back down again. She always goes to sleep again straight away but then wakes again anywhere between 10 / 15 / 45 / 60 mins later. At most we get 2 or 3 hours sleep in a row once a night. She has big bf around midnight which is just fine (if that’s all I had to get up for!). She likes to go to sleep on her side so often to resettle her we need to roll her from her back onto her side (is this a prop?).
She also usually needs picking up 45 to 60 mins into her sleep (naps and night) to wind / vomit (she’s a very, very vomitty baby).
She only bf’s 5 mins at most each side per feed.. could she be hungry? Should I try a formula feed at 6pm? I’m reluctant to do this as formula makes her vomit more, but if it gets us all more sleep I’ll try it.
She is so happy during the day – lots of smiles and giggles and even loves going to bed (never says boo, just puts herself to sleep) so I’m not sure what to do next so any help / suggestions would be so welcomed.
Thanks!
Jo
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Re: Constant Night Waking 6 mth old
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2006, 10:20:14 am »
How are you settling her for naps/bedtime, it sounds like (by the having to resettle each nap) that you have replaced the dummy with another prop.
Do you pat her off until she is right asleep??
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Re: Constant Night Waking 6 mth old
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2006, 18:57:44 pm »
We always put her down and re settle her on her side (she rolls onto her back during sleep) .. we started doing this when we took away the dummy so that we could shsh/pat her back. I guess this has become a prop? Should we start putting her down on her back again?
She has also started rolling and crawling (!!) so now we find she rolls onto her tummy during sleep and seems happy there?
Last night was a bit better 7.30 til 12.00 (feed) and she slept til 4am at which time she went to the spare bed with my husband (I'm knackered and just need some sleep!).
She always goes to sleep in her cot - if anything I just hold her hand or place my hand on her back but generally she doesn't even need that.
Thanks for your help - this is a great www and all you volunteers do a fabulous job!  :)
From NZ ..
Jo
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Re: Constant Night Waking 6 mth old
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2006, 19:18:51 pm »
Just a thought but does she have reflux?  Since she vomits a lot I was wondering if she might be uncomfortable with reflux and need her crib elevated?  I do not have experience with reflux with my dd but I have learned a bit about it from this site. 

Just thought I would throw that out there for whatever it's worth!  :)
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Re: Constant Night Waking 6 mth old
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2006, 19:36:22 pm »
Yup, we have the whole relfux thing going on, but her cot is still elevated and with non-invasive treatment (osteopath etc) she has become a 'happy chucker'.
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Re: Constant Night Waking 6 mth old
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2006, 01:33:03 am »
Hi,

I have a similar problem with my 7 month old.  If I am lucky I get a few hours in a row...
But what i have realized in the last little while is that i am going to her too quickly.

Is your daughter crying out for you in the night or doing more of a wimper cry? When I stopped running to every whimper she would fall back asleep on her own, sometimes us mums can be too attentive! :)

Just a thought...
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Re: Constant Night Waking 6 mth old
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2006, 01:48:16 am »
Hi .. nope, she's definitely crying out rather than doing the mantra cry when re-settling .. if we leave her for a few minutes it esculates.
Has anyone got any ideas how we can get her to re-settle herself .. we've been doing PU/PD but I'm now completely stuck as to what to do next and the last few days I've cried a lot through over tiredness and frustration .. boo!  :'(
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Re: Constant Night Waking 6 mth old
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2006, 05:31:04 am »
if the reflux isn't under control then (from experience) she will not be able to resettle herself. what type of meds is she on?? is it helping? if it is zantac (what dd is on) i know it is very weight sensitive and maybe the dosage needs to be upped?  i would make sure the reflux situation is first under control before attempting pu/pd or anything else - if dd is in pain she needs to be comforted right now. if u rule this out and the reflux is under control completely then look at options for resettling herself. what temperment is she? is she on solids as of yet??
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Re: Constant Night Waking 6 mth old
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2006, 07:45:14 am »
.. the 'reflux' (in inverted commas 'cos I'm not convinced it is actually reflux - read on!) is under control .. she was on Zantac from 4 'til about 10 weeks at which point we hit rock bottom .. for about 4 days she wouldn't feed or sleep and cried and cried .. we stopped Zantac and within 24 hrs she was 100% better and starting to feed again. Since then we have been 'drug free' and seeing and osteopath and homeopath for less invasive relief for her. She doesn't have any reflux symptoms (ie uncomfortable lying flat) except the vomiting.
She is a text book baby and trucking back 3 decent (~ 2 tbls / meal) solid meals a day!
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Re: Constant Night Waking 6 mth old
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2006, 15:22:07 pm »
if she doesn't seem like she is in any kind of pain (teething, sickness, bad gas, etc) i think it is time to sleep train! as far as the paci goes if it indeed has become a prop here is a link to help take the association of falling back to sleep and needing the paci to do it:

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=52857.0

from what it looks like u don't do a df?  i usually wouldn't think u should start a df this late in the game but for a temporary fix it may help at least start to control the times he wakes. i would try it for a week and see what happens. after that if it is working keep with it for awhile, if it's not, just drop it altogether (at that age it was starting to cause MORE night wakings for my dd and we dropped it cold turkey).  as far as the other night wakings here is another link that also helped us get a good night's sleep again, and i started at about 6 months myself.

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=46907.0

just another thought - i know i was very guilty of this a few months back as i didn't like hearing my lo cry for more than a few seconds! what i had to come to terms with is that babies cry, they are supposed to cry it is how they communicate, get themselves back to sleep, etc. so when she would start crying after being put to bed i would leave her crying (not freaking out mind you) for a few minutes, and lo and behold more times than not by the time i got to her bedroom door, the crying stopped!!  i started lengthening the amount of time by a minute or so here and there and now most of the time i realize (as she was probably able to do this before... ::)) she can put herself back to sleep.  in this time i successfully implemented pu/pd which was difficult but successful and totally another story in itself. good luck with the info - let me know if u need anything and how things are going!
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Re: Constant Night Waking 6 mth old
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2006, 16:19:17 pm »
I'm having almost identical problems with my five month old daughter!  She also spits up a lot, but Zantac wasn't good for us.  We gave up the binkie because she started waking every time it fell out of her mouth & we could see that it was becoming a prop.  Our daily routine is also very similar to yours, although my daughter still takes a third nap.

When my daughter wakes in the middle of the night, her crying escalates, too.  We've been doing shh/pat because the PU/PD technique seems to agitate her quite a lot (she's Spirited).  We've been doing this for a couple of weeks now and her night wakings are becoming later and later.  She has a DF at about 11:00.  Then she usually sleeps until about 4 AM.  From 4 AM until about 6:20 she fusses and dozes, while I shh/pat (and lie on the floor of her room).  She almost always dozes by 6:30 and I have to wake her at 7 AM to begin our day.  My hope is that, this 4 AM waking will become later and later as she learns to soothe herself back to sleep during the night.

I think it was Teezee who posted that "babies cry, they are supposed to."  In accepting that, I've noticed that my daughter seems to simply need a little "cry time" before going to sleep.  Nothing is wrong and she isn't really upset.  Of course, I have trouble hearing her cry, so I lie on the floor by her crib and shh/pat if the crying doesn't begin to wind down eventually.  I think she is learning how to settle herself.  This has been EXHAUSTING, but I think she is sleeping longer and longer at night and will, hopefully, sleep until 7 AM someday!

Good luck with your little one!  And let me know if you find a way to get your daughter to sleep through the night!
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